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#61 AnBr

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 09:41 AM

View PostTraveler, on 08 January 2019 - 08:30 AM, said:

The comments are frightening though.

I wonder how many are Russian bots and how many are simply Russian tools.
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Posted 08 January 2019 - 10:08 AM

Apparently, a lot of the comments were dated before the byline hour. How that can happen is beyond me, but their commonality sure suggests a bot attack. I cannot think Vermonters are that silly. Wish Charles were here.
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Posted 08 January 2019 - 10:12 AM

View PostPractical Girl, on 23 December 2018 - 11:00 AM, said:

Action or Distraction?. This email tells its own truth. Here's the thing: I was hoping Beto was going to run for Governor. Now I believe Julian Castro just might end up doing it. Beto? Go big or go home. Tell me when you read it- who can't see a national platform, forming? Is he the best- this time, this place? Nobody thought a thing about Obama, either.

I know it takes more than fancy prose to make a President. But at the very least- thank you, Beto.e no longer have faith in them, if there’s no way to count on government even functioning (three shutdowns this year alone), then perhaps ultimately we become open to something else. Whatever we choose to call it, whether we openly acknowledge it at all, my fear is that we will choose certainty, strength and predictability over this constant dysfunction, even if it comes at the price of our democracy (the press; the ballot box; the courts; congress and representative government).----

-----It’s action vs. distraction. One will save our democracy, the other will lead to its end.

- Beto"

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 11:39 AM

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (R-NY) is in. Here's a list from Time of the 6 announced candidates that looks like it will be kept up to date. I really have no idea who Tulsi Gabbard, John Delaney, or Richard Ojeda are but I'm afraid that allowing non-Democrat Sanders's to meddle in Democratic affairs is going to allow them to cause serious confusion and trouble. It was always going to be a clusterf*** but Bernie's ego is going to make it worse.
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Posted 22 January 2019 - 02:22 PM

Kamala Harris is all the way in.

As mentioned elsewhere on TRS some right-wing, anti-reality Trumpian scumbag is already attacking her as not being eligible.

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Jacob Wohl, the right-wing troll and Trump acolyte, is apparently done licking his wounds after his embarrassing attempt to smear Special Counsel Robert Mueller failed spectacularly.

In a tactic echoing that of his role model Donald Trump, Wohl is floating a bogus birther theory about newly announced presidential candidate Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA).

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Kamala Harris is NOT eligible to be President. Her father arrived from Jamaica in 1961—mother from India arrived in 1960

Neither parent was a legal resident for 5 years prior to Harris’s birth, a requirement for naturalization

Kamala was raised in Canada

Harris was born in Oakland, California and is thus granted American citizenship by the birthright clause in the 14th Amendment, no matter her parents’ status. This interpretation of the Constitution has been the law of the land since a Supreme Court decision in the 1890s.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 04:59 PM

There may be little room in the party for very conservative Democrats. I actually don't have much of a problem with this since the Overton Window has shifted sooooo far to the right over the years. A little adjustment back is likely in order. Attempts at huge adjustments, like Sanders's trashing of Clinton despite agreeing with her on over 95% of positions, are unacceptable and counter-productive. Beware the True Believer ™.

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The woman who nearly defeated one of Congress’s most conservative Democrats last year is moving towards a likely rematch, she told TPM on Tuesday.

Businesswoman and activist Marie Newman came just over 2,000 votes short of defeating Rep. Dan Lipinski (D-IL) in a 2018 primary that pitted a number of national progressive groups against Lipinksi’s union allies and Chicago’s Democratic machine.

Newman is now gearing up for another shot at the congressman, and plans to make a final decision on a run sometime in the early spring.

“We’re going through a formal exploratory process and meeting with constituents throughout the district. I’m looking at a time frame that’s looking like two to three months,” she told TPM. “Personally, my family and I are ready to go. On a political and constituency level, I want to make sure we’re still in alignment. I believe we are.”

That would set up a rematch after a heated primary last cycle left some bad blood in both Illinois and national Democratic circles. Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) and then-Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) both endorsed Newman over Lipinski, an almost unheard-of move for members of a congressional delegation. Some of Lipinski’s allies in the fiscally conservative Blue Dog Democratic coalition were furious that the House Democrats’ campaign arm, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, didn’t endorse Lipinski until just before the primary.

Lipinski is one of the most conservative Democrats in Congress, and holds a safe Democratic seat based in Chicago’s South Side and its southwest suburbs that Hillary Clinton carried by 15 percentage points in 2016. The district was intentionally drawn by his allies to include as many culturally conservative lunchpail Democrats as possible, but after nearly a decade, it’s grown increasingly diverse and the party base has moved left. Many Democratic base voters don’t see eye-to-eye with Lipinski on certain issues.

The congressman has long been a staunch opponent of abortion, co-chairing the Congressional Pro-Life Caucus and voting repeatedly to defund Planned Parenthood. Last Friday, he was the lone Democratic member of Congress to speak at the March for Life rally in Washington, D.C.

That was a change: Lipinski backed out from speaking at the national rally last year, during the heat of the primary fight.

Newman told TPM that his decision to return to the national March for Life, after skipping the D.C. event last year, showed a lack of backbone.

“In a non-election year he feels free to speak at the March for Life and hold dear to what he believes, and in an election year he all of a sudden doesn’t believe in those beliefs. Which is it?” she said.

Lipinski, who has served for more than a decade since he took the seat from his father, ranked as the seventh-most conservative Democrat in the Almanac of American Politics’ 2017 vote ratings.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 06:05 PM

Way too early to be all that meaningful but enjoy it anyway.

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A new poll by Public Policy Polling, a Democratic polling firm out of North Carolina, found that every potential Democratic candidate in the 2020 presidential election—announced and unannounced—would beat President Trump in a head-to-head contest. Former Vice President Joe Biden, who has not announced a presidential bid, came in the lead out of the Democratic hopefuls, with 53 percent of poll participants choosing him compared to 41 percent for Trump. Trump trails Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders by 12 points and California Senator Kamala Harris by 7 points. Harris officially announced her 2020 campaign on January 21, raising $1.5 million in online contributions in only 24 hours. Rounding out the pack of potential Democratic candidates was former representative Beto O’Rourke (TX), as well as senators Elizabeth Warren (MA), Cory Booker (NJ), and Kirsten Gillibrand (NY).


Sounds like there's more than a few "anybody but Trump" voters out there, and not just diehard Dems.
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Posted 22 January 2019 - 08:46 PM

View PostLFC, on 22 January 2019 - 02:22 PM, said:

Harris was born in Oakland, California and is thus granted American citizenship by the birthright clause in the 14th Amendment, no matter her parents’ status. This interpretation of the Constitution has been the law of the land since a Supreme Court decision in the 1890s.

The Supreme Court giveth and the Supreme Court taketh away, and what better thing or time to take away than a Democratic Presidential candidate?
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Posted 22 January 2019 - 10:24 PM

View PostLFC, on 22 January 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

A little adjustment back is likely in order. Attempts at huge adjustments, like Sanders's trashing of Clinton despite agreeing with her on over 95% of positions, are unacceptable and counter-productive. Beware the True Believer ™.

Or Gabbard. https://www.politico...hutdown-1116066
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Posted 23 January 2019 - 12:14 PM

Pete who? Sounds like this guy keeps shooting for the moon without first figuring out how to get into orbit.

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Democrat Pete Buttigieg, the 37-year-old mayor of South Bend, Indiana, is forming an exploratory committee for a 2020 presidential bid, according to a video and email announcement obtained by The Associated Press.

“The reality is there’s no going back, and there’s no such thing as ‘again’ in the real world. We can’t look for greatness in the past,” Buttigieg says in a video that includes before-and-after footage of South Bend, a Rust Belt city once described as “dying.”

“Right now our country needs a fresh start,” he says.

Buttigieg has touted his work to improve his city of 100,000 residents as he’s prepared for an improbable jump from local politics to a presidential campaign. He’s also said Democrats could benefit from a new generation of leaders as they try to unseat President Donald Trump in 2020.

He’s expected to travel to Iowa next week to meet with voters in the nation’s first caucus state, followed by stops in New Hampshire.

Buttigieg is a Rhodes scholar who was first elected mayor of his hometown in 2011 at age 29 — making him the youngest mayor of a U.S. city with at least 100,000 residents. A lieutenant in the Navy Reserve, he served a tour in Afghanistan in 2014.

Buttigieg raised his national profile with an unsuccessful 2017 run for Democratic National Committee chairman, saying the party needed a new start. He withdrew from the race before a vote when it became clear he didn’t have the support to win.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 02:48 PM

View PostLFC, on 23 January 2019 - 12:14 PM, said:

Pete who? Sounds like this guy keeps shooting for the moon without first figuring out how to get into orbit.

I imagine this is a real smart guy, but as we have seen the presidency is not for amateurs. While this mayor isn't a total amateur, the leap from small-medium sized city to US President is too considerable for a beginner to handle.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 03:33 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 23 January 2019 - 02:48 PM, said:

I imagine this is a real smart guy, but as we have seen the presidency is not for amateurs. While this mayor isn't a total amateur, the leap from small-medium sized city to US President is too considerable for a beginner to handle.

He needs to have real executive experience ... like Sarah Palin. [LFC ducks flying coffee cup]
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Posted 24 January 2019 - 06:20 PM

View PostLFC, on 23 January 2019 - 03:33 PM, said:

He needs to have real executive experience ... like Sarah Palin. [LFC ducks flying coffee cup]
Well, to be fair, she did have 2 years experience as the Governator of a low population state that is heavily dependent on federal tax dollars. You betcha, she's qualified. And she has already been looking out for Putin for years, since he's just across the Bering Straits there. But since the GOP all loves them Ruskies now, we don't have to build a wall there to keep 'em out.
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Posted 24 January 2019 - 06:30 PM

View Postpnwguy, on 24 January 2019 - 06:20 PM, said:

Well, to be fair, she did have 2 years experience as the Governator of a low population state that is heavily dependent on federal tax dollars.

I always find it interesting when people mistake "experience" for "years." She was a f***-up for 2 years. That's not experience, that's being a f***-up. Ditto for a wide array of CEOs with "experience."
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Posted 25 January 2019 - 07:59 AM

Politico has an interesting analysis re Flori-DUH. A long read, but worth it:

https://www.politico...1125442?cid=apn

This jumped out at me—perhaps because it’s in my TV viewing area—as something the analysts hadn’t considered much up until 2016. This community is HUGE, and occupies space in two other counties besides Sumter. Think about all those (overwhelmingly white) retirees of the auto industry and the like and you begin to get the picture. There looks to be a continuing inward migration of this demographic for the foreseeable future.

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To highlight just how important the white vote was in keeping the state in Republican hands in 2018, the University of Florida’s Dan Smith pointed out that turnout hit presidential levels in some Republican counties. Overall, turnout was 62.6 percent in this midterm statewide. But in Sumter County, home to the mammoth Villages retirement community, turnout was at 80 percent for white Republican males, Smith said.

The steady influx of conservative retirees to the Villages and elsewhere helped offset the natural growth of Florida’s Hispanic population, especially with Puerto Ricans who moved to Florida before and after Hurricane Maria. Except for Republican-leaning Cuban-Americans, Hispanics tend to disproportionately back Democratic candidates.

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:38 AM

The former CEO of Starbucks is talking about running as a spoiler. That's just ... great. Another big ego who wants to be President right out of the gate and who doesn't really care about the damage that he might do ... just like Ralph Nader and Russian agent/stooge Jill Stein.

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Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz said in a “60 Minutes” interview—to be aired Sunday—that he is seriously considering a presidential bid as an independent, according to a Saturday Atlantic report.

Democrats and never-Trumpers alike fear that all an independent candidate would do is siphon off votes from the ultimate Democratic candidate, throwing the election to President Donald Trump by default.

Schultz is a lifelong Democrat, but believes that moving away from increasingly polarized parties would unify the American people.


Julian Castro has to explain the obvious.

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“I have a concern that if he did run that, essentially, it would provide Donald Trump with his best hope of getting re-elected,” Castro told CNN’s Jake Tapper in an interview. “Just the other day, there was a fairly comprehensive poll taken that showed, essentially, right now, that the President has a ceiling of about 41 or 42 percent, in terms of support for him, no matter which Democratic candidate they polled against him.”

“So his only hope, if things stayed the same — and that’s a big if — is essentially to get somebody else, a third-party, to siphon off those votes.”


Chris Coons explains that Schultz is much like Trump, i.e. unqualified for the office of President.

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Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE) expressed concern Monday morning that former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz getting into the 2020 race could mean lost votes for the Democrat and a candidate equaling President Donald Trump in lack of qualifications for the job.

“The real question is, is the average American interested in a repeat of Donald Trump, meaning someone with no prior experience in government and public service, but someone in this case who has a stronger record as an ethical business leader?” Coons asked CNN’s John Berman.

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:44 AM

Kamala Harris just moved herself into my "HELL NO!" column. We do not need another candidate (like Bernie Sanders) who doesn't understand how to do the maths.

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In a widely-covered and well-attended speech that focused on her “for the people” campaign slogan, Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) captioned a campaign launch event Sunday with a simple message: “America, we are better than this.”

“We are here at this moment because we must answer a fundamental question,” Harris said at one point during her speech at the event. “Who are we? Who are we as Americans? So let’s answer that question to the world and to each other right here and right now. America, we are better than this.”

Harris’ speech, from Oakland’s City Hall plaza, drew crowds that spilled over into several downtown blocks, the San Diego Union-Tribune reported. It aired live on CNN, MSNBC and Fox News.

The address was in many ways a laundry list of broad policy goals, though one populated by some ambitious progressive ideas like Medicare-for-all and universal pre-K. Harris pledged to deliver “the largest working- and middle-class tax cut in a generation.”


There is much in her speech I agreed with but seriously, yet more tax cuts? We still need to repeal both the Bush tax cuts and the Ryan/Trump tax cuts to get us in a remotely healthy state. She might as well be a Republican as she proposes crushing the country with yet more debt.
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Posted 28 January 2019 - 01:41 PM

Endorsements already? WTF?

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While many of his peers have demurred on their preferred Democratic candidate while waiting to see how the field shakes out, Rep. Ted Lieu (D-CA) is leading the pack with his endorsement of fellow California Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA).

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 02:18 PM

View PostLFC, on 28 January 2019 - 10:44 AM, said:

There is much in her speech I agreed with but seriously, yet more tax cuts? We still need to repeal both the Bush tax cuts and the Ryan/Trump tax cuts to get us in a remotely healthy state. She might as well be a Republican as she proposes crushing the country with yet more debt.

Depends on how it's arranged.
  • Start by moving some of the brackets to higher income (or doing away with discrete brackets altogether -- Ask Me How!) while raising the top rates to more than make up for it.
  • Institute a carbon tax earmarked to a per capita refundable tax credit.
  • Quote Ronald Reagan on getting rid of the preferential treatment of capital income.
  • Treat inheritance as ordinary income, with (let's be reasonable) a distribution over several years.
  • Add a wealth tax, except start lower.
  • Get rid of the stupid mortgage deduction, again tied to compensating reduction in the lower income ranges so short of the seriously wealthy it's revenue neutral at worst.
She does have a point, where the actual tax revenues are stacked too much against the slightly-less-than-desperately poor.
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Posted 28 January 2019 - 07:20 PM

Part of the problem is that she hasn't said how it's arranged. Until I see that (if ever), I'm with LFC.





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