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golden_valley's Photo golden_valley 06 October 2017 - 12:22 PM

View PostProgressive whisperer, on 06 October 2017 - 12:03 PM, said:

The museum where I volunteer is doing a presentation on witch trials. Maybe good preparation for the next generation or so.

I found this on The American Conservative of all places: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/fear-inc-russians-communist-trump-mattis/ Of course comments following the article say fear of illegal immigration and Muslims is warranted this time.
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Progressive whisperer's Photo Progressive whisperer 06 October 2017 - 01:38 PM

People panic a lot. They panicked about witches. They panicked about slave revolts. They panicked about foreigners (anyone but English originally). In the 1970's they panicked about child daycare workers performing satanic rituals with their charges (pretty much like the earlier witch panics, so much for 300 years of advancement). Last year there was a panic about clowns, and our police are in perpetual panic about POC and anyone else seen as insufficently defferential.
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pnwguy's Photo pnwguy 06 October 2017 - 02:02 PM

View PostProgressive whisperer, on 06 October 2017 - 01:38 PM, said:

People panic a lot. They panicked about witches. They panicked about slave revolts. They panicked about foreigners (anyone but English originally). In the 1970's they panicked about child daycare workers performing satanic rituals with their charges (pretty much like the earlier witch panics, so much for 300 years of advancement). Last year there was a panic about clowns, and our police are in perpetual panic about POC and anyone else seen as insufficently defferential.

And panic makes those who have few scruples get wealthier. Glenn Beck's gold advertisers, anyone?

Nothing better for any product distributor to have is a customer base that believes they need your wares out of fear. It's been going on for millennia. How about the selling of indulgences by the Catholic church?
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LFC's Photo LFC 06 October 2017 - 03:14 PM

View PostProgressive whisperer, on 06 October 2017 - 01:38 PM, said:

People panic a lot.

To repeat something I've posted several times at TRS and I saw somebody else post in just the past again few days...

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But I'm not so sure about the first part.
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pnwguy's Photo pnwguy 11 October 2017 - 05:12 PM

Guess he's not only a nutjob but a crook too:

http://www.slate.com...alary_from.html

It seems that graft and fraud have always been Christian Values. Only they think of it as manna from heaven.

He'll fit right in, as an anointed leader of the District of Trumpolia. And if the Feds come after him, Dumpster can just pardon him in advance.
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baw1064's Photo baw1064 11 October 2017 - 05:44 PM

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The Foundation for Moral Law

I guess moral law doesn't cover tax evasion...
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Traveler's Photo Traveler 11 October 2017 - 05:58 PM

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Moore’s salary could mean the charity, which was largely run by Moore and his family, violated IRS rules that prohibit using a charity for personal financial gain.

Yeah, like the IRS is going to go after him. These are very dark times.
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LFC's Photo LFC 12 October 2017 - 11:47 AM

View PostTraveler, on 11 October 2017 - 05:58 PM, said:

Yeah, like the IRS is going to go after him. These are very dark times.

In other words the establishment is trying to crush a good Christian man who isn't afraid to stand up to them. This is why we need Trump!
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pnwguy's Photo pnwguy 12 October 2017 - 02:09 PM

View PostLFC, on 12 October 2017 - 11:47 AM, said:

In other words the establishment is trying to crush a good Christian man who isn't afraid to stand up to them. This is why we need Trump!

You left out "good WHITE Christian man"....
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Progressive whisperer's Photo Progressive whisperer 12 October 2017 - 02:27 PM

View Postpnwguy, on 12 October 2017 - 02:09 PM, said:



You left out "good WHITE Christian man"....

You can always assume white. That's why Dump won, "white" wasn't the default for everything setting anymore.
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pnwguy's Photo pnwguy 12 October 2017 - 02:34 PM

View PostProgressive whisperer, on 12 October 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

You can always assume white. That's why Dump won, "white" wasn't the default for everything setting anymore.

Which is why it now has to be more explicit. You just have to use coded language.
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LFC's Photo LFC 13 October 2017 - 03:18 PM

Roy Moore is one of Alabama's leading figures who worked to keep racism enshrined in their state constitution.

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In 2004, a bipartisan coalition of Alabama leaders moved to eliminate sections of the state constitution mandating school segregation and poll taxes. They assumed it’d be an easy feat — until Roy Moore got involved.

Democrats and Republicans led by then-Gov. Bob Riley ® worked together on an amendment to remove language in the state constitution mandating “separate schools for white and colored children” and allowing poll taxes, Jim Crow-era requirements that people to pay to vote that disenfranchised most black people.

The changes were purely symbolic — all of the state constitutional language had already been struck down by state and federal courts — but civil rights and business leaders saw it as a way to heal old wounds and make the state more attractive to big business.

The opposite happened instead, and Moore’s fierce opposition likely made the difference.

“He had a huge impact. It was a measure that was set to pass without much opposition and then because he got involved it changed the dynamic completely,” said Susan Kennedy of the Alabama Education Association, the state public teachers’ lobby that supported the amendment.

At the time, Moore, who is currently the GOP nominee and the front-runner to become Alabama’s next U.S. senator, had recently been booted from the state supreme court for defying higher court orders to remove a Ten Commandments statue from in front of his courthouse. That fight had made him a superstar in the religious right both in the state and nationally.

When conservative evangelical activists including the Alabama Christian Coalition began warning about adverse effects of the segregation amendment he stepped up to be the amendment’s most prominent foe — a move that kept his name in the headlines as he geared up for a 2006 primary challenge against Riley and sent the amendment down to a narrow defeat.

“This amendment is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and the people of Alabama should be aware of it,” Moore told the Birmingham News in 2004, warning it would “open the door to an enormous tax increase” — one of many broadsides he issued.

His argument worked. The statewide measure failed by about 2,000 votes, out of 1.4 million cast. Every subsequent attempt to remove the language since that initial failure has failed, most recently in 2012.


He's also very "Christian". Just ask him.

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pnwguy's Photo pnwguy 18 October 2017 - 04:55 PM

Just can't wait until the new Supreme Judge of the Senate will impose law and order on those SOB ni**ers.

https://www.cbsnews....national-anthem
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LFC's Photo LFC 19 October 2017 - 08:56 AM

View Postpnwguy, on 18 October 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

Just can't wait until the new Supreme Judge of the Senate will impose law and order on those SOB ni**ers.

Elected Chief Justice. Likely to be elected Senator. And all by people who will gladly tell you how much they LOVE the Constitution.
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Progressive whisperer's Photo Progressive whisperer 19 October 2017 - 09:00 AM

View PostLFC, on 19 October 2017 - 08:56 AM, said:



Elected Chief Justice. Likely to be elected Senator. And all by people who will gladly tell you how much they LOVE the Constitution.

Sure, but they love some combo of the Constitution in their heads and the CSA constitution, not the real one we assume we operate under.
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LFC's Photo LFC 19 October 2017 - 09:38 AM

View PostProgressive whisperer, on 19 October 2017 - 09:00 AM, said:

Sure, but they love some combo of the Constitution in their heads and the CSA constitution, not the real one we assume we operate under.

And you forgot the Bible because Jesus wrote the Constitution. We have proof!

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MSheridan's Photo MSheridan 19 October 2017 - 10:44 AM

View PostProgressive whisperer, on 19 October 2017 - 09:00 AM, said:



Sure, but they love some combo of the Constitution in their heads and the CSA constitution, not the real one we assume we operate under.

The CSA Constitution was mostly identical to the US Constitution, something I point out occasionally to people who claim that the South rebelled in the same way the Founding Fathers did. The biggest differences were in the explicit references to and protections of the institution of slavery.
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D. C. Sessions's Photo D. C. Sessions 20 October 2017 - 07:06 AM

View PostLFC, on 19 October 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

And you forgot the Bible because Jesus Cthulhu wrote the Constitution. We have proof!
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LFC's Photo LFC 24 October 2017 - 10:28 AM

Roy Moore is a Christianist in every sense; anti-gay, racist, and places his religion above the Constitution even when he swore a holy oath to uphold that Constitution. All we need is to see if he has expressed opinions on man's dominion over women and he'll have ticked all the boxes.

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Alabama GOP Senate nominee Roy Moore said late last year that the Supreme Court’s decision legalizing gay marriage was “even worse” than the notorious 1857 Dred Scott ruling that upheld slavery.

Moore, a hard-right former Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice, has twice been removed from office for refusing to follow the rule of law — the second time for ordering probate judges in his state to disobey the U.S. Supreme Court’s Obergefell ruling legalizing gay marriage. Last November he said that decision was even worse than one that scholars widely consider the worst Supreme Court decision in U.S. history.

“In 1857 the United States Supreme Court did rule that black people were property. Of course that contradicted the Constitution, and it took a civil war to overturn it. But this ruling in Obergefell is even worse in a sense because it forces not only people to recognize marriage other than the institution ordained of God and recognized by nearly every state in the union, it says that you now must do away with the definition of marriage and make it between two persons of the same gender or leading on, as one of the dissenting justices said, to polygamy, to multi-partner marriages,” Moore said in a podcast interview last November, shortly after he was suspended without pay from the court.

“We’ve got to go back and recognize that what they did in Obergefell was not only to take and create a right that does not exist under the Constitution but then to mandate that that right compels Christians to give up their religious freedom and liberty,” he continued.

Once again the inability to discriminate freely against those you hate is religious persecution. If you're a Christian then your rights (and even non-rights) always count more.


It should be pointed out that he's not the only Christianist to weigh in on this case to bash gays but he went the farthest.

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Moore wasn’t the only one on the religious right who compared Obergefell to Dred Scott. It became a talking point from Christian conservatives like Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum two years ago. But Moore clearly went a step further by saying the decision was worse, not just listing it as another decision from the court he thought was terrible.
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AnBr's Photo AnBr 31 October 2017 - 09:18 PM

Roy Moore Was A Complete Joke In Law School, Too

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“He was Looney Tunes from the beginning….” So says Crawford Melton, an Alabama attorney who went to law school with Alabama senatorial candidate Roy Moore. That’s a ringing endorsement! Moore, the judge twice removed from the bench for his inability to see an established ethical code he can’t breach, is likely to win that Senate seat soon.

In the New Yorker, Charles Bethea has a fantastic oral history of Roy Moore’s years at the University of Alabama School of Law, speaking to multiple classmates and professors about Moore. The big takeaway? Not a single person Bethea spoke to — including the Republicans — are voting for Moore.

But of all the universally embarrassing stories Bethea collects — phrases like “doofus” get used — the best is the merciless treatment Moore received from his criminal law professor:

Early in the class, McGee called on one of Wilson’s classmates, a United States Military Academy graduate named Roy Moore. “And, for the entire hour, McGee kept him standing and talking, standing and talking,” Wilson told me recently. “Finally, at the end of the hour, McGee said to him, ‘Mr. Moore, I have been teaching in this school for thirty years, and in all of that time you’re the most mixed-up person I’ve ever taught. I’m going to call you Fruit Salad.”

If you’re hoping this nickname stuck and dogged Moore for the rest of his life, well, you’re in luck!
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