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George Rowell

Member Since 13 July 2018 - 07:48 AM
Online Last Active Mar 23 2019 11:34 PM
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In Topic: Could the 737 and 777 crashes have be caused by reprogramming from the ground?

23 March 2019 - 07:51 PM

View Postbaw1064, on 23 March 2019 - 05:39 PM, said:

I remember that scene, but it wasn't an Indiana Jones movie (not unless they outfitted the Pinto for time travel a la the DeLorean!). It was from an 80's comedy movie, either Stripes with Bill Murray or one whose title I forget with Goldie Hawn. A cheesy but clever bit of topical humor, that!
As you say it was NOT in Indian Jones. Here it is. https://www.youtube....h?v=-9GGDOUDLhc

It was from 'Top Secret' with Val Kilmer and it was a German armored truck vs a Pinto. Still hilarious.

In Topic: Could the 737 and 777 crashes have be caused by reprogramming from the ground?

23 March 2019 - 12:32 AM

View PostLFC, on 22 March 2019 - 11:48 AM, said:

Same with GM pickups that had dual side fuel tanks. I suspect that this is a common corporate discussion in those companies that have the potential of serious liability issues. It's why regulatory fines need to be so much higher. If a company's downside of putting customers in danger is breaking even then you have to expect that they'll go for it. If it's serious loss and potential collapse of the company the risk/reward calculation changes significantly. If higher ups are facing jail time then even more so.
I think the 737 MAX saga may make Boeing management appreciate the (financial) value of an independent review. The more I think about how it went so wrong the more puzzled I get.

In Topic: Could the 737 and 777 crashes have be caused by reprogramming from the ground?

23 March 2019 - 12:27 AM

View Postgolden_valley, on 22 March 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

Remember the Ford Pinto in the 1970s? The position of the gas tank led to rupture when the car was hit from the rear at 20 or more mph. Ford knew it from their own testing but did not modify the design. Subsequent lawsuits revealed internal memos suggesting that a redesign and retooling was more expensive than the cost of anticipated litigation arising when people were injured by gas tank ruptures.
I remember a German tank being destroyed by a Ford Pinto in an Indiana Jones film and the horror on their faces when they thought it might touch the Pinto. On a more sinister note I also remember a BBC documentary in the 70's about an unusual number of people making claims against Ford dying under strange circumstances. The Beeb implying that some mafia shareholders had a lot to lose. Sorry no source just my memory!
Before the mid 80's there were few satellites and the Beeb were not so worried about treading on the odd finger or two, that certainly is not the case today.

In Topic: Could the 737 and 777 crashes have be caused by reprogramming from the ground?

22 March 2019 - 12:15 AM

Sorry, Safety costs extra! But the good news is an AOA disagreement light will now be free.

This is hard to believe. https://news.yahoo.c...-205335907.html

In Topic: Could the 737 and 777 crashes have be caused by reprogramming from the ground?

21 March 2019 - 11:33 PM

View PostLFC, on 21 March 2019 - 11:31 AM, said:

Looks like a case of self-regulation -- competitive
The MCAS system software as it stands would fail any meaningful test. I really believe it is 'proof of concept' software and somehow, horribly, it got approved. I simply cannot believe that it was rushed through or passed for economic reasons. I find that inconceivable. I think it is an organisational cock-up, incredible as that may seem. That is exactly why we need independent oversight and regulation.