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Posted 22 March 2019 - 09:16 AM

I think it would be helpful if somebody would define "criminal records", as "just" 65.3% dwarfs the "staggering" number of 36.5%.

I understand that Trumpublicans are emboldened these days to say whatever pops out of their lying pea brains. But those numbers- unless defined- will only cause more damage in the public eye.
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Posted 22 March 2019 - 09:24 AM

View Postpnwguy, on 07 March 2019 - 12:42 PM, said:

The Magical Trump Wall will also cure cancer, prevent hair loss, and bring about World Peace

You forgot to mention the most important thing: it cures electile dysfunction.
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Posted 22 March 2019 - 10:45 AM

This isn't law enforcement, it's a national sickness. Once again the rotten fruit of Republican policy generates cruelty just for the sake of being cruel. The ability of average Republicans to overlook (or worse justify) this kind of behavior is sick, twisted, and indecent. We now know beyond any shadow of a doubt that their answer to the question "Have you no shame?" is "No, I have absolutely none."

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The Trump administration has sought to expand the government’s role in fostering religious freedom both at home and abroad, but within its own immigrant detention centers migrants of faith have seen their own religious freedoms curtailed.

Religious detainees have had their religious texts and items confiscated, been forced to eat forbidden foods, and have even watched as U.S. immigration agents threw their holy objects into the garbage in front of them, according to a letter of complaint sent to government watchdogs by the American Civil Liberties Union this week.

The complaint calls for the Department of Homeland Security to launch a formal investigation into the allegations against U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), which an ACLU attorney called part of “a systemic denial of detained immigrants’ religious-freedom rights.”

“Many immigrants seeking asylum have fled religious persecution in their own countries, only to face the appalling irony that ICE and BP are locking them up and violating those rights,” Heather Weaver, a senior staff attorney with the ACLU’s Program on Freedom of Religion and Belief, told The Daily Beast. “This administration purports to champion religious liberty, but its treatment of detained immigrants reveals the truth—Trump only wants religious liberty for some.”

That an administration with such a conspicuous fixation on religious liberty would deny it the most vulnerable people in its custody, Weaver said, “is unconscionable.”

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 01:14 PM

Donny's own Abu Ghraib. What is with these people?
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Posted 22 March 2019 - 01:28 PM

The Atlantic had an article called Cruelty is the Point in October.

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We can hear the spectacle of cruel laughter throughout the Trump era. There were the border-patrol agents cracking up at the crying immigrant childrenseparated from their families, and the Trump adviser who delighted white supremacists when he mocked a child with Down syndrome who was separated from her mother. There were the police who laughed uproariously when the president encouraged them to abuse suspects, and the Fox News hosts mocking a survivor of the Pulse Nightclub massacre (and in the process inundating him with threats), the survivors of sexual assault protesting to Senator Jeff Flake, the women who said the president had sexually assaulted them, and the teen survivors of the Parkland school shooting. There was the president mocking Puerto Rican accents shortly after thousands were killed and tens of thousands displaced by Hurricane Maria, the black athletes protesting unjustified killings by the police, the women of the #MeToomovement who have come forward with stories of sexual abuse, and the disabled reporter whose crime was reporting on Trump truthfully. It is not just that the perpetrators of this cruelty enjoy it; it is that they enjoy it with one another. Their shared laughter at the suffering of others is an adhesive that binds them to one another, and to Trump.


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Posted 02 April 2019 - 09:46 AM

The administration is desperately trying to figure out how to head off the Child in Chief's massive threatened Trump Tantrum of closing the entire southern border. I wonder if Putin called him up and made that suggestion.

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Trump administration officials are reportedly in a state of “panic,” in Politico’s words, over how to keep President Trump from closing down the southern border as he has threatened to do via Twitter.

Several administration officials who spoke to Politico described the White House as “freaked out” over the harm a border shutdown could cause. Panic is so high that officials are even considering working with Congress on the issue: they’re scrambling to put together some type of legislative fix that would “tighten immigration laws,” Politico reported.

Trump threatened on Twitter last week he’d close the southern border (or portions of it) if Mexico didn’t figure out a way to halt “illegal immigration immediately.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 04 April 2019 - 02:34 PM

Border security is becoming more 'Murican!

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U.S. Customs and Border Patrol’s liberal use of high-speed chases has led to a high rate of injury and death, a ProPublica and Los Angeles Times investigation found. The agency gives its agents wide latitude to use high-speed chases to catch people trying to enter the country illegally, a practice that has resulted in 250 people injured and 22 deaths in the last four years alone. Many modern police departments have moved away from the dangerous strategy, but CPB still allows agents to initiate chases even after they have noted the cars are carrying unrestrained children or are packed far beyond capacity. During pursuit, agents box in moving vehicles, puncture tires and employ tactics intended to spin cars off the road, according to the report. On average, chases end in crashes every nine days. Since Trump became president, the number of people injured in pursuit crashes has increased by 42 percent.

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Posted 07 April 2019 - 12:06 PM

Just like healthcare the Trumpies want to punt on cleaning up the mess that they made by ripping children away from their mothers.

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The Trump administration wants up to two years to find potentially thousands of children who were separated from their families at the border before a judge halted the practice last year, a task that it says is more laborious than previous efforts because the children are no longer in government custody.

The Justice Department said in a court filing late Friday that it will take at least a year to review about 47,000 cases of unaccompanied children taken into government custody between July 1, 2017 and June 25, 2018 — the day before U.S. District Judge Dana Sabraw halted the general practice of splitting families. The administration would begin by sifting through names for traits most likely to signal separation — for example, children under 5.

The administration would provide information on separated families on a rolling basis to the American Civil Liberties Union, which sued to reunite families and criticized the proposed timeline on Saturday.

“We strongly oppose a plan that could take up to two years to locate these families,” said Lee Gelernt, the ACLU’s lead attorney. “The government needs to make this a priority.”

Sabraw ordered last year that more than 2,700 children in government care on June 26, 2018 be reunited with their families, which has largely been accomplished. Then, in January, the U.S. Health and Human Services Department’s internal watchdog reported that thousands more children may have been separated since the summer of 2017. The department’s inspector general said the precise number was unknown.

The judge ruled last month that he could hold the government accountable for families that were separated before his June order and asked the government submit a proposal for the next steps. A hearing is scheduled April 16.

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Posted 07 April 2019 - 12:56 PM

Our criminal president continues to block Congress from its constitutional oversight duties.

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Three Democratic congresswoman were planning to visit a shelter for migrant children in Homestead, Florida, on Monday—but the Trump administration won’t let them in. The Department of Health and Human Services told the Miami Herald that Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Donna Shalala, and Debbie Mucarsel-Powell did not give the two week’s notice required under a 2015 policy. But the lawmakers said the HHS denial violated a newly amended law that says members of Congress must be given access to facilities housing unaccompanied migrant children. The congresswomen say they decided to visit in the wake of news that the government plans to expand the facility, which they described as “cramped” and “prison-like” during an earlier visit.

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 10:08 AM

Tracking Migrant Girls' Periods to Stop Them From Getting Abortions

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We still don’t know where 1,488 migrant children are. The U.S. government lost them. They admit as much. Even though the court ordered a halt to the policy of family separation, 245 more children have been taken from their parents. So they can’t figure out where children separated from their parents are, but by God, they can keep track of teenage migrant girls' menstrual cycles.

There are 28 pages detailing the periods, pregnancies and reason for the pregnancy (whether by rape or not) of teen girls in custody, some of whom are as young as 12. There may well be reasons for the government to track whether or not a woman is pregnant, and how far along in her pregnancy she is, but there’s no reason to track the cause of her pregnancy. It’s pretty fair to assume that they’re not doing this because they want to ensure women know all the options regarding their pregnancy. It’s almost certainly an attempt to bar them from getting abortions.

We know that, because the tracking was done by the anti-abortion advocate Scott Lloyd, the head of refugee resettlement at the height of the children separation (he has since been removed from that post). Lloyd declared he needed to sign off on all abortion requests (this was previously not the case) and in one instance, attempted to use a migrant girl as a way to test an “abortion reversal” method.

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And now, here we are again, with pregnant women being tracked to ensure they’ll give birth to babies that a 13-year-old mother may not find themselves equipped to raise. We have plenty of reason to suspect where the babies will end up.

If the government can compel marginalized women to have children to give to the government’s preferred people, then you don’t need to make jokes about how America is turning into The Handmaid’s Tale anymore. We’re already there. We just don’t have the bonnets.

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 04:59 PM

Our lawless president explicitly told border patrol agents to break the law. An illegal presidential order given to government workers. There was a time when this would be a controversy. The Republican base now looks at this as a president being "strong." The sickness and rot in the right continues to drag our nation down.

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There’s always something more going on when we have these periods of maximal chaos coming out of the White House. There’s a lot of stuff contained in this article that just dropped from CNN. But there’s a remarkable passage. When he was at the border last week Trump reportedly told agents to stop allowing migrants to come across the border. After the President left, supervisors had to tell the agents that if they followed the President’s order they’d be breaking the law.

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Last Friday, the President visited Calexico, California, where he said, “We’re full, our system’s full, our country’s full — can’t come in! Our country is full, what can you do? We can’t handle any more, our country is full. Can’t come in, I’m sorry. It’s very simple.”

Behind the scenes, two sources told CNN, the President told border agents to not let migrants in. Tell them we don’t have the capacity, he said. If judges give you trouble, say, “Sorry, judge, I can’t do it. We don’t have the room.”

After the President left the room, agents sought further advice from their leaders, who told them they were not giving them that direction and if they did what the President said they would take on personal liability. You have to follow the law, they were told.

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 05:40 PM

Well, I guess we'll just have to be like Pakistan. They had to deal with millions of displaced afghans. Just put them in tent cities. Problem with that is that the refugees can walk out. Not that we have a Taliban issue here, but we sure have an illegal immigration issue.

So it is troubling indeed. We cannot just let them in and ship them off to relatives. That is not working. We need solutions, not hand wringing. This could a big Dem problem. Unless they can come up with alternative plan. Any thoughts here?
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Posted 08 April 2019 - 05:58 PM

View PostTraveler, on 08 April 2019 - 05:40 PM, said:

Well, I guess we'll just have to be like Pakistan. They had to deal with millions of displaced afghans. Just put them in tent cities. Problem with that is that the refugees can walk out. Not that we have a Taliban issue here, but we sure have an illegal immigration issue.

So it is troubling indeed. We cannot just let them in and ship them off to relatives. That is not working. We need solutions, not hand wringing. This could a big Dem problem. Unless they can come up with alternative plan. Any thoughts here?

The Democrats had plans before that were ignored and/or voted down because they didn't say "this country is full; no entry to anyone." I doubt any proposal now will be treated any better.

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 06:01 PM

Actually letting them in and go to relatives was working. The people were showing up for their court dates.

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 07:16 AM

Jack, I realize that. When we had much fewer to process than the masses arriving now. IIRC, only some 10% were not showing up. But 10% of that many more is too many illegal IMO. I just cannot see how we can process and assimilate so many more. Especially when the courts are not even staffed properly. But that begs the real issue which is too many refugees. I agree with Dem policies to improve conditions at home, but that doesn't sell in Peoria.

I am exhibit A for cluelessness on this issue, so feel free to correct me. But I can definitely understand how this bugs a lot of people.
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Posted 09 April 2019 - 08:55 AM

Actually Peoria probably understands the need for agricultural workers for the jobs citizens won't do. Lack of staffing in the immigration courts is deliberate by the administration. Deportation of the undocumented is not inconsistent with honoring our legal obligations for asylum applications. Contrary to Trump's assertions, this country is not "full".

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 09:54 AM

I get that. It seems like tens of thousands are marching north. So I did a little homework, and this is what I got.
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Scarcely a flood. Especially compared to historical trends. That low rate in 2018 is apparently due to short staffing by trump.

As for those granted,
Posted ImageUp to 2016, it seems that 2 in 5 are granted asylum. And they have been dropping. 2018 is a really low number. As for origin:
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So none at all from the Americas?
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Posted 09 April 2019 - 09:56 AM

View PostTraveler, on 09 April 2019 - 09:54 AM, said:

I get that. It seems like tens of thousands are marching north. So I did a little homework, and this is what I got.
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Quite a different picture from the one Trump paints.

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 09:58 AM

View Postgolden_valley, on 09 April 2019 - 09:56 AM, said:

Quite a different picture from the one Trump paints.

Reality different from tRump's tweets? You expected something else?
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Posted 09 April 2019 - 11:57 AM

Kevin McAleenan is now acting secretary of DHS. He was also the one who suggested ripping children from their mothers to Nielsen and we now know that Trump wants to return to that policy. Cruelty is the goal of the right. Sometimes it seems like the only goal.

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Kirstjen Nielsen will go down in infamy for claiming the Trump administration did not “create a policy of separating families at the border,” but the man taking her job as homeland security secretary actually implemented the policy and it was his agents who did the separating.

Kevin McAleenan was the commissioner of Customs and Border Protection until Monday, when he was named acting secretary of the Department of Homeland Security after President Trump sacked Nielsen because he reportedly thought she wasn’t tough enough on the southern border. But McAleenan has been plenty tough on the border, with his agents apprehending thousands of migrants for criminal prosecution and turning away thousands more asylum seekers.


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In April 2018, McAleenan co-authored a memo to Nielsen stating that DHS could “direct the separation of parents or legal guardians and minors held in immigration detention so that the parent or legal guardian can be prosecuted... ” The memo laid out several options for Nielsen to choose so DHS could help prosecute every unauthorized border crossing under the abandoned “zero tolerance” policy. Nielsen evidently chose the option that included widespread separation and signed her name to the memo.

Soon afterward, CBP was separating migrant parents from their children. More than 2,500 families were separated before the program was halted a year ago—and not all have been reunited.

In McAllen, Texas, CBP agents prevented parents from being reunited with their children, according to the DHS Office of Inspector General.

“CBP may have been able to avoid separating some families,” a 2018 OIG report states. “However, CBP officials later arranged to have adults transferred directly from court to ICE custody, rather than readmitting them where they might be reunited with their children. According to a senior official who was involved with this decision, CBP made this change in order to avoid doing the additional paperwork required to readmit the adults.”

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