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#261 HockeyDon

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Posted 04 July 2020 - 04:13 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 03 July 2020 - 11:02 AM, said:

Interesting thought but I believe the immediate "make money and make a political statement" was as far ahead as anybody was thinking.

Plus, now, they get to make money and a political statement by fixing up the bits that fall down.
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Posted 07 July 2020 - 11:57 AM

I wondered what kind of person would marry Stephen Miller. Turns out one as cruel and awful as him.

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Katie Miller, Vice President Mike Pence’s press secretary, casually admitted to having zero empathy for the thousands of migrant children who suffered under the Trump administration’s infamous family separation policy at the border in 2018, according to NBC News reporter Jacob Soboroff.

In his new book, titled “Separated: Inside an American Tragedy,” Soboroff recounts a jaw-dropping conversation with Miller, who was serving as deputy press secretary for the Department of Homeland Security at the time, on the administration’s policy of ripping kids from their families and holding them in squalid detention centers under the custody of cruel U.S. border officials.

“My family and colleagues told me that when I have kids, I’ll think about the separations differently, but I don’t think so,” Miller told Soboroff. “DHS sent me to the border to see the separations for myself, to try to make me more compassionate, but it didn’t work.”

“It didn’t work? I will never forget what I saw,” the reporter replied. “Seriously. Are you a white nationalist?”

“No, but I believe if you come to America, you should assimilate. Why do we need to have ‘Little Havana’?” the senior administration official asked.

Pence’s office did not respond to TPM’s request for comment.

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Posted 15 July 2020 - 07:14 AM

I know this was on another thread but here's more background on the deportation order:

Trump Administration Bows To Pressure, Rescinds Rule Stripping Foreign Students Of Visas For Taking Online Classes

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In their court filing, Harvard and MIT said the ICE rule would have caused “irreparable harm” if an order blocking it was not granted. The decision affects an estimated 1 million international students.

“We thought the original rules that were suggested were cruel [1] and misguided and didn't serve our universities, didn't serve our students and frankly didn't serve our country,” Rice University President David Leebron told CNN.


https://www.ibtimes....s-visas-3011270

[1] Big Perk for the Miller cabal

Ed comment: To steal someone else's line: This is what happpens when you get Harvard Lawyers vs whatever they have in the Trump Administration. I remember an old joke about someone who would get into arguments.

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Posted 14 August 2020 - 04:27 PM

President Biden will have to raze ICE to the ground and start over. It's so staggeringly corrupt I can't see it being redeemable in its current form. Management is at best lacking and at worst complicit. Plus it seems to have more than its share of psychopaths working in positions that allow them to abuse people. The department is f***ed up.

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Allegations include guards attacking victims in camera “blind spots” and telling them that “no one would believe” them in ICE detention centers, which imprison about 50,000 immigrants each year at a taxpayer expense of $2.7 billion.

Guards in an immigrant detention center in El Paso sexually assaulted and harassed inmates in a “pattern and practice” of abuse, according to a complaint filed by a Texas advocacy group urging the local district attorney and federal prosecutors to conduct a criminal investigation.
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The allegations, detailed in a filing first obtained by ProPublica and The Texas Tribune, maintain that guards systematically assaulted at least three people in a facility overseen by Immigration and Customs Enforcement — often in areas of the detention center not visible to security cameras. The guards told victims that no one would believe them because footage did not exist and the harassment involved officers as high-ranking as a lieutenant.

According to the complaint filed with the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Inspector General and shared with prosecutors, several guards “forcibly” kissed and touched the intimate parts of at least one woman. She faces deportation next week — meaning investigators could lose a key witness. Her attorneys have requested that immigration officials pause her deportation pending a review of the matter.

The woman said in a telephone interview that she would rather return to Mexico, even though she is in danger there. She said she worried about being targeted in the detention center for speaking up about the abuse.

“It’s going to get worse now,” she said. “I can’t handle this anymore.”

Since the complaint was filed Wednesday, two more women, including one who is currently detained in the El Paso facility and one who was previously held there, have come forward with abuse allegations. At least one other woman was deported after a guard assaulted her, detainees told lawyers.

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Posted 22 August 2020 - 05:43 PM

Now that the whole We Build the Wall scam is publicly falling apart the Trumpies are scrambling to distance themselves from a project they used to be all about. Here's the basic set of assholes which include Don Jr. and Kansas Kris Kobach.

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Steve Bannon isn’t President Trump’s only MAGA-universe tie to “We Build The Wall.”

Several other members of President Trump’s circle, including a top official in his administration as well as his own son, embraced the private border-wall gambit, before the White House’s attempts Thursday to distance the President from it.

Multiple people involved in We Build The Wall — including Bannon, a former White House advisor who also led Trump’s campaign — have been indicted by a federal grand jury for an alleged fraud and money laundering scheme. With announcement of the charges Thursday, Trump is now claiming he never liked the idea of a privately-funded project to build a wall on the Mexican border.

But the bounty of evidence showing how several of his allies cozied up to the We Build The Wall endeavor tells a different story. Here is a look at who in TrumpWorld had previously given the project a thumbs up:


And here's Perfidious Pence!

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Vice President Mike Pence on Friday morning claimed ignorance of former Trump campaign chairman Steve Bannon’s alleged money laundering scheme in the “We Build The Wall” project, which landed the former White House chief strategist a bombshell indictment by Manhattan prosecutors on fraud charges.

“I want to allow Steve Bannon to have his day in court,” Pence told Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo. “I don’t know any more about that than what I’ve read in the paper.”

“What I do know is that President Trump denounced that effort months and months ago,” he added.

Trump did claim to have no involvement in “We Build The Wall” for the first time in July (not “months and months” ago) and again on Thursday following Bannon’s arrest, but multiple people in Trump’s inner circle had rallied around the project and its founder, Brian Kolfage, who was also indicted over the scheme.

On Thursday, Trump said he hasn’t “been dealing with” his former campaign manager “at all,” invoking his typical response to news of an associate getting caught in alleged criminal activity.

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Posted 02 September 2020 - 01:21 PM

As if shearing the sheep for We Build the Wall funds wasn't classic enough it now turns out that the little bit of fence that went up was built like shit. No need to tear it down. It's going to fall on its own.

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It’s not a matter of if a privately built border fence along the shores of the Rio Grande will fail, it’s a matter of when, according to a new engineering report on the troubled project.

The report is one of two new studies set to be filed in federal court this week that found numerous deficiencies in the 3-mile border fence, built this year by North Dakota-based Fisher Sand and Gravel. The reports confirm earlier reporting from ProPublica and The Texas Tribune, which found that segments of the structure were in danger of overturning due to extensive erosion if not fixed and properly maintained. Fisher dismissed the concerns as normal post-construction issues.

Donations that paid for part of the border fence are at the heart of an indictment against members of the We Build the Wall nonprofit, which raised more than $25 million to help President Donald Trump build a border wall.

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Posted 15 September 2020 - 12:28 PM

Still think a comparison of the current Republican Party to Nazi Germany is over the top? Well forced sterilizations are bringing us a step closer. I'm not easily shocked by this administration but this is beyond nauseating.

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A whistleblower who previously worked at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility in Georgia detailed a high rate of hysterectomies and alleged medical neglect in a complaint filed to the Department of Homeland Security inspector general Monday.

Dawn Wooten, a licensed practical nurse employed by the center who's represented by the Government Accountability Project and Project South, stated in a complaint that while some women may have required a hysterectomy, "everybody's uterus cannot be that bad."

The Government Accountability Project provides representation for whistleblowers and Project South is a social justice organization. The complaint is also signed by several immigrant advocacy organizations: Georgia Detention Watch, Georgia Latino Alliance for Human Rights and South Georgia Immigrant Support Network.

"Everybody he sees has a hysterectomy—just about everybody. He's even taken out the wrong ovary on a young lady [detained immigrant woman]. She was supposed to get her left ovary removed because it had a cyst on the left ovary; he took out the right one. She was upset. She had to go back to take out the left and she wound up with a total hysterectomy," Wooten explains in the complaint.

"She still wanted children—so she has to go back home now and tell her husband that she can't bear kids... she said she was not all the way out under anesthesia and heard him [doctor] tell the nurse that he took the wrong ovary," she continued.

The complaint doesn't disclose the name of the gynecologist or the number of women allegedly coerced into receiving the procedure, nor when it occurred. ICE said it doesn't comment on matters presented to the inspector general.

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Posted 15 September 2020 - 12:32 PM

 LFC, on 15 September 2020 - 12:28 PM, said:

Still think a comparison of the current Republican Party to Nazi Germany is over the top? Well forced sterilizations are bringing us a step closer. I'm not easily shocked by this administration but this is beyond nauseating.

Messing with peoples' body parts is just sick.

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Posted 18 September 2020 - 04:00 PM

It appears that they've just scratched the surface on how many women were actually sterilized without their permission. Godwin be damned this is f***cing Nazi Germany level stuff.

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Four additional women have come forward with claims of nonconsensual surgeries they said were performed on them while in U.S. immigration detention, the Associated Press reports. Practices said to have been carried out by physicians enlisted by Immigration and Customs Enforcement would have resulted in firings in other situations, doctors told the AP. Many of these surgeries were reportedly performed by gynecologist Mahendra Amin, who migrant women held at Georgia’s Irwin County Detention Center said they feared. Amin has told reporters that he’s only performed one or two hysterectomies in the last three years; lawyers for the women told the AP that he’s performed surgery and other gynecological treatments on at least eight women detained since 2017, and that additional women are coming forward. Accounts from the women claim Amin removed one migrant woman’s fallopian tube without her consent, coerced a different woman into a hysterectomy when doctors confirmed to AP that there were other less invasive procedures to be taken, and more. “We look forward to all of the facts coming out, and are confident that once they do, Dr. Amin will be cleared of any wrongdoing,” Amin’s attorney Scott Grubman said in a statement. “Detainees are afforded informed consent, and a medical procedure like a hysterectomy would never be performed against a detainee’s will,” said Ada Rivera, medical director of the ICE Health Service Corps that oversees health care in detention, in a statement to the AP.

Detained women have said Amin was not the only doctor who did surgeries without their OK and jeopardized their ability to have children. An internal watchdog at the Department of Homeland Security launched an investigation of the allegations this week.

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Posted 18 September 2020 - 04:45 PM

Like... meaning I agree it's Nazi stuff.... Though I also have to say that maybe this doctor guy is operating on his own; there are some sick men out and around using the medical profession to carry out their personal issues with women.

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Posted 18 September 2020 - 05:04 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 18 September 2020 - 04:45 PM, said:

Like... meaning I agree it's Nazi stuff.... Though I also have to say that maybe this doctor guy is operating on his own; there are some sick men out and around using the medical profession to carry out their personal issues with women.
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Posted 18 September 2020 - 05:19 PM

New Trump ad in Maine claims (in part) Biden wants to give Medicaid benefits to illegal immigrants. Completely ignoring the fact its already illegal.
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"I can't go out because of the virus" sounds whiny and boring. I'm going with: "I've sworn an oath of solitude until the pestilence is purged from the lands." because it sounds more valiant and heroic. As a bonus, people might think you're carrying a sword.

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Posted 29 September 2020 - 12:28 PM

More on "Build the Wall" grifter and scam artist Brian Kolfage. This guy isn't just a thief he's an absolute shit-show of a human being.

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War hero. Veterans advocate. Family man.

It was an image years in the making. Brian Kolfage had lost three limbs in an Iraq bomb blast in 2004, making him the most badly wounded airman to survive the war. He had become a motivational speaker, was the subject of sympathetic news profiles and was even a guest at former President Barack Obama’s State of the Union address in 2012.

More recently, 38-year-old Kolfage had positioned himself as a border security visionary after raising $25 million to construct privately funded fences in an effort to help President Donald Trump keep undocumented immigrants from crossing the southern border.

On social media and in the lucrative industry of online news sites dedicated to far-right politics, there’s a very different Kolfage, though. One who, over the last decade, has sharpened a strategy of retribution and retaliation against his online critics, asking his legion of followers to “expose” perceived enemies and “make (them) famous,” according to numerous interviews, hundreds of screenshots of since-deleted social media posts and court records from two defamation lawsuits to which he was a party.

Kolfage’s actions online have spawned an informal support group of individuals who have felt his wrath, including fellow veterans and progressives, as well as some of Kolfage’s former conservative allies. His social media activity has forced him to formally apologize to a perceived online critic as part of a court settlement and prompted a judge to issue a warning following his recent indictment on fraud charges.

Facebook has barred Kolfage from its platform for his online behavior, which includes creating multiple fake accounts and linking to “ad farms,” a company spokeswoman said, adding that his actions violated “our rules against spam and inauthentic behavior.”

Neither Kolfage nor his attorney responded to requests for comment. He’s previously said his social media approach is in response to negative comments that others publish about him, such as allegations of fraud.


Then we have this. Gawd this guy is pure garbage.

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Kolfage has unleashed his growing army of followers on critics and opponents of those projects, including local elected and wildlife refuge officials and a priest. Death threats followed.

The National Butterfly Center, next door to the border fence built in the Rio Grande Valley, “openly supports illegal immigration and sex trafficking of women and children,” Kolfage tweeted last year. Facebook and Twitter messages calling staffers “pigs,” “pathetic filth” and “traitors” poured in. “You will be made to pay,” one Facebook follower declared in a message.

To those who know him, Kolfage’s online attacks reflect a pattern.

“His whole identity is wrapped up in people rolling out the red carpet for him, in being this war hero,” said Lindsay Lowery, who worked for Kolfage for about a year at his Freedom Daily website in 2017. “If anyone challenges that, he gets very nasty and vindictive. Facebook is his echo chamber.” Lowery said she left after she grew frustrated with what she called “clickbait” peddled by the right-wing site.

Mary Anne Franks, a law professor at the University of Miami and an expert on the intersection of civil rights and technology, said: “One of the disturbing trends in online harassment is that when you have enough followers or you are notorious enough, you don’t actually have to do the dirty work yourself.” She added, “All you have to do is throw out some inflammatory comments about a particular person and your followers are going to do the rest.”

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Posted 07 October 2020 - 10:50 AM

Jeff Sessions is just as evil as Stephen Miller. So is Rod Rosenstein. They don't have a functional soul between them. Bold mine.

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Jeff Sessions told federal attorneys that he was not interested in their objections to separating immigrant children from their parents in detention during a 2018 call about the policy, The New York Times reports. The attorneys had told Sessions they were “deeply concerned” about the welfare of the children and about President Donald Trump’s policy of detaining and prosecuting all illegal immigrants, including children. According to a prosecutor’s notes from the call contained in a report on an investigation by the Justice Department’s inspector general, the then-attorney-general’s remarks amounted to: “We need to take away children. If care about kids, don’t bring them in. Won’t give amnesty to people with kids.” The report found that Sessions, Rod Rosenstein, and other top DOJ officials were “a driving force” behind the family separation policy. Rosentstein, the deputy attorney general at the time, said a week later that children of all ages should be prosecuted.

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Posted 07 October 2020 - 11:28 AM

View PostLFC, on 07 October 2020 - 10:50 AM, said:

Jeff Sessions is just as evil as Stephen Miller. So is Rod Rosenstein. They don't have a functional soul between them. Bold mine.

Did someone say Rod Rosenstein? Comey had him down pat.

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 05:28 PM

This is just nauseating. And f***ing "Christians" back him to the hilt.

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Parents Of 545 Children Separated At U.S.-Mexico Border Still Can't Be Found

Despite a federal judge's order that the government reunite families who had been separated at the U.S.-Mexico border under the Trump administration's "no tolerance" migration policy, the parents of 545 children still can't be found, according to a court document filed Tuesday by the U.S. Justice Department and the American Civil Liberties Union.

Thousands of families were separated under the policy before the Trump administration ended the practice in 2018. The ACLU successfully sued the government, winning a court order to reunite families. Thousands of parents and children were reunited within weeks.

But about 1,000 families who had been separated in a pilot program in 2017 were not covered by the initial court order — reunification of this group was ordered only last year. The passage of time has made finding both parents and children more difficult.

"What has happened is horrific," says Lee Gelernt, deputy director of the ACLU Immigrants' Rights Project, who has been leading the litigation. "Some of these children were just babies when they were separated. Some of these children may now have been separated for more than half their lives. Almost their whole life, they have not been with their parents."

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 05:57 PM

View PostLFC, on 21 October 2020 - 05:28 PM, said:

This is just nauseating. And f***ing "Christians" back him to the hilt.

There has been a lot of nauseating things that happened during the last 3 1/2 years. This is the worst. Separate kids from parents and don't even bother to keep records of who is who and where the parents are. Completely inhumane.

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 06:07 PM

Surprised that it is only 545. Really. Thought it would be worse when it was happening.
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Posted 21 October 2020 - 10:35 PM

View PostTraveler, on 21 October 2020 - 06:07 PM, said:

Surprised that it is only 545. Really. Thought it would be worse when it was happening.

That's after repeated threats from a judge. Took them a couple of years to clear the backlog of several thousands.





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