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Posted 10 June 2019 - 06:53 PM

View PostLFC, on 10 June 2019 - 04:50 PM, said:

It's easy. The Republican mantra is now "Attack! Attack! Attack again! Attack anything and everything you don't like."

... and you don't like anything that the Democrats touch.
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Posted 10 June 2019 - 07:34 PM

The more Trump and the Republicans scream about Dean, the more people will hear about the event of Dean's testimony. If they ignored Dean then his testimony would have been a complete non-event.

The only person whose testimony would matter in this matter is Mueller and he's unwilling to be clear; utter words to the effect "this is a roadmap for impeachment". Without it the country is not going to sit up and take notice. John Dean is background noise. He's not Ghost of Christmas past; that foretells Ghost of Christmas future and a transformation. Unfortunately, the situation is more dire and hopeless.

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View Postgolden_valley, on 10 June 2019 - 05:41 PM, said:

The goal is to delegitimize everything so that there is no trust in any governmental entity, legal process, or the media. The demagogues seek a wide open field to do and say whatever they want.

Create enough din such that people just shut their ears to maintain some sanity.

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 08:03 PM

"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." So they are attempting to get rid of it, bit by bit, and unfortunately succeeding.
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Posted 11 June 2019 - 07:07 AM

View PostRue Bella, on 10 June 2019 - 08:03 PM, said:

"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." So they are attempting to get rid of it, bit by bit, and unfortunately succeeding.

As usual, very selectively. E.g. abortion.
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Posted 11 June 2019 - 03:44 PM

Democrats brought in John Dean to discuss historical context. Republicans, as expected, flipped out, ranted, frothed, and said nothing but Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FLunky) was gently and quite easily pwned by Dean to the amusement of all. I love the comment in the article subtitle of "Florida Man Gonna Florida." There are tweets and video. Good stuff.
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Posted 11 June 2019 - 04:30 PM

House Dems just sped things up for the committees.

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The House, by a 229-191 vote, approved a resolution Tuesday that will make it easier for Democrats to bring their oversight fights with the Trump administration to court.

The resolution explicitly permits Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-NY) to seek a court’s intervention to force former White House Counsel Don McGahn to comply with a subpoena for testimony. (It includes similar language for Attorney General Bill Barr. However, Nadler is holding off of taking any legal action against Barr in light of new deal for the Justice Department to share certain evidence from special counsel Robert Mueller’s report.)

The measure additionally gives other committee chairs the power to petition a court to enforce a subpoena. By doing so, House Democrats will no longer need to hold floor votes to move forward with each and every court action they seek to enforce compliance with their subpoenas.

The move could bring an onslaught of lawsuits as Democrats grapple with an administration that has been stonewalling on nearly every oversight front since Democrats took the gavel. It also reflects a moment of unity for the Democratic caucus, which is split on the question of whether to open an impeachment inquiry into President Trump.

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 04:31 PM

It looks like contempt is on the way.

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The House Oversight Committee on Wednesday approved of a resolution recommending that Attorney General Bill Barr and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross be held in contempt for not complying with subpoenas in the committee’s census citizenship question probe.

The 24-15 vote came some six hours after the meeting to consider that measure started. Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) joined Democrats in voting in favor of the resolution.

As the committee meeting was getting underway, the Justice Department announced that President Trump had asserted executive privilege over the documents the committee was demanding.

Among the materials the committee subpoenaed are key internal documents from the period when the Trump administration was working with the Justice Department to craft a formal request to add the question to the 2020 census. The justification put forward in the request — that it would enhance DOJ Voting Rights Act enforcement — has been called pretextual by three federal courts, and there is ample evidence the administration had partisan reasons for including the question on the census.

“We know that this was a pretext,” Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings (D-MD) said at the beginning of Wednesday’s meeting.

“We have been blocked from fully determining the real reason the administration sought to add the citizenship question,” Cummings said.

Republicans on the committee dragged out the meeting with debates on a half dozen amendments, which were ultimately voted down, and with complaints that Cummings violated committee rules by not giving enough notice for the contempt vote.

They accused Democrats of seeking to influence the Supreme Court — which will ultimately decide whether the question stays on the census — as it considers its ruling in the case. They defended the administration’s move to add the question. And they claimed the administration had not been stonewalling the committee, pointing to the few officials that were made available for interviews, in addition to thousands of documents the administration has produced.

Democrats countered that many of those documents were heavily redacted or were already public, and that the witnesses had been instructed by agency attorneys not to answer several of the committee’s questions.

“This begs the question: what is being hidden?” Cummings said of Trump’s move Wednesday to assert executive privilege.

Wednesday’s contempt vote was the latest flashpoint in the war between House Democrats and President Trump over the authority of Congress to conduct oversight of his administration.

The Judiciary Committee previously recommended that Barr be held in contempt for his refusal to turn over certain materials related to special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation. However, House Democrats on Tuesday stopped short of holding him in contempt on the floor. Instead, they passed a measure that authorized the filing of lawsuits to force him and former White House counsel Don McGahn into complying with the Judiciary Committee’s subpoenas.

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Posted 02 July 2019 - 12:02 PM

Here's the next step in going after Trump's tax returns. I love the justification. It uses Trump's own words against him.

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The House Ways and Means Committee filed a lawsuit Tuesday to force the Trump administration to disclose the President’s tax returns.

The lawsuit – filed in D.C. federal court – seeks a court order that would force Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin and Internal Revenue Service chief Chuck Rettig to hand over six years of Trump’s personal and business returns.

Committee Chair Richard Neal (D-MA) is the only Democrat in Congress empowered by law to request the returns. Neal asked for them in April and then issued a subpoena for them. The Trump administration has refused to comply.

The lawsuit describes the Trump administration’s refusal as “an extraordinary attack on the authority of Congress to obtain information,” and says that it is “the first time ever” that the government has refused to comply with such a request from Congress.

Neal narrowly tailored the rationale for the initial April request, asserting that the tax returns were needed to conduct oversight of whether the IRS is impartially auditing Trump’s tax returns. He reiterates that argument in the Tuesday lawsuit, saying that Congress must investigate the matter in part because “President Trump himself has repeatedly questioned the integrity of the process by which the IRS audits his tax returns.”

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Posted 02 July 2019 - 12:51 PM

Lesson to all people in the public eye:

“President Trump himself has repeatedly questioned the integrity of the process by which the IRS audits his tax returns.”

means you shouldn't pay any attention to the IRS or tax returns if you are Donald Trump. To the rest of the world it means, better look into the practices of the IRS and where better to start than with the returns of a guy who brags about being wealthy and paying minimal taxes.

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Posted 02 July 2019 - 07:15 PM

 golden_valley, on 02 July 2019 - 12:51 PM, said:

Lesson to all people in the public eye:

“President Trump himself has repeatedly questioned the integrity of the process by which the IRS audits his tax returns.”

means you shouldn't pay any attention to the IRS or tax returns if you are Donald Trump. To the rest of the world it means, better look into the practices of the IRS and where better to start than with the returns of a guy who brags about being wealthy and paying minimal no taxes.

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Posted 08 July 2019 - 02:20 PM

NY Gov. Cuomo just threw the Dems a bone.

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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) signed a bill on Monday that would allow New York’s tax authority to hand over state tax returns to the U.S. Congress.

The bill would allow the state’s Department of Taxation and Finance commissioner to release state tax returns to Congress’ Ways & Means Committee, the Senate Finance Committee, or the Joint Committee on Taxation.

“Tax secrecy is paramount — the exception being for bonafide investigative and law enforcement purposes,” Cuomo said in a statement. “By amending the law enforcement exception in New York State tax code to include Congressional tax-related committees, this bill gives Congress the ability to fulfill its Constitutional responsibilities, strengthen our democratic system and ensure that no one is above the law.”

After Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin refused to comply with the House Ways and Means Committee’s request for President Donald Trump’s tax returns, New York’s state legislature passed the bill in an effort to mitigate Mnuchin’s stonewalling.

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Posted 08 July 2019 - 08:33 PM

More lying and hiding from the Trump administration.

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Annie Donaldson, the former chief of staff to White House counsel Don McGahn and a crucial witness in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, found herself blocked from replying to questions from a House panel more than 200 times because of “constitutionally-based Executive Branch confidentiality interests.”

The 55-page list of responses from Donaldson records 212 separate assertions of the clunky phrase, which appears to demand confidentiality without formally asserting executive privilege.

Donaldson issued the responses after House Judiciary Committee chair Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) subpoenaed her, along with former White House Communications Director Hope Hicks, for testimony and documents in May as part of the panel’s probe into possible obstruction of justice by President Trump.

Across the responses, Donaldson replied with the same boilerplate statement that the White House had asserted that the subject of the response was confidential.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 18 July 2019 - 10:56 AM

Trump's desperation to keep his tax returns hidden continues and even intensifies.

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President Trump and eight of his companies filed a motion on Wednesday to intervene in House Democrats’ lawsuit for his tax returns, using a personal attorney to attempt to enter the case.

Trump and his companies argued in the filing that his “interest” in the case is “well established” because he has an interest in “maintaining the confidentiality of documents they submitted to a government agency.”

House Democrats are suing to force Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin to comply with a provision in the tax code that mandates that the Treasury Department and the IRS supply the tax returns of any filer upon request to the chair of the House Ways and Means Committee.

Rep. Richard Neal (D-MA), the House Ways and Means chair, requested Trump’s personal and business returns in April. After a subpoena and repeated denials of the request, the House sued for the tax information.

Trump, for his part, has played an unprecedented game of hardball in various bids to stop any investigation of his finances. The same attorney who filed the motion to intervene, William Consovoy, earlier sent a threatening letter to the IRS saying it would be violating the law if it complied with Neal’s request. He’s also representing Trump in two separate lawsuits that seek to stop the fulfillment of Congressional subpoenas for the President’s financial information.

In the motion, Consovoy cited “taxpayers’ interest in preventing the disclosure of their confidential tax information” as a reason for intervening in the case.

He went on to argue that Trump needs personal representation — and not that of the Justice Department, which is defending in the case — because “a private party’s interest ‘cannot be subsumed within the shared interest of the citizens.'”

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 05:16 PM

Sullivan: The American System Is Already Failing. It's a sad, sad commentary on the state of our nation. Republicans couldn't be more delighted.
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Posted 07 August 2019 - 10:31 AM

The Dems are looking into Kavanaugh's criminal background while working for W Bush.

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Top Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday requested the production of documents from Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanugh’s tenure as a White House lawyer. They pointed specifically to materials that were either withheld or not requested by the Senate during Kavanaugh’s confirmation fight.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-NY) and Rep. Hank Johnson (D-GA), who chairs the Judiciary subcommittee overseeing the courts, sent the request to National Archives and Records Administration.

The Democrats’ letter said the documents were relevant to ethics and transparency legislation Congress is considering for the federal judiciary. The request pointed to the materials from Kavanaugh’s time as a staff secretary to President George W. Bush, which were not among the records requested by then-Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) when Kavanaugh’s nomination was before his committee.

Grassley requested the records from Kavanaugh’s time in Bush’s White House Counsel’s Office, which preceded the staff secretary role. But only some of those records were made available to the committee, after a personal attorney for Kavanaugh conducted a review of them himself.

“As a result of this process, the Senate Judiciary Committee received only a small fraction of Justice Kavanaugh’s White House records before voting on his nomination,” the Democrats said.

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 09:31 AM

Banks are turning over some of Trump's financial records to the investigating committees and the NY Attorney General's office. I wonder if they are starting to worry about a President or V-P Elizabeth Warren. If she's in then they'll be in the crosshairs no matter what but if they aided and abetted the nation's highest ranking political criminal then I suspect they will not be looked upon as anything but criminal.

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Investigators targeting President Trump’s financial and business history may have found a way around the White House’s blocking of congressional subpoenas, according to a Wall Street Journal report.

Banks have been handing over thousands of pages of documents related to business ties between Russians and Trump to congressional committees investigating the President, while other banks have been producing information to New York state investigators probing the Trump org.

Letitia James – New York’s attorney general – has reportedly gotten information about loans to the Trump org, potentially offering a tantalizing view of the notoriously opaque group’s financial makeup.

A joint investigation by the House Financial Services and Intelligence committees hit a roadblock in May after Trump sued to block subpoenas issued to two of his longtime lenders – Deutsche Bank and Capital One. Those subpoenas targeted information on the financial history of Trump himself, that of his immediate family, and of his closely held business entities.

But the records being provided by the banks, both to James and to congressional investigators, could shed light on some of the same topics targeted by the subpoenas, providing a potential end-run around the ongoing legal battles.

The banks that have been providing information reportedly include Bank of America, Citigroup, Deutsche Bank, JPMorgan, Morgan Stanley, and Wells Fargo.

James’ office’s investigation into the Trump Org has reportedly yielded emails, loan agreements, and other docs from Deutsche Bank. The same probe reportedly got information from a New Jersey regional bank regarding a 2010 mortgage on Trump Park Avenue.

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 10:12 AM

Confirmation that it's moving to the next step. I think they're going to time this just right so Trump is under a constant barrage of investigation and scandal right up to the elections. The Republicans blazed this trail without actual evidence of serious wrongdoing, not that it won't stop them from whining like a little kid with a skinned knee.

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House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-NY) admitted in public Thursday evening that his panel is conducting “formal impeachment proceedings” against President Trump.

He said the Judiciary Committee will decide likely by the end of the year whether to recommend bringing articles of impeachment to the House floor.

“This is formal impeachment proceedings,” Nadler told CNN’s Erin Burnett Thursday evening. “We are investigating all the evidence, gathering the evidence. And we will [at the] conclusion of this — hopefully by the end of the year — vote to vote articles of impeachment to the House floor. Or we won’t. That’s a decision that we’ll have to make. But that’s exactly the process we’re in right now.”

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 10:41 AM

View PostLFC, on 09 August 2019 - 10:12 AM, said:

Confirmation that it's moving to the next step. I think they're going to time this just right so Trump is under a constant barrage of investigation and scandal right up to the elections. The Republicans blazed this trail without actual evidence of serious wrongdoing, not that it won't stop them from whining like a little kid with a skinned knee.
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Posted 14 August 2019 - 11:29 AM

House Dems are rattling the cages of foreign diplomats a bit over the Emoluments Clause. Sounds like they're making it clear that they will be viewed ... let's say "unfavorably" ... if they continue trying to bribe the current president by funneling money to his companies.

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House Democrats took a step toward asserting Congress’ right to review the president’s receipt of emoluments on Tuesday, after Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY) ordered staff on the House Foreign Affairs Committee to caution foreign officials that they may be “facilitating” President Donald Trump’s potential violation of the Constitution.

The move comes amid a string of court rulings that suggest that questions regarding the Emoluments Clause — which forbids presidents from enjoying personal benefits from foreign governments absent Congressional approval — are for the legislative branch to handle.

A committee aide described the move to TPM as an exercise in congressional prerogative, adding that the move is meant to resolve a “lack of clarity.”

The new policy came in a memorandum to committee staff, ordering them to “inform” foreign officials that “by providing any form of payment to a Trump-owned property their government is facilitating the President’s apparent violation of the Foreign Emoluments Clause.”

The directive goes on to request that staffers “urge” foreign officials to tell their home governments that Engel’s committee asks that they “cease and desist payments to the Trump Organization” until Congress “approves the emolument, as provided in the Constitution.”

“Congress hasn’t approved of anything yet,” the aide said. “So absent that proactive approval, one should err on the side of caution.”

Various governments have and continue to rent out prime Trump real estate. Saudi Arabia houses part of its United Nations delegation on the 45th floor of Trump World Tower in Midtown Manhattan, for example, paying millions to the President’s company in common charges for the building.

At the same time, Trump’s hotel in Washington, D.C., plays host to foreign officials and has hosted events organized by embassies in the capital.

The Committee aide added to TPM that while the committee understands that foreign governments want access to the Trump Administration, they should be wary of getting “into a domestic political morass.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer





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