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#281 D. C. Sessions

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 06:53 PM

View PostLFC, on 10 June 2019 - 04:50 PM, said:

It's easy. The Republican mantra is now "Attack! Attack! Attack again! Attack anything and everything you don't like."

... and you don't like anything that the Democrats touch.
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Posted 10 June 2019 - 07:34 PM

The more Trump and the Republicans scream about Dean, the more people will hear about the event of Dean's testimony. If they ignored Dean then his testimony would have been a complete non-event.

The only person whose testimony would matter in this matter is Mueller and he's unwilling to be clear; utter words to the effect "this is a roadmap for impeachment". Without it the country is not going to sit up and take notice. John Dean is background noise. He's not Ghost of Christmas past; that foretells Ghost of Christmas future and a transformation. Unfortunately, the situation is more dire and hopeless.

I think I agree with:

View Postgolden_valley, on 10 June 2019 - 05:41 PM, said:

The goal is to delegitimize everything so that there is no trust in any governmental entity, legal process, or the media. The demagogues seek a wide open field to do and say whatever they want.

Create enough din such that people just shut their ears to maintain some sanity.

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 08:03 PM

"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." So they are attempting to get rid of it, bit by bit, and unfortunately succeeding.
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Posted 11 June 2019 - 07:07 AM

View PostRue Bella, on 10 June 2019 - 08:03 PM, said:

"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." So they are attempting to get rid of it, bit by bit, and unfortunately succeeding.

As usual, very selectively. E.g. abortion.
The way a lot of catastrophes happen is that X doesn't occur because there are safeguards in place, therefore people assume X isn't a worry and they remove the safeguards. Then X happens.
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Posted 11 June 2019 - 08:53 AM

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 03:44 PM

Democrats brought in John Dean to discuss historical context. Republicans, as expected, flipped out, ranted, frothed, and said nothing but Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FLunky) was gently and quite easily pwned by Dean to the amusement of all. I love the comment in the article subtitle of "Florida Man Gonna Florida." There are tweets and video. Good stuff.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 04:30 PM

House Dems just sped things up for the committees.

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The House, by a 229-191 vote, approved a resolution Tuesday that will make it easier for Democrats to bring their oversight fights with the Trump administration to court.

The resolution explicitly permits Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-NY) to seek a court’s intervention to force former White House Counsel Don McGahn to comply with a subpoena for testimony. (It includes similar language for Attorney General Bill Barr. However, Nadler is holding off of taking any legal action against Barr in light of new deal for the Justice Department to share certain evidence from special counsel Robert Mueller’s report.)

The measure additionally gives other committee chairs the power to petition a court to enforce a subpoena. By doing so, House Democrats will no longer need to hold floor votes to move forward with each and every court action they seek to enforce compliance with their subpoenas.

The move could bring an onslaught of lawsuits as Democrats grapple with an administration that has been stonewalling on nearly every oversight front since Democrats took the gavel. It also reflects a moment of unity for the Democratic caucus, which is split on the question of whether to open an impeachment inquiry into President Trump.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 04:31 PM

It looks like contempt is on the way.

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The House Oversight Committee on Wednesday approved of a resolution recommending that Attorney General Bill Barr and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross be held in contempt for not complying with subpoenas in the committee’s census citizenship question probe.

The 24-15 vote came some six hours after the meeting to consider that measure started. Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) joined Democrats in voting in favor of the resolution.

As the committee meeting was getting underway, the Justice Department announced that President Trump had asserted executive privilege over the documents the committee was demanding.

Among the materials the committee subpoenaed are key internal documents from the period when the Trump administration was working with the Justice Department to craft a formal request to add the question to the 2020 census. The justification put forward in the request — that it would enhance DOJ Voting Rights Act enforcement — has been called pretextual by three federal courts, and there is ample evidence the administration had partisan reasons for including the question on the census.

“We know that this was a pretext,” Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings (D-MD) said at the beginning of Wednesday’s meeting.

“We have been blocked from fully determining the real reason the administration sought to add the citizenship question,” Cummings said.

Republicans on the committee dragged out the meeting with debates on a half dozen amendments, which were ultimately voted down, and with complaints that Cummings violated committee rules by not giving enough notice for the contempt vote.

They accused Democrats of seeking to influence the Supreme Court — which will ultimately decide whether the question stays on the census — as it considers its ruling in the case. They defended the administration’s move to add the question. And they claimed the administration had not been stonewalling the committee, pointing to the few officials that were made available for interviews, in addition to thousands of documents the administration has produced.

Democrats countered that many of those documents were heavily redacted or were already public, and that the witnesses had been instructed by agency attorneys not to answer several of the committee’s questions.

“This begs the question: what is being hidden?” Cummings said of Trump’s move Wednesday to assert executive privilege.

Wednesday’s contempt vote was the latest flashpoint in the war between House Democrats and President Trump over the authority of Congress to conduct oversight of his administration.

The Judiciary Committee previously recommended that Barr be held in contempt for his refusal to turn over certain materials related to special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation. However, House Democrats on Tuesday stopped short of holding him in contempt on the floor. Instead, they passed a measure that authorized the filing of lawsuits to force him and former White House counsel Don McGahn into complying with the Judiciary Committee’s subpoenas.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer





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