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Posted 24 October 2019 - 11:43 AM

Nice try, Gaetz-heads.

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After her testimony was delayed for five hours as non-committee member Republicans stormed the secure hearing room, top Pentagon official Laura Cooper finally spoke for over three hours on Wednesday.

According to Politico, Democrats who sat in on the hearing didn’t share details about it, while Trump ally Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) was quick to say that some aspects of her testimony contradicted that of Ukraine diplomat Bill Taylor. Taylor’s testimony is widely considered damning for the President, as it clearly lays out the quid pro quo he and his allies pushed on Ukraine.

Cooper was the first employee of the Defense Department who testified despite orders to ignore the committees’ subpoena.

The Republican stunt was likely an attempt to change the narrative on the impeachment inquiry, as evidence against Trump stacks up.

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 11:45 AM

Bill Barr went to Italy twice to get Italian intelligence to give up a different story than U.S. intelligence. Swing and a miss!

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The Prime Minister of Italy has shot down a big chunk of the Barr/Trump conspiracy theory about a Deep State plot against President Trump that allegedly gave birth to the Russia probe. Giuseppe Conte says Italy had nothing to do with the Russiagate probe or investigation. He goes on to discuss the extraordinary detail that Barr asked Italian intelligence officials to confirm or explain the actions of U.S. intelligence officials. In other words, Barr has told foreign intelligence leaders that he does not believe his own country’s intelligence officials and and gone to Italy to ask if U.S. intelligence officials are telling the truth.

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 11:47 AM

Giuliani has finally figured out that he's in deep shit. Not the brightest bulb in the pack, that one.

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Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani has been asking around for possible defense attorneys, a notable move since he asserted last week that he’d only lawyer up if absolutely necessary.

According to CNN, Giuliani said Wednesday that he had not yet been contacted by the FBI or prosecutors at the SDNY, despite reports that federal prosecutors in New York are investigating his business deals in Ukraine.

Giuliani let go of attorney Jon Sale after the lawyer helped him deny compliance with House committees’ subpoena earlier this month.

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 11:50 AM

Who else is somehow involved in the Trump-Ukraine scandal? Why no other than top Trumpsucker Sean Hannity! Looks like he was trying to create a bogus counter-narrative using Giuliani's henchmen and the disgraced, corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor who was tossed out on his ass at the urging of the US, EU, and IMF. (But yeah, it was Biden protecting his son. Let's go with that.)

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Two associates of Rudy Giuliani’s arrested for a campaign finance conspiracy earlier this month were on their way to help with a planned interview between Fox News’ Sean Hannity and former Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin, they told others.

CNN reported the reason for Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman’s trip on Wednesday, citing four people familiar with the duo’s plans.

Parnas and Fruman were arrested the night of Oct. 9 as they boarded a one-way international flight out of Washington, D.C., reportedly to Vienna. Giuliani subsequently told the Atlantic that he too was scheduled for a flight to Vienna on Oct. 10.

According to CNN’s sources, Parnas and Fruman claimed to others that they were going to Vienna to meet Giuliani and help with an interview in the city between Hannity and Shokin.

Shokin is the former Ukrainian prosecutor general. President Donald Trump and his allies have asserted that Joe Biden put pressure on Ukraine’s government to fire Shokin in order to protect Biden’s son, Hunter, who served on the board of the Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma. In reality, Joe Biden joined scores of western leaders in calling for Shokin’s ouster because the country’s top prosecutor was seen as insufficiently tough on corruption.

But Shokin has readily provided ammunition for Trumpworld’s campaign against Biden, most notably in a sworn affidavit entered into the case of a Ukrainian oligarch that restated the claims about Joe and Hunter Biden. The affidavit quickly became pro-Trump fodder, cited by Giuliani and others on TV interviews.

That oligarch, Dmitry Firtash, has for years lived in Vienna as he’s fought extradition to the United States on bribery charges.

Notably CNN’s report contrasts with what Giuliani told the Atlantic — that he and his clients and business partners, Fruman and Parnas, would coincidentally be in the same city on the same day without having planned on meeting each other.

A Fox News spokesperson relayed a statement from Hannity to TPM. “We never reveal our sources, potential sources, or persons they may or may not request to interview,” it read. “Sean Hannity takes the first amendment seriously.”

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 12:00 PM

View PostLFC, on 24 October 2019 - 11:47 AM, said:

Giuliani has finally figured out that he's in deep shit. Not the brightest bulb in the pack, that one.

I suggest his defense lawyer not be named Rudy Giuliani.

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 12:11 PM

View Postindy, on 24 October 2019 - 12:00 PM, said:

I suggest his defense lawyer not be named Rudy Giuliani.


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Posted 24 October 2019 - 12:56 PM

View Postindy, on 24 October 2019 - 12:00 PM, said:

I suggest his defense lawyer not be named Rudy Giuliani.

Given that Rudy has proven himself a fool, who better?
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Posted 24 October 2019 - 01:47 PM

Peter Navarro probably didn't think he'd be a media target when he took his cushy, conspiracy theorist, ignorance is a plus White House position.

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White House trade adviser Peter Navarro on Thursday swatted away any direct questions about whether former Vice President Joe Biden came up during President Trump’s trade negotiations with China.

“You don’t have a right to know what happens behind closed doors in the administration,” he told CNN’s Jim Sciutto. The TV host pushed back, however, insisting, “the American people have a right to know if politics have entered trade negotiations.” Navarro then pivoted to “the problem” of anonymous sources in news stories. “I’m asking you a direct question: Did you bring up investigating the Bidens as part of the negotiations?” Sciutto replied. But Navarro deflected again, saying: “You’re asking me about what happens in the White House behind closed doors in negotiations.”

CNN has reported that Trump mentioned Biden’s political prospects during a phone call with Chinese President Xi Jinping on June 18, and told the leader he would keep quiet about the protests roiling Hong Kong.

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 02:02 PM

Uh, oh. Is this White House witness tampering?

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Some Democrats involved in the impeachment inquiry are beginning to suspect that certain witnesses have coordinated with each other ahead of testifying to ensure their stories do not conflict—the very outcome investigators are trying to avoid by conducting hearings behind closed doors.

Two Democratic lawmakers told The Daily Beast that, over the course of the nine witness depositions they have conducted over the last several weeks, there have been suggestions that certain witnesses spoke to each other about what they would say to impeachment investigators.

“We have direct evidence from our investigation that witnesses have talked to each other about their testimony,” said Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA), a member of the House Intelligence Committee, adding that the evidence concerns two witnesses in particular, whom he declined to name.

And Rep. David Cicilline (D-RI) said, “There’s some testimony already that has suggested there has been conversation” among witnesses.

“We’re working very hard to protect the integrity of the investigation and prevent witnesses from sharing their testimony with each other,” he said. “You can only do that so much.”

House Democrats have argued that, at this early stage in the impeachment inquiry, proceedings need to happen behind closed doors so that witnesses aren’t aware of exactly what other witnesses are saying and, therefore, aren’t able to adjust their stories so that they’re all on the same page.

That witnesses might coordinate, Swalwell said, is concerning “because they would tailor [testimony] to try and help each other or manufacture alibis.”

Doing so while lying under oath, of course, is a crime—something that several Democrats believe may have been committed by at least one witness, U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland. Short of that, less-than-candid testimony from witnesses threatens to undermine the investigation that Democrats are attempting to conduct, all while they get attacked relentlessly by Republicans for not holding hearings that are open to the public.

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 02:12 PM

View PostLFC, on 24 October 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:


Gaetz, like Trump, was born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a triple.

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 03:46 PM

There is nothing illegal about witnesses talking to each other before testifying. Conspiring to lie under oath is another matter.

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 04:41 PM

Giuliani managed to keep his trap shut for a little while. He just opened it up on Twitter and f***ed up again. Here's just the first part of the f***-up. There's more in the rest of the article.

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Rudy Giuliani has been conspicuously absent from Twitter and TV in recent days as the legal and political crises engulfing him and his most high-profile client, President Donald Trump, have become increasingly dire.

But on Wednesday night, he returned to Twitter with a bang. He tried to defend his role in the Ukraine scandal, which has been called a “shadow foreign policy” and an “irregular, informal channel”:

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With all the Fake News let me make it clear that everything I did was to discover evidence to defend my client against false charges.Dems would be horrified by the attacks on me, if my client was a terrorist.But they don’t believe @realDonaldTrump has rights. Justice will prevail

Far from exculpatory, these claims are explosive.

As I noted on Twitter, Giuliani is contradicting himself here. He has previously described his efforts to get Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden, the DNC, and the 2016 campaign as unrelated to his legal work. “I’m not acting as a lawyer,” Giuliani told The Atlantic last month of his activities in Ukraine. “I’m acting as someone who has devoted most of his life to straightening out government.”

But while Giuliani’s new version of events may help him if he wants to make a claim of attorney-client privilege, it actually makes Trump’s role in the scheme look even more damning than it already is. Legal experts argued that it only strengthened the case for impeachment.

“This merely confirms what was so outrageous: Giuliani wasn’t a representative or employee of the United States; his duty of loyalty was 100% to his (personal capacity) client. And yet Trump told Ukraine it had to dance to Rudy’s tune,” said Marty Lederman, a law professor at Georgetown University Law Center. “[A] a tune *designed to advance Trump’s personal interests*–in order to remain in the U.S.’s good graces (e.g., to secure access, aid, etc.). This is the highest of high crimes–using the leverage of his position as chief diplomat to advance his own interests.”

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 04:48 PM

View PostLFC, on 22 October 2019 - 10:28 AM, said:


Unsatisfied with banning WaPo and the NYT in the White House Trump now wants to ban them for everywhere in the federal government. What a little weeny.

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The White House is canceling its subscriptions to The New York Times and the Washington Post, and the administration will order the entire federal government to not renew subscriptions to two of the nation’s top newspapers. President Donald Trump appeared on Fox News’ “Hannity” this week and called both national papers “fake.”

“Not renewing subscriptions across all federal agencies will be a significant cost saving—hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars will be saved,” White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said in an email to Rupert Murdoch’s Wall Street Journal Thursday, Axios reports. Murdoch also owns Fox News.

The decision was not made in an effort to cut costs. Just one weekend of President Trump golfing likely could pay for a year’s worth of the entire federal government’s subscriptions to both papers.

Grisham, who as White House press secretary has never held a press conference, did not address the fact that government employees and members of the U.S. military reportedly can subscribe for free to the Post by using their .gov or .mil email addresses.

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 04:56 PM

The defenses are getting more and more pathetic. Here's Little Lindsey shifting a little but never passing up an opportunity to whine again.

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Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) won’t exactly exonerate President Trump for his Ukraine quid pro quo, but that doesn’t mean he finds the House’s impeachment inquiry valid.

According to CNN, Graham expressed uncertainty over what will come out of the impeachment inquiry following a lunch at the White House Thursday.

“I don’t know what’s going to happen in terms of Ukraine,” Graham said, before airing his “own view about the letter” and railing against the House for its “dangerous” approach to the investigation.

“I’m not here to tell you that Donald Trump’s done nothing wrong,” Graham told CNN. “I’m not here to tell you anything other than that the way they’re going about it is really dangerous for the country and we need to change course while we can in the House.”

Graham then reiterated the White House’s talking point of Trump being “hounded about things he didn’t do” as far back as when he began his presidency.

“He feels like it never ends and that when it comes to Donald Trump nobody really cares if he has a fair day in court but a handful of Republicans,” Graham told CNN.


Some Republicans are rallying around Mulvaney, the guy who publicly admitted to the quid pro quo ... and then claimed he didn't.

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Conservatives are showing their support for acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney following his disastrous press conference last week during which he admitted President Trump’s Ukraine quid pro quo.

According to a Politico report Thursday, a group of prominent conservatives — which include Ginni Thomas of Liberty Consulting, Tim Chapman of Heritage Action for America and David Bossie of Citizens United — plan to send a letter to the White House showing their support for the embattled acting chief of staff.

The letter praises Mulvaney for being “the most successful chief of staff in this administration to advance the Trump pro-America agenda,” arguing that recent news reports demonstrate how “the D.C. Swamp is attacking him.”

“Mulvaney has been a trusted ally of the conservative movement since his days in the South Carolina state legislature, and in the U.S. Congress,” the letter continues. “He is a proven leader, and an outspoken advocate of conservative principles and policies.”

The letter concludes with a call for Trump to make Mulvaney “permanent in the Chief of Staff role.”

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 04:57 PM

Oooooo, isn't this cozy!

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The pro-Trump lawyer couple that helped Rudy Giuliani look for political dirt in Ukraine is also representing the conservative journalist that first published some of that dirt, Politico reported Thursday.

John Solomon, until recently an op-ed columnist and executive vice president at The Hill, has been represented by Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing “for years,” he told Politico.

“John Solomon has been a client of our firm for a very long time,” diGenova confirmed to Politico.

The tie between the lawyers and the journalist adds to an increasingly incestuous picture of the effort to obtain and publish damaging information about President Donald Trump’s political rivals.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 06:52 PM

View PostJackD, on 24 October 2019 - 03:46 PM, said:

There is nothing illegal about witnesses talking to each other before testifying. Conspiring to lie under oath is another matter.

How about witnesses before a grand jury? That's more like this situation.
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Posted 24 October 2019 - 07:51 PM

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The pro-Trump lawyer couple that helped Rudy Giuliani look for political dirt in Ukraine is also representing the conservative journalist that first published some of that dirt, Politico reported Thursday.



John Solomon, until recently an op-ed columnist and executive vice president at The Hill, has been represented by Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing “for years,” he told Politico.



“John Solomon has been a client of our firm for a very long time,” diGenova confirmed to Politico.



The tie between the lawyers and the journalist adds to an increasingly incestuous picture of the effort to obtain and publish damaging information about President Donald Trump’s political rivals.


That explains why The Hill keeps coming out with such ridiculous nonsense defending Trump.
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Posted 25 October 2019 - 09:27 AM

The extortion of Ukraine was so blatant that John Bolton blocked anything that might remotely help the nation from getting to Trump because he knew he'd just kill it.

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The Trump administration’s United States Trade Representative reportedly withheld his recommendation to reinstate some of Ukraine’s trade privileges with the U.S. in late August, the same time when President Donald Trump had frozen military aid to Ukraine.

According to the Washington Post’s Thursday report, Robert E. Lighthizer was going to submit a report to President Donald Trump recommending that he restore some of Ukraine’s trade benefits until then-National Security Adviser John Bolton warned him not to.

An unnamed administration official told the Post that Bolton “intervened with Lighthizer to block it,” though the Post could not confirm whether Trump had ordered Bolton to do so.

“It was pulled back shortly before it was going to POTUS’ desk,” the official said.

Bolton reportedly told Lighthizer that Trump would likely oppose anything that would benefit Ukraine. Lighthizer had recommended that the President restore some of Ukraine’s exports to duty-free status, a benefit that was suspended in 2017 due to U.S. concerns over intellectual property rights violations in Ukraine.

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Posted 25 October 2019 - 09:31 AM

Barr is definitely running interference and may be permanently (and intentionally) screwing up future prosecutions. The fascist dictatorship. It's here.

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When several Trump administration figures, from the President himself on down, have labeled the Department of Justice as part of a potential quid pro quo with Ukraine, it’s hard to believe the DOJ’s denials of its involvement.

For a typical Justice Department, its repeated implication in the ongoing Ukraine scandal would be extremely problematic. The DOJ is a law enforcement entity whose legitimacy stands on it being viewed as independent from the White House.

But this Justice Department is already pursuing what has now become a criminal investigation that appears geared toward vindicating President Trump politically. It also made key decisions about how to handle the initial allegations of presidential abuse of power in the Ukraine matter — decisions that could have kept Trump’s improper actions from becoming public.

The many ways the department has come up in claims about Trump’s Ukraine gambit is not just a perception issue for the law enforcement agency, former DOJ officials told TPM, but could cause legal problems in department prosecutions. It also raises more suspicions about the current DOJ investigation into how its probe of 2016 election interference was handled. The investigation, which started as an administrative review, was already attracting criticism amid signs that Attorney General Bill Barr was chasing debunked allegations about how the Russian meddling probe was started.

Late Thursday, the New York Times reported that Durham’s probe was now a criminal investigation. What’s known about the investigation suggests that it’s focused on the unfounded allegations pushed by Trump’s allies about how the Russia probe was started.

“If you’re at the Justice Department, the thing you are usually most worried about is people accusing you of conducting law enforcement investigations for political reasons,” Matt Miller, who served as spokesperson to Attorney General Eric Holder, told TPM.

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Posted 25 October 2019 - 09:33 AM

The Dems now appear to believe the whistleblower is no longer important because of the vast amount of corroborating evidence. Republicans are freaking out because they want a public enemy to attack.

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According to the Washington Post, Democrats now feel that that initial complaint has been sufficiently bolstered by Trump administration officials’ hearings that the whistleblower’s in-person testimony — and, potentially, unmasking — is redundant.

Republicans, on the other hand, are rabid as ever in their desire to reveal the whistleblower’s identity, one tactic in a broader attempt to undermine the inquiry.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer





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