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#41 Bact PhD

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 08:19 PM

View Postandydp, on 08 May 2019 - 07:06 PM, said:

My wife is looking over the list now, specifically for the Camden Diocese. She knew and her family knew a few of these people.
She's not the only one. My elementary/early middle school years encompass both the Camden & Trenton Dioceses. I've already caught one overlap, and I'm only in the Bs.

ETA: That overlap was the only one, and the name rang precisely zero bells. Unfortunately, that particular former parish in the Camden Diocese had several accused molesters over the decades, from the 1950s into the mid-1990s (kind of like the one talked about in the article). My other former parish from those years had one as well, but he arrived a decade after we had moved to Flori-DUH.

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 09:09 AM

View Postandydp, on 08 May 2019 - 07:06 PM, said:

My wife is looking over the list now, specifically for the Camden Diocese. She knew and her family knew a few of these people.

The church I attended as a child was listed but no overlap for me.
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Posted 09 May 2019 - 09:44 AM

https://www.upi.com/.../4651557403406/


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May 9 (UPI) -- Pope Francis introduced a major change in Catholic law Thursday, which requires all priests and nuns worldwide to report incidents of sex abuse and attempts to cover them up.

The new procedures will take effect June 1 and will be re-evaluated after three years, the Vatican said.

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Francis said church officials who act to "interfere with or avoid civil investigations or canonical investigations" will be subjected to investigation.

The pope's decree does not specify penalties for violating the new law.

2019. Better late than never. Perhaps a step in the right direction. But what does "subjected to investigation" even mean?
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Posted 09 May 2019 - 09:58 AM

View PostRue Bella, on 09 May 2019 - 09:44 AM, said:

2019. Better late than never. Perhaps a step in the right direction. But what does "subjected to investigation" even mean?

I can hardly wait to see what Dreher has to say about this. If he praises Pope Frank's move it will be through gritted teeth. He's been bashing everything that he's done to move the ball down the field. Meanwhile he's all in for Ratzinger because he's an old school Catholic (much like Dreher and less like Jesus) but he has a tough time admitting that Ratzinger was up to his rat-faced beady little eyeballs in the cover-ups.

Unfair but seriously, would you leave a child alone with this man?

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Posted 13 May 2019 - 12:15 PM

TDB has a piece on the sex lives of nuns. The more you read on this topic the more you realize how much the Catholic Church's celibacy requirement and general theme of guilt over sex and birth control completely f***s with the human psyche. Of course this "holy doctrine" was invented to f*** with the human psyche in the first place. This encapsulates the destruction of logical thought pretty well.

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Giovanni Ricci says he first started an affair with a nun when he was a mathematics teacher at a Catholic school in a suburb of Rome. He and the sister were both in their early twenties, he says, and it started as an innocent flirt, but soon turned sexual. He says the nun was afraid of getting pregnant but didn't like the idea of breaking the Catholic Church’s ban on birth control.

“It was a difficult relationship, to say the least,” Ricci, who is also Catholic and suffered with his own guilt about what he was doing, told The Daily Beast. Eventually his lover transferred to another part of Italy and Ricci lost touch with her. “She was like a normal Italian girl full of life and love, but she was more devoted to the church in the end. I felt sorry for her. It didn't seem fair that she had to choose between being faithful and sexually fulfilled.”

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 03:53 PM

The Dallas archdiocese gets raided.

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Texas police investigating child sexual abuse on Wednesday raided offices of the Catholic diocese in Dallas, after alleging that church officials had not been fully cooperative.

Police served search warrants at the headquarters of the diocese, a storage location and offices of a local church.

The raids were connected to the investigation of a fugitive priest named Edmundo Paredes and at least five new allegations of abuse against other suspects, police said.

“These investigations stem from additional allegations made after the case against Mr. Paredes became public,” Major Max Geron of the Dallas police said.

Paredes is charged with sexual abuse of a child and accused of molesting at least three other minors. He disappeared from the suburban Dallas church where he served for decades and is believed to have fled to his native Philippines.

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 02:18 PM

New York changes the law which leads to an onslaught of accusations and filings against the Catholic Church.

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Doe’s case is one of more than 100 lawsuits that were filed so far on Wednesday in 11 counties, mostly targeting Catholic dioceses in New York, by survivors of child sex abuse.

The suits were enabled by the state’s Child Victims Act, which passed in January and went into full effect at midnight Wednesday. The law removes the state’s statute of limitations on sex crimes against children and provides a one-year window, beginning Wednesday, to pursue legal action—no matter the age of the accuser, when the abuse occurred, or if the alleged perpetrator is alive or dead.

In addition to the new window, as of Wednesday, criminal charges can be filed against sexual abusers of children until accusers turn 28—up from age 23—in felony cases, and civil cases can be filed against abusers and institutions until the person making the claim turns 55.

More than 1,000 lawsuits took advantage of a similar one-year window in California in 2003, The New York Times reported.

Attorney Michelle Simpson Tuegel told The Daily Beast that her legal team represents more than 170 sexual-abuse survivors in New York and plans to file at least 15 clergy sex-abuse cases on Wednesday against Catholic Church dioceses in Manhattan, Albany, Brooklyn, Buffalo, Ogdensburg, Rochester, and Syracuse.

“These are just a few of the hundreds of cases we plan to file in the coming month,” said Simpson Tuegel, in a Wednesday morning teleconference.

The Catholic Archdiocese of New York, in advance of Wednesday, sued its insurance providers to ensure they would be covered during the onslaught of legal cases.

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Posted 21 August 2019 - 12:56 PM

Oh, Frank. You just reset public perception on the Vatican's protection of pedophiles back to zero.

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On Monday, the shutters of Australian Cardinal George Pell’s lavish apartment in the shadow of St. Peter’s Basilica were open and cleaners could be seen dusting the window sills. Pell had clearly hoped that he would be free to return to this upper-floor flat and to the life he once enjoyed. But on Wednesday, three Melbourne judges decided that Pell will be staying in an Australian jail after being convicted of child sexual abuse.

“By a majority of two to one, the court of appeal has dismissed Cardinal Pell’s appeal against his conviction,” Chief Justice Anne Ferguson announced.

Pell was said to have been sitting with his head bowed as the decision was announced, while cheers from outside the building could be heard as Ferguson explained the decision.

Ferguson dismissed an argument made by Pell’s defense that there was room for reasonable doubt by the jury.

“It is not enough that the jury might have had a doubt, but they must have had a doubt,” she said. “This was a compelling witness, clearly not a liar, not a fantasist and was a witness of truth.”

Last February, Pell, 78, was convicted on charges he sexually abused two choir boys in a Melbourne cathedral in the late 1990s. He was sentenced to six years in Melbourne Assessment Prison last February, and has spent the last 175 days in solitary confinement.

Prior to his sentencing, his lawyer, Robert Richter, who has since been dismissed, pleaded for a lenient sentence, calling Pell’s abuses, a “plain vanilla sexual penetration case where the child is not actively participating.” That clearly did not help his client, who denied he had committed the act.

The Vatican did not oppose Pell’s efforts to reverse the verdict.

The day before the verdict, a Vatican spokesperson pointed The Daily Beast back to its original statement on the matter. “Cardinal Pell has reiterated his innocence and has the right to defend himself to the last degree,” it said in a statement. “Waiting for final judgment, we join the Australian bishops in praying for all the victims of abuse.”

Now that Pell’s appeal has been denied, Pope Francis is in a tight corner. Vatican policy has for years centered on placing blame for the sex-abuse scandal on local dioceses and on the bishops in charge of perverted priests. But in the case of Cardinal Pell, the highest-ranking church official to be convicted, only the pope can decide what to do now. Will he defrock the cardinal who was once in his inner circle? Will he finally take him off the Vatican website, where he is still listed as head of the Holy See Secretariat for the Economy?

Apparently not. The day of the ruling, the Vatican doubled down on its support of Pell’s innocence. “While reiterating its respect for the Australian judicial system, as stated on 26 February after the first instance verdict was announced, the Holy See acknowledges the court’s decision to dismiss Cardinal Pell’s appeal,” the Vatican said in a carefully worded statement. “As the proceedings continue to develop, the Holy See recalls that the Cardinal has always maintained his innocence throughout the judicial process and that it is his right to appeal to the High Court.”

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Posted 27 August 2019 - 10:47 AM

Fleecing the poor, an age old Catholic Church tradition.

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A famed Catholic religious order settled sex abuse cases in recent months by secretly paying two black Mississippi men $15,000 each and requiring them to keep silent about their claims, The Associated Press has found.

The cash payments are far less than what other Catholic sex abuse survivors have typically received since the church’s abuse scandal erupted in the United States in 2002.

An official with the Franciscan Friars order denies the two men’s race or poverty had anything to do with the size of the settlements.

In one case, the Rev. James G. Gannon, leader of a group of Wisconsin-based Franciscan Friars, settled an abuse claim made by La Jarvis D. Love against another friar for $15,000, during a meeting at an IHOP restaurant where Gannon met with La Jarvis, his wife and their three small children.

“He said if I wanted more, I would have to get a lawyer and have my lawyer call his lawyer,” La Jarvis Love, 36, told the Associated Press. “Well, we don’t have lawyers. We felt like we had to take what we could.”

La Jarvis’s cousin, Joshua K. Love, 36, also settled his abuse claim for $15,000 — something he now regrets.

“They felt they could treat us that way because we’re poor and we’re black,” Joshua Love said of the settlements he and La Jarvis received.
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Across the United States, settlements have ranged much higher. In 2006, the Catholic Diocese of Jackson, which includes Greenwood, settled lawsuits involving 19 victims— 17 of whom were white— for $5 million, with an average payment of more than $250,000 per victim.

In 2018, the St. Paul-Minneapolis archdiocese agreed to pay an average of nearly $500,000 each to clergy abuse survivors.

Joshua Love and La Jarvis Love and a third alleged victim, Joshua’s brother Raphael Love, say they were repeatedly abused by Brother Paul West during the 1990s, when they were elementary school students at St. Francis of Assisi School, in Greenwood, Mississippi.

On some occasions, Joshua Love said, West asked whether he preferred to be beaten or molested. “He gave me the option to whup me or play with my penis,” he said.

Joshua Love said he was also abused by a second Franciscan at the school, the late Brother Donald Lucas.

Catholic officials have been promising to end the cover-up of sex abuse for nearly two decades. In 2002, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops approved a Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People, pledging to respond to abuse allegations in an “open and transparent” manner. And earlier this year, Pope Francis issued a new church law requiring Catholic officials worldwide to report sexual abuse — and the cover-up of abuse — to their superiors.

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Posted 27 August 2019 - 10:52 AM

View PostRue Bella, on 11 April 2019 - 11:47 PM, said:

He wouldnt be the only christian who claims his religious beliefs are what keeps him from sinning in a big way. Scary people.

And when their religion gives them a green light? (Not that that would ever happen, mind, but as long as we're being hypothetical and all ...)
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 04:24 PM

Dreher covers one of the most evil men in the sexual abuse scandal.

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New York Cardinal Edward Egan, who died in 2015, had a reputation as a cold-hearted, legalistic man. How cold? There’s a newly-released independent investigation commissioned by the Diocese of Bridgeport, Conn., which Egan led until John Paul II moved him to New York. Catholic News Agency writes about the report — which, again, was commissioned by Egan’s former diocese:

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In dealing with survivors of abuse, the report found he “followed a scorched-earth litigation policy” that dragged out court battles and “re-victimized survivor plaintiffs,” not only taxing diocesan assets in the process but poisoning the Church’s standing with the laity and society.

The report also found that Egan “freely acknowledged” that he prioritized diocesan asset preservation and protection against scandal over justice for abuse victims, the report said. Along with Bishops Curtis and Shehan, he continuing transferring known abusers without disclosing the danger to pastors and parishioners.

In a 1993 letter cited by the report, Egan explained that he refused to take any canonical action against an abuser priest, or to seek to have him removed from ministry because the scandal would be worse for the Church than the abuse.

“There can be no canonical process either for the removal of a diocesan priest from his priestly duties or for the removal of a priest from his parish when there is serious reason to believe that the priest in question is guilty of the sexual violation of children, and especially when he has confessed,” Egan wrote.

“For the bishop who would countenance such a process would be opening the way to the gravest of evils, among them the financial ruin of the diocese which he is to serve.”

Think about that. This man Egan, as the Bishop of Bridgeport, believed it would be worse for the Church to remove an abuser from ministry because it might end up costing the Church a fortune. The “gravest of evils” is not a priest sodomizing children, but financial loss to the Church.

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Posted 03 October 2019 - 05:13 PM

Yes. It still amazes me that Dreher sees so very clearly how the corruption and coverups of the Catholic hierarchy led to the religious disaffection of multiple generations of Catholics, including himself, but makes the very same decision made by the corrupt bishops he decries when it comes to politics, and for the very same ostensible reasons: if powerful political conservatives are called to account for their misdeeds, then "conservatism" loses and Satan wins.

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 01:21 PM

The disgusting legacy of the Catholic Church continues to be dragged out into the sunlight. If it doesn't survive this then, really, who f***ing cares? The corruption has been at every level (including and maybe especially Dreher's beloved Joseph Ratzinger). If they were sued into oblivion and left behind in the dustbin of history would the world really be a worse place? I don't think so.

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At least 166 children were abused by dozens of Catholic priests in Colorado since 1950, a report released Wednesday says.

The 263-page report details decades of misconduct and reveals how it took nearly 20 years for one diocese to discipline priests accused of sexually abusing children.

"This is a dark and painful history," Colorado Attorney General Phil Weiser told reporters. "The culture going back decades was one where there was a reluctance to acknowledge and address wrongdoing."

The report was commissioned by the Colorado attorney general's office in agreement with the state's three dioceses to document sexual misconduct involving minors by priests.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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