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#41 Bact PhD

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 08:19 PM

View Postandydp, on 08 May 2019 - 07:06 PM, said:

My wife is looking over the list now, specifically for the Camden Diocese. She knew and her family knew a few of these people.
She's not the only one. My elementary/early middle school years encompass both the Camden & Trenton Dioceses. I've already caught one overlap, and I'm only in the Bs.

ETA: That overlap was the only one, and the name rang precisely zero bells. Unfortunately, that particular former parish in the Camden Diocese had several accused molesters over the decades, from the 1950s into the mid-1990s (kind of like the one talked about in the article). My other former parish from those years had one as well, but he arrived a decade after we had moved to Flori-DUH.

Edited by Bact PhD, 08 May 2019 - 08:46 PM.

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 09:09 AM

View Postandydp, on 08 May 2019 - 07:06 PM, said:

My wife is looking over the list now, specifically for the Camden Diocese. She knew and her family knew a few of these people.

The church I attended as a child was listed but no overlap for me.
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Posted 09 May 2019 - 09:44 AM

https://www.upi.com/.../4651557403406/


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May 9 (UPI) -- Pope Francis introduced a major change in Catholic law Thursday, which requires all priests and nuns worldwide to report incidents of sex abuse and attempts to cover them up.

The new procedures will take effect June 1 and will be re-evaluated after three years, the Vatican said.

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Francis said church officials who act to "interfere with or avoid civil investigations or canonical investigations" will be subjected to investigation.

The pope's decree does not specify penalties for violating the new law.

2019. Better late than never. Perhaps a step in the right direction. But what does "subjected to investigation" even mean?
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Posted 09 May 2019 - 09:58 AM

View PostRue Bella, on 09 May 2019 - 09:44 AM, said:

2019. Better late than never. Perhaps a step in the right direction. But what does "subjected to investigation" even mean?

I can hardly wait to see what Dreher has to say about this. If he praises Pope Frank's move it will be through gritted teeth. He's been bashing everything that he's done to move the ball down the field. Meanwhile he's all in for Ratzinger because he's an old school Catholic (much like Dreher and less like Jesus) but he has a tough time admitting that Ratzinger was up to his rat-faced beady little eyeballs in the cover-ups.

Unfair but seriously, would you leave a child alone with this man?

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" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 13 May 2019 - 12:15 PM

TDB has a piece on the sex lives of nuns. The more you read on this topic the more you realize how much the Catholic Church's celibacy requirement and general theme of guilt over sex and birth control completely f***s with the human psyche. Of course this "holy doctrine" was invented to f*** with the human psyche in the first place. This encapsulates the destruction of logical thought pretty well.

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Giovanni Ricci says he first started an affair with a nun when he was a mathematics teacher at a Catholic school in a suburb of Rome. He and the sister were both in their early twenties, he says, and it started as an innocent flirt, but soon turned sexual. He says the nun was afraid of getting pregnant but didn't like the idea of breaking the Catholic Church’s ban on birth control.

“It was a difficult relationship, to say the least,” Ricci, who is also Catholic and suffered with his own guilt about what he was doing, told The Daily Beast. Eventually his lover transferred to another part of Italy and Ricci lost touch with her. “She was like a normal Italian girl full of life and love, but she was more devoted to the church in the end. I felt sorry for her. It didn't seem fair that she had to choose between being faithful and sexually fulfilled.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 03:53 PM

The Dallas archdiocese gets raided.

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Texas police investigating child sexual abuse on Wednesday raided offices of the Catholic diocese in Dallas, after alleging that church officials had not been fully cooperative.

Police served search warrants at the headquarters of the diocese, a storage location and offices of a local church.

The raids were connected to the investigation of a fugitive priest named Edmundo Paredes and at least five new allegations of abuse against other suspects, police said.

“These investigations stem from additional allegations made after the case against Mr. Paredes became public,” Major Max Geron of the Dallas police said.

Paredes is charged with sexual abuse of a child and accused of molesting at least three other minors. He disappeared from the suburban Dallas church where he served for decades and is believed to have fled to his native Philippines.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer





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