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#441 Traveler

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 03:55 PM

This is pretty remarkable.

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These purchases produce flashy numbers. Today, CGTN, China's flagship televised propaganda outlet, has 83.7 million Facebook followers, compared to 49.6 million for BBC, 16.6 million for the New York Times, and 8 millionfor the Guardian. Yet despite their impressive follower counts (many of which, it turns out, are based in countries notorious for hosting click farms), the influence of these online outlets is limited at best.

Of course, that's not the only way to cultivate influence on social media. In China, fake and dummy accounts represent as much as 40% of all active users. Among the most prolific operators of these accounts is the Chinese government, which -- according to one estimate -- pays for nearly 450 million fake comments per year. Some of that content might actually influence users, as it seems to have done during the online frenzy over the Hong Kong protests.
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Posted 20 August 2019 - 05:45 PM

View PostTraveler, on 20 August 2019 - 03:55 PM, said:

the Chinese government, which -- according to one estimate -- pays for nearly 450 million fake comments per year
Whereas our government only pays for about 4 or 5 thousand fake Twitter comments a year, from the Twit-In-Chief. See, they are beating us at our own game. We need to replace that chair behind the Resolute desk with a commode, so he can crank out more Crap-O-Ganda.
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Posted 20 August 2019 - 06:00 PM

If one were doing a remake of Dr. Strangelove today, there could be overhyped fears of a Tweet Gap!
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Posted 20 August 2019 - 08:02 PM

 baw1064, on 20 August 2019 - 06:00 PM, said:

If one were doing a remake of Dr. Strangelove today, there could be overhyped fears of a Tweet Gap!
”And what those Chinese want to do with our precious bodily fluids is disgusting!”
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Posted 20 August 2019 - 09:04 PM

I know they're trying to corner the market on rare earth metals--fluoride too?
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Posted 21 August 2019 - 01:51 PM

China now has millions of "discredited entities." Sounds exactly like what Trump does on a less rigorous and organized basis.

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From Global Times, the Chinese government’s English language daily, this story under the headline “China punishes 12.77 million discredited entities as of 2018”:

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The big picture in the construction of China’s social credit system via a blacklist has taken initial shape, and losing credit in one place might mean an entity is restricted in other places.

Coordinated efforts among different departments have led to strengthened punishments and yielded positive results, according to an annual analysis on the blacklist for discredited behavior, which was released by the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC), China’s top economic planner, on Thursday.

As of the end of 2018, there were 12.77 million entities subject to credit penalties as disclosed by courts nationwide, while China restricted persons with bad social credit scores from taking more than 17.46 million flight trips and some 5.47 million high-speed train trips, the NDRC report showed.

Last year, more than 2 million entities exited the blacklist, including 1,417 taxpayers, after paying duties and fines, said the report.

Here’s how Global Times touted the story on Twitter:

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China restricted 2.56 million discredited entities from purchasing plane tickets, and 90,000 entities from buying high-speed rail tickets in July: NDRC #socialcredit pic.twitter.com/4zAwJ7hrBn

— Global Times (@globaltimesnews) August 16, 2019


“Discredited entities” is the chilling Beijing euphemism for people who have low social credit scores. You can become a discredited entity for doing things like not paying fines. According to Wired magazine, the intrusiveness of the social credit system has been exaggerated in the West.

That may be. But watch what Beijing is doing to the Uighurs. This is not only about restricting lawbreakers. It’s about preventing people from dissenting from the government line, including doing things like going to church. As Joe Carter pointed out, in the 2014 document announcing the beginning of the system’s development, the Communist government said that when it is complete, it will “allow the trustworthy to roam everywhere under heaven while making it hard for the discredited to take a single step.”

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Posted 21 August 2019 - 02:28 PM

View PostLFC, on 21 August 2019 - 01:51 PM, said:

China now has millions of "discredited entities." Sounds exactly like what Trump does on a less rigorous and organized basis.




“Discredited entities” is the chilling Beijing euphemism for people who have low social credit scores. You can become a discredited entity for doing things like not paying fines. According to Wired magazine, the intrusiveness of the social credit system has been exaggerated in the West.

That may be. But watch what Beijing is doing to the Uighurs. This is not only about reWatstricting lawbreakers. It’s about preventing people from dissenting from the government line, including doing things like going to church. As Joe Carter pointed out, in the 2014 document announcing the beginning of the system’s development, the Communist government said that when it is complete, it will “allow the trustworthy to roam everywhere under heaven while making it hard for the discredited to take a single step.”


Wow that is creepy. Watch out USA! Malign forces are probably already figuring out how to do that here.





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