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Posted 14 November 2019 - 04:16 PM

We have more verification of the obvious.

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A Dutch-led team of independent prosecutors has released a damning new set of audio recordings that it says captures conversations between separatist fighters in eastern Ukraine and top Russian officials that took place just days before Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down in July 2014.

The recordings appear to prove that the separatist units accused of shooting down the plane were in almost daily contact with senior Kremlin and Russian military officials at the time.

Russia has denied any involvement in the fatal disaster, which took place over a Russian-held region of eastern Ukraine in July 2014.

Investigators say the jet, which was carrying 298 people, was brought down by a Russian BUK missile system deployed by the 53rd Anti-Aircraft Brigade, which was based in the western Russian city of Kursk.

The calls, which were caught on tape, allegedly capture talks between Alexander Borodai, the self-proclaimed prime minister of the Russian-backed separatist Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), Igor Girkin, the group’s defense minister, and Russian officials Sergei Aksyonov and Vladislav Surkov. Aksyonov was appointed by Russia as the leader of Crimea after Russia annexed the peninsula in March 2014. Surkov is Putin’s aide in the Presidential Executive Office and a chief adviser.

The Moscow Times English-language Russian news outlet and AFP report that in three of the calls, the Donetsk separatists are overheard admitting they are protecting Russian interests. They also say they are acting on orders of Russia’s intelligence agencies.

“I’m carrying out orders and protecting the interests of one and only state, the Russian Federation,” Borodai is heard saying. “That’s the bottom line.”

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 01:58 PM

Trump's foreign "policy" now sees Turkey providing Russia with tests of their air defense systems against U.S. built jets with U.S. trained pilots. Trump, of course, continues fawning over the strongman who so firmly put him in his place over attacking the Syrian Kurds.

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Turkey conducted military tests using a Russian air defense system and an American-made fighter jet on Monday, in a move US officials described as "concerning."

Turkish F-16 jets flew over the capital of Ankara as part of a test of the S-400 missile defense system, which the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan purchased from Russia for $2.5 billion.

The purchase scuttled plans for Turkey to acquire the latest-generation F-35 Lightning II jet from the US, due to concerns that the Russian anti-aircraft system could exploit the US's most advanced stealth technology. The purchase effectively nixed plans for Turkey to buy the US's Patriot missile system.

One US diplomat said there was a chance that Russia had the ability to access Turkey's S-400 remotely, and use a potential backdoor to observe on NATO allies, according to Defense News.

US lawmakers threatened to mount a campaign to levy sanctions against Turkey after it received delivery of a second battery in August. The 2017 Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act allows Trump to sanction Turkey for conducting business with Russia.

It remains unclear if Trump will impose sanctions against Turkey, NATO's second-largest military after the US. In 2017, Trump described the sanctions act as "seriously flawed" and said he signed it into law "for the sake of national unity."

"Erdoğan is thumbing his nose at Trump, the US [and] NATO, and crossing another red line on S-400s," Democratic Sen. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland said on Twitter.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Tuesday told reporters that the tests were "concerning," but added he remained optimistic on resolving the impasse.

"We are hopeful. We are still talking to the Turks, still trying to figure out our way through this thing," Pompeo said.

Despite objections on the S-400, President Donald Trump, who met with Erdoğan on November 13, described his broader conversations with the Turkish president as "wonderful."

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Posted 12 December 2019 - 05:26 PM

Operation Infektion: A three-part video series on Russian disinformation

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Russia’s meddling in the United States’ elections is not a hoax. It’s the culmination of Moscow’s decades-long campaign to tear the West apart. “Operation InfeKtion” reveals the ways in which one of the Soviets’ central tactics — the promulgation of lies about America — continues today, from Pizzagate to George Soros conspiracies. Meet the KGB spies who conceived this virus and the American truth squads who tried — and are still trying — to fight it. Countries from Pakistan to Brazil are now debating reality, and in Vladimir Putin’s greatest triumph, Americans are using Russia’s playbook against one another without the faintest clue.

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Posted 17 December 2019 - 03:16 PM

This is mildly amusing.

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Western democracies may be cowering in terror about the the threat of advanced cyberattacks originating from Russia—but it seems Vladimir Putin himself isn’t quite at the cutting edge of technology. Images released by his press service appear to have accidentally revealed that Putin, 67, is still using the now-obsolete Microsoft Windows XP operating system. The Guardian reports that XP, released in 2001, was the last Microsoft operating system approved for use on official Russian government computers, so Putin’s computer hasn’t been updated for years. The Kremlin is reportedly phasing out American software on government computers in favor of Russia’s Astra Linux operating system. However, Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin spokesman, has not commented on why Putin continues to use the very old Microsoft operating system. Microsoft warns on its website that computers running Windows XP are “vulnerable to security risks and viruses.”

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Posted 19 December 2019 - 01:24 PM

There was a mass shooting at FSB headquarters.

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Multiple people are reported to be dead in Moscow after at least one shooter opened fire Thursday evening at the highly secure headquarters of Russia’s Federal Security Service, or FSB, according to several Russian news outlets.

Heavy gunfire erupted outside the Russian spy agency in Lubyanka Square, where social-media footage shows several police officers running near the building with assault rifles. According to Reuters, the shooting incident may have been planned to coincide Putin’s commemorative speech for Russia’s day of the security services.

“An unknown person opened fire near building #12 on the Bolshaya Lubyanka street,” the security agency said in a statement, according to the Interfax news agency. “Some people were injured.”

One witness told Reuters she had heard shots fired in the same area and sirens, gunfire, and screams were heard by several people. In addition to the FSB building, Lubyanka Square is also a busy shopping destination popular with tourists and about a five-minute drive from the Kremlin.

According to local news service Izvestia, as many as three people were killed in the attack, at least some of them employees of the spy agency. Two Federal Security Service personnel have also been seriously wounded, the Interfax news agency reported, citing the health ministry.

The building is in a neighborhood that is known to be in one of the most highly secured parts of Moscow.

The attack came on the same day President Vladimir Putin gave his annual televised news conference, in which he hailed Russia’s continued political stability. Putin himself is a former agent of the KGB, the predecessor agency of the FSB. As the gunfire started, he was at a gala at the Kremlin to celebrate “Security Agency Worker’s Day,” a government website reported.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 23 December 2019 - 03:47 PM

Once again Putin gets Trump to do his bidding.

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In a detailed memo to senators, the Trump administration is fighting a bill that would punish Turkey for buying Russian missiles, arguing it would drive the countries closer together. Of note, Team Trump opposes a provision in the bill that would help Syrian Kurdish refugees immigrate to the United States.

The case is laid out in a seven-page document obtained by The Daily Beast. The memo was sent by the State Department to Capitol Hill ahead of the Senate mark-up of a bill co-sponsored by Sens. Jim Risch (R-ID) and Bob Menendez (D-NJ) titled “Promoting American National Security and Preventing the Resurgence of ISIS Act.”

That legislation, which passed out of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee despite Team Trump’s opposition, would sanction Turkey for buying Russian surface-to-air missiles and would bar the U.S. from selling Turkey F-16 or F-35 fighter jets, including parts, until the country has fully abandoned the S-400 missile defense system it purchased from Russia.

Aykan Erdemir of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies argued that the administration’s opposition to the bill is useful for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

“This would definitely encourage Erdogan to continue his transgressions,” Erdemir said.

The bill to punish Turkey comes in the wake of a sanctions package that passed after Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. elections. The “Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act” (CAATSA) mandated sanctions on countries that make major new purchases of Russian weapons. But despite the fact that Turkey’s deal with Russia fits the bill, the administration hasn’t imposed sanctions—enraging members of Congress on both sides of the aisle.

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Posted 23 December 2019 - 04:00 PM

View PostLFC, on 23 December 2019 - 03:47 PM, said:


A bipartisan bill of any type, fancy that!

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Posted 23 December 2019 - 05:13 PM

I guess Russia opposes bipartisanship and its agent acts accordingly.

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Posted 23 December 2019 - 05:21 PM

View PostJackD, on 23 December 2019 - 05:13 PM, said:

I guess Russia opposes bipartisanship and its agent acts accordingly.

It depends on what the partisans agree on. If it was to work together with Russia to take over all Ukraine, Russia would be good with that form of bipartisanship.

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Posted 13 January 2020 - 07:24 PM

They are at it again.

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With President Trump facing an impeachment trial over his efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son Hunter Biden, Russian military hackers have been boring into the Ukrainian gas company at the center of the affair, according to security experts.

The hacking attempts against Burisma, the Ukrainian gas company on whose board Hunter Biden served, began in early November, as talk of the Bidens, Ukraine and impeachment was dominating the news in the United States.

It is not yet clear what the hackers found, or precisely what they were searching for. But the experts say the timing and scale of the attacks suggest that the Russians could be searching for potentially embarrassing material on the Bidens — the same kind of information that Mr. Trump wanted from Ukraine when he pressed for an investigation of the Bidens and Burisma, setting off a chain of events that led to his impeachment.

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Posted 13 January 2020 - 07:50 PM

Maybe all they need is the appearance of digging for it, then they can make up their own version. Their agent in Washington can pass it off as a confidential source's.
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Posted 15 January 2020 - 10:22 AM

Big movements going on in Russia. Putin is moving towards cementing his life-long rule. He wants to ensure that there's less risk from his "in between" placeholder than last time. There government is clearing the way for him to do it.

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The entire Russian government is resigning, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev announced Wednesday, after President Vladimir Putin proposed sweeping reforms that would weaken his successor.

Putin thanked members of the government for their work but added that "not everything worked out." Putin added that in the near future he would meet with each member of the cabinet. The mass resignation includes Medvedev.

The surprise announcement came after Putin proposed constitutional amendments that would strengthen the powers of the prime minister and parliament at the expense of the presidency.

Handing parliament more power at the expense of presidential authority could signal a power shift that has been long speculated about in Russia.

Putin's critics have suggested that he is considering various scenarios to retain his grip on control after 2024, including the option of becoming prime minister with extended powers. Similarly, in 2008 Putin swapped places with the prime minister to circumvent the constitutional provision banning the same person from serving two consecutive terms.

In his statement, Medvedev indicated that the government was resigning to clear the way for Putin's proposed reforms.

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Posted 15 January 2020 - 11:29 AM

View PostLFC, on 15 January 2020 - 10:22 AM, said:

Big movements going on in Russia. Putin is moving towards cementing his life-long rule. He wants to ensure that there's less risk from his "in between" placeholder than last time. There government is clearing the way for him to do it.

Do the various proposals include one to rename Russia? Putinistan has quite a ring to it.

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Posted 09 March 2020 - 04:46 PM

According to this author Erdogan pushed too hard and got bitch-slapped by Putin. The piece isn't that long but it's not worth quoting just pieces. You really need it to understand the whole chain of events.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer





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