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#341 George Rowell

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Posted 16 June 2019 - 08:19 PM

View Postbaw1064, on 16 June 2019 - 02:50 PM, said:

The Bible isn't paywalled, though. Although that might be a good business opportunity for someone!
Are you saying NYt is paywalled in the US?
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Posted 16 June 2019 - 08:43 PM

No link to the actual Times article?
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Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

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The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
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“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

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On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


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Posted 16 June 2019 - 09:33 PM

View PostAnBr, on 16 June 2019 - 08:43 PM, said:

No link to the actual Times article?
https://www.nytimes....ussia-grid.html
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Posted 16 June 2019 - 11:20 PM

View PostAnBr, on 22 April 2019 - 07:39 PM, said:

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Kasparov is an admirable opposition figure to Putin in that he is, at least in word as yet, committed to genuine democracy. This doesn't mean that his analysis of American politics, or Putin's strategies is of any particular value.
One would expect Sanders to be tough on Russia because he is a fairly pragmatic politician by nature and Russia's behaviour is generally contrary to American interests. Further to that, because Sanders' disposition is opposed to foreign adventures, his policy would likely lean heavily on economic sanctions as opposed to military options - not a win for Russia, specifically the opposite of what Russia would prefer.
The opinion that Russia is "pro-chaos" is not without merit, but supporting the eventual nominee of the party most likely to carry the majority of the popular vote in a national election strikes me as not all that effective in the promotion of chaos.

ETA: "Empowering extremes" would be reference to, for example, giving the US Green party a platform on RT, etc. but that wasn't really about empowering extremes, it was just about siphoning off Clinton votes, people I think, generally, underestimate how much Putin blamed Clinton for the Panama Papers.
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Posted 17 June 2019 - 01:53 AM

The media and (some) political parties have for a long time put forth extreme views that polarize the voters and evade the real middle ground issues. Parties get voted in on abortion, immigrants and divisive issues and then once elected they add the pork. I have heard it called 'Above and Below' and it seems to works every time.
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Posted 17 June 2019 - 07:20 AM

That article was encouraging to me. Good to see the US getting positioned to strike back, and letting Russia know it. Talk about the first stones....
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Posted 23 July 2019 - 10:56 AM

Russia, the recipient of both Trump and Republican Party knob polishing extraordinaire, has decided to cause trouble in South Korea now. Remember this when some right-wingnut MAGA moron parrots Sean Hannity by saying "what's wrong with trying to have a good relationship with Russia?"

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South Korea said it fired warning shots at Russian aircraft after multiple planes entered South Korea’s airspace on Tuesday, in the first such incident between the two countries. South Korea’s Defense Ministry said three planes violated South Korean airspace off its east coast, before one of them entered the country’s territorial sky. Ministry officials said South Korea launched fighter jets and fired warning shots. Chinese military planes also intruded into South Korea’s aerial identification zone, according to ministry officials. The airspace that the Russian plane violated was above a group of South Korean-held islets halfway between South Korea and Japan that has been a source of territorial disputes between them. Russia is not a party in those disputes.


Putin has decided he can cause trouble whenever he wishes now because ... well, because it's clear that he can. America's right wing has completely folded in exchange for help in the elections.
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Posted 29 July 2019 - 09:15 AM

From Feb last year A Russian troll factory had a $1.25 million monthly budget to interfere in the 2016 US election
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

— Carl Sagan


Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

— Carl Sagan
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
1995


“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

— H.L. Mencken
On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

— Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Second inaugural address January, 1937

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 07:51 PM

"Moscow Mitch" dislikes his new moniker. Awww, let's all express our sympathy for him! :mellow:

https://www.nytimes....-mcconnell.html
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 08:05 PM

View Postbaw1064, on 30 July 2019 - 07:51 PM, said:

"Moscow Mitch" dislikes his new moniker. Awww, let's all express our sympathy for him! :mellow: https://www.nytimes....-mcconnell.html

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 10:03 PM

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“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

— Carl Sagan


Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

— Carl Sagan
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
1995


“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

— H.L. Mencken
On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

— Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Second inaugural address January, 1937

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 07:46 AM

View PostBact PhD, on 30 July 2019 - 08:05 PM, said:

You'll just have to use your imagination to visualize me playing the world's tiniest violin...

He's been winning every battle (in a sense even making Obama a one term President by neutralizing his second term) and can't take a little bit of name calling? What a crybaby.

Trump figured out that Republicans don't like being called names, so he did it relentlessly. I suppose there's some value in that tactic.

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 07:58 AM

View PostProbabilistic, on 31 July 2019 - 07:46 AM, said:

He's been winning every battle (in a sense even making Obama a one term President by neutralizing his second term) and can't take a little bit of name calling? What a crybaby.

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 11:58 AM

View PostBact PhD, on 30 July 2019 - 08:05 PM, said:

You'll just have to use your imagination to visualize me playing the world's tiniest violin...

View PostAnBr, on 30 July 2019 - 10:03 PM, said:

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I have no idea what Bact PhD actually looks like but I definitely didn't have the impression she was a bearded black man.
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Posted 31 July 2019 - 02:45 PM

View PostLFC, on 31 July 2019 - 11:58 AM, said:





I have no idea what Bact PhD actually looks like but I definitely didn't have the impression she was a bearded black man.
Well, I *did* say, “use your imagination...”
...and that was pretty “imaginative”! :D

FTR, it’s a good thing I had just put my water glass down before I read the replies.
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Posted 31 July 2019 - 02:49 PM

View PostBact PhD, on 31 July 2019 - 02:45 PM, said:

Well, I *did* say, “use your imagination...”
...and that was pretty “imaginative”! :D

FTR, it’s a good thing I had just put my water glass down before I read the replies.

I'd like to get ChemPhD's reaction!
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Posted 31 July 2019 - 03:36 PM

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I'd like to get ChemPhD's reaction!
:D
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(About fame) Living for likes, shares and follows is a form of validation. The question is whether it is also the source of our self esteem. If it is, we’re screwed. And, culturally, it seems as if it’s become more and more our shared value. ... Meringue is no longer a sweet and pretty topping but the body itself. ~Charles Perez

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." --Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816. ME 14:384, via LFC, 12/1/2016

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 03:39 PM

View Postbaw1064, on 31 July 2019 - 02:49 PM, said:

I'd like to get ChemPhD's reaction!

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 04:13 PM

Moscow Mitch has yet another connection to Russian oligarchs. Is it any wonder he's running interference for them every bit as hard as Trump's minions? He's been on their payroll for years and is as dirty as it gets. "Russian asset" really is the only correct description.

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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) took to the floor this week to rail against the three days of #MoscowMitch trends on Twitter. The hashtag was part of an online effort to ask why McConnell refused to warn Americans about the Russia hacking when former President Obama did. Further, there was a question about why McConnell continues to block an election security bill proposed by Democrats.

Well, Politico has discovered another Russia connection to McConnell. According to the site, two top staffers for McConnell lobbied Congress and the Treasury Department about building a Kentucky aluminum mill that was funded by a Russian company.

New lobbying disclosures uncovered the connection was to another aluminum company in Russia called Rusal. Democrats are concerned about using Russian aluminum in Defense Department projects.

Not only are former McConnell staffers doing the lobbying, but McConnell is also blocking any congressional efforts to stop the investment in Kentucky.

The funding for the project was only made possible after the Treasury Department gave sanctions relief to Rusal and other companies owned by Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch and Kremlin pal. He is accused of helping Moscow seize land in Ukraine, supply weapons to Syria and meddling in the elections of other countries.

“Attention over the sanctions relief deal has focused on McConnell, given his role in halting a bipartisan congressional effort to stop the penalties rollback,” Politico reported.

McConnell swore that his support for lifting sanctions was “completely unrelated to anything that might happen in my home state.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 05:36 PM

View PostLFC, on 31 July 2019 - 03:39 PM, said:

"You white people be trippin'." --Bact PhD

See, she is bearded black man.
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— Carl Sagan


Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

— Carl Sagan
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
1995


“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

— H.L. Mencken
On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

— Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Second inaugural address January, 1937





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