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Posted 24 April 2019 - 10:18 AM

This could go in a lot of threads...In Push for 2020 Election Security, Top Official Was Warned; Don't Tell Trump

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In the months before Kirstjen Nielsen was forced to resign, she tried to focus the White House on one of her highest priorities as homeland security secretary: preparing for new and different Russian forms of interference in the 2020 election.
President Trump’s chief of staff told her not to bring it up in front of the president.

Ms. Nielsen left the Department of Homeland Security early this month after a tumultuous 16-month tenure and tensions with the White House. Officials said she had become increasingly concerned about Russia’s continued activity in the United States during and after the 2018 midterm elections — ranging from its search for new techniques to divide Americans using social media, to experiments by hackers, to rerouting internet traffic and infiltrating power grids.

But in a meeting this year, Mick Mulvaney, the White House chief of staff, made it clear that Mr. Trump still equated any public discussion of malign Russian election activity with questions about the legitimacy of his victory. According to one senior administration official, Mr. Mulvaney said it “wasn’t a great subject and should be kept below his level.”



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Posted 24 April 2019 - 10:22 AM

View Postgolden_valley, on 24 April 2019 - 10:18 AM, said:


Traitors, every one of them with Trump being the biggest traitor.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 24 April 2019 - 11:11 AM

And the denial...

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Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said Wednesday he doesn't recall instructing aides to keep discussions about election security off President Donald Trump’s radar, after The New York Times reported Mulvaney had said the topic "should be kept below his level.”


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Posted 24 April 2019 - 11:37 AM

View Postgolden_valley, on 24 April 2019 - 11:11 AM, said:


"He doesn't recall." Isn't that pretty much the political version of the dog eating their homework?
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 24 April 2019 - 11:40 AM

Dog eating homework? No, it's admitting that he could have said that.

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Posted 24 April 2019 - 12:22 PM

Sometimes I don't recall is what Jack says it is. Sometimes it is what PG says it is. It's hard to tell which is which, but the track record for recall and honesty in the person who does not recall are clues.

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Posted 24 April 2019 - 10:00 PM

They could try to convince tRump that Putin is disappointed with him and plans on replacing him.
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

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Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

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“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

— H.L. Mencken
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“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 10:59 PM

Inside Facebook's war room: the battle to protect EU elections

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Less than three years ago, Facebook’s chief executive, Mark Zuckerberg, dismissed as “crazy” the idea that fake news on his platform could have influenced the election of Donald Trump as US president.

Today the company admits it is under siege from billions of fake accounts trying to game its systems to win elections, make money or influence people in other ways, and battling a tsunami of fake news, disinformation and hate speech.

Defeating them has become a matter of corporate survival, and Facebook wants users and regulators to know that it has stepped up those efforts. It also wants them to believe it is turning the tide.

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

— Carl Sagan


Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

— Carl Sagan
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
1995


“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

— H.L. Mencken
On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

— Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Second inaugural address January, 1937

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 06:35 AM

View PostAnBr, on 24 April 2019 - 10:00 PM, said:

They could try to convince tRump that Putin is disappointed with him and plans on replacing him.

You think that'll stiffen his spine? You're sorely mistaken. It'll lead to more groveling. Embarrassments worse than Helsinki.

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 07:27 AM

FB is a cancer on the world. No amount of AI and monitoring will withstand the perfidity of human nature. It has to go. Maybe revert to real friends and family only. Each certified by 2-step verification. And that whole like thing is addicting, and only makes folks feel worse. Just delete the like button, and make folks actually think about drafting a real response instead. It blows my mind to watch folks at a basketball game thrashing their handphones instead of paying attention to the action they paid for. Bizarre.
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Posted 07 May 2019 - 09:49 AM

View PostTraveler, on 07 May 2019 - 07:27 AM, said:

FB is a cancer on the world. No amount of AI and monitoring will withstand the perfidity of human nature. It has to go. Maybe revert to real friends and family only. Each certified by 2-step verification. And that whole like thing is addicting, and only makes folks feel worse. Just delete the like button, and make folks actually think about drafting a real response instead. It blows my mind to watch folks at a basketball game thrashing their handphones instead of paying attention to the action they paid for. Bizarre.
I'll have you know I liked this unironically!
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Posted 05 June 2019 - 01:30 PM

Russian hacking in 2016 that traitors Trump and McConnell don't want to talk about. In fact they seem to be doing everything in their power to allow a repeat for 2020.

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According to the Washington Post, the Department of Homeland Security is conducting a forensic analysis of the laptops used by poll workers in North Carolina during the 2016 presidential election for evidence of Russian hacking.

This news comes after former special counsel Robert Mueller’s report revealed that hackers affiliated with the Russian government “installed malware on the company network” of a private company that provides states with technology for voter registration.

Other evidence shows the Russians tried to hack VR Systems, a vendor that supplies voter registration equipment to North Carolina, ahead of Election Day in 2016, and many poll workers reported problems with their equipment, even going so far as to recommend against using it.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 15 June 2019 - 09:25 PM

The NYT says that US state cyber attacks on Russia have increased under president Dump. True or false?

OK, smacks of John 8:1-7
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Posted 15 June 2019 - 10:45 PM

View PostGeorge Rowell, on 15 June 2019 - 09:25 PM, said:

The NYT says that US state cyber attacks on Russia have increased under president Dump. True or false?

OK, smacks of John 8:1-7

The first phrases that come to mind are "false flag" and "disinformation". It could literally be the Trump administration feeding a reporter to prove the "no collusion" meme. Or not. The truth is probably unknowable.

But I will say this: hacking by the US or anybody else isn't going to cost Putin an election.
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Posted 15 June 2019 - 11:05 PM

View Postbaw1064, on 15 June 2019 - 10:45 PM, said:

The first phrases that come to mind are "false flag" and "disinformation". It could literally be the Trump administration feeding a reporter to prove the "no collusion" meme. Or not. The truth is probably unknowable.

But I will say this: hacking by the US or anybody else isn't going to cost Putin an election.
That is a good angle that I never considered. You are verily a saviour. It still begs the question what the hell has happened to the NYT to print these unverified reports and leaks. The NYT used to be a very prestigious publication. Now it has gone to crap. Let me answer that - market share.

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The paper is owned by The New York Times Company, which is publicly traded and is controlled by the Sulzberger family through a dual-class share structure.[10] It has been owned by the family since 1896; A.G. Sulzberger, the paper's publisher, and his father, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger Jr., the company's chairman, are the fourth and fifth generation of the family to head the paper."
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Posted 16 June 2019 - 09:00 AM

View PostGeorge Rowell, on 15 June 2019 - 09:25 PM, said:

The NYT says that US state cyber attacks on Russia have increased under president Dump. True or false?

OK, smacks of John 8:1-7

Link?
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

— Carl Sagan


Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

— Carl Sagan
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
1995


“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

— H.L. Mencken
On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

— Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Second inaugural address January, 1937

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Posted 16 June 2019 - 09:36 AM

View PostAnBr, on 16 June 2019 - 09:00 AM, said:

Link?

Here: https://biblehub.com/niv/john/8.htm
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Only Satan can rebuke sin. The righteous don't know enough.

God is not dead. He was merely voted out of office.

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Posted 16 June 2019 - 09:47 AM

Not that, the Times article.
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

— Carl Sagan


Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

— Carl Sagan
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
1995


“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

— H.L. Mencken
On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

— Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Second inaugural address January, 1937

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Posted 16 June 2019 - 02:50 PM

View PostAnBr, on 16 June 2019 - 09:47 AM, said:

Not that, the Times article.

The Bible isn't paywalled, though. Although that might be a good business opportunity for someone!
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Posted 16 June 2019 - 08:14 PM

View PostAnBr, on 16 June 2019 - 09:00 AM, said:

Link?
https://drive.google...bcY4PgGLyNqymWi
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