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Posted 17 July 2018 - 11:54 AM

View PostRich T Bikkies, on 16 July 2018 - 04:51 PM, said:

I've posted this before, but hearing that whiny New York accent reminds me of John McEnroe yelling at the umpire "You cannot be SEERIOUS!!!

JPMcE was, and is, another nasty piece of work.

But he was, objectively, a talented tennis player. Trump is a talented con artist.
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Posted 17 July 2018 - 08:34 PM

View Postbaw1064, on 17 July 2018 - 11:54 AM, said:

But he was, objectively, a talented tennis player. Trump is a talented con artist.

An important distinction.
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Posted 19 July 2018 - 01:32 PM

Does it strike anyone else as interesting that Mueller has listed as exhibits in the Manafort trial a series of emails between Tad Devine (of the Bernie campaign) and Manafort?

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Posted 19 July 2018 - 01:48 PM

View PostJackD, on 19 July 2018 - 01:32 PM, said:

Does it strike anyone else as interesting that Mueller has listed as exhibits in the Manafort trial a series of emails between Tad Devine (of the Bernie campaign) and Manafort?


Yes.

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The former campaign chairman for President Donald Trump and Devine worked together nearly a decade ago for former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych and his pro-Kremlin Party of Regions, and the pair remained in contact until at least 2014.

According to the new court filing, Manafort and Devine communicated by email through June 2014, about five months before he joined the Sanders campaign that November.

Devine and Sanders had worked together on campaigns in the 1990s, and the Democratic strategist has also worked as a campaign aide to Al Gore, John Kerry, and Michael Dukakis.

The evidence list published by federal prosecutors also shows Devine was in contact until at least 2014 with Manafort’s longtime lieutenant Rick Gates, who pleaded guilty in the special counsel probe and has agreed to cooperate, and Manafort’s “Russian brain,” Konstantin Kilimnik.

Here's something of what they talked about.

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Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver reportedly asked Devine to use his connections to Manafort to set up a debate with then-candidate Trump, who apparently liked the idea, but the campaign strategist never called back his old colleague to discuss the proposition.

I wonder what else they talked about.

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Posted 21 July 2018 - 10:14 AM

Older, but... https://www.newsweek...ar-power-847267
"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

— Carl Sagan
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
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“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

— H.L. Mencken
On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

— Franklin Delano Roosevelt
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Posted 24 July 2018 - 10:09 AM

Russian Hackers Reach U.S. Utility Control Rooms, Homeland Security Officials Say

I guess we can expect a tweet from Comrade Trump that denies it or blames Obama for it.

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Posted 24 July 2018 - 11:13 AM

View Postindy, on 24 July 2018 - 10:09 AM, said:

Russian Hackers Reach U.S. Utility Control Rooms, Homeland Security Officials Say

I guess we can expect a tweet from Comrade Trump that denies it or blames Obama for it.

"Why didn't Obama solve this problem caused by the dictator whose knob I'm polishing? Sad!"
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Posted 24 July 2018 - 09:56 PM

WSJ: Russian Hackers Reach U.S. Utility Control Rooms, Homeland Security Officials Say
"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

— Carl Sagan
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
1995


“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

— H.L. Mencken
On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

— Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Second inaugural address January, 1937

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 06:55 AM

Darn, the one paper that has a real firewall...You guys are going to have to copy/paste a little so us plebes can read the meat of the story.
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Posted 25 July 2018 - 12:38 PM

So how did Mariia Butina get into the NRA? It's downright Onionesque.

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The first American to introduce two of the major players at the heart of a shocking Russian spy scandal has such deep ties to Moscow that he has doubted Barack Obama’s American citizenship in the course of demonstrating his affinity for Vladimir Putin.

“As long as U.S. is electing foreign-born presidents,” tweeted Tennessee attorney G. Kline Preston IV in 2013, “I propose Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.”

Two years later, at a rally featuring soon-to-be-President Donald Trump, Preston tweeted: “Donald Trump today in Nashville. He is a friend of Russia.” He wrote the message in Russian.

In other words, at the very beginning of what appears to be an audacious geopolitical gambit to pivot the American right in Moscow’s direction is a birther who has explicitly stated a preference for Vladimir Putin to run the United States of America. He’s also something of a Confederate enthusiast, according to his Facebook activity.

Preston’s offline activities mirror his social-media habits. He’s occasionally works as a freelance elections observer for Russia, testifying about the fidelity and freedom of various Russian elections and bringing Moscow an American voice it can point to for legitimacy. And he’s brought officials to his home state of Tennessee to witness an American presidential election up close. Preston is also tied to Marsha Blackburn, a conservative congresswoman running for Senate in Tennessee.

It’s just a small indicator of Preston’s longstanding ties to Russia, and in particular to Alexander Torshin.

Torshin, a former Russian parliamentarian now under Treasury Department sanctions, is a friend and confidant of Preston, who has described Torshin as a client. In 2011, according to multiple accounts, Preston introduced Torshin to David Keene, then the president of the National Rifle Association. (Torshin “was interested in the NRA so I hooked him up,” Preston told The Tennessean earlier this year.) It’s the first known contact between the NRA and the Russians, and it wouldn’t be the last.


Torshin of course then brought in Butina.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 02:18 PM

Vlad, being a lot smarter than Donny, seems to be allowing him to look tough. Instead he looks like a floundering tool.

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President Donald Trump on Wednesday abruptly backed out of his own proposed Washington D.C. summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin — and he made sure to blame special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe for the cancellation.

“The President believes that the next bilateral meeting with President Putin should take place after the Russia witch hunt is over,” national security adviser John Bolton announced to reporters.

Reacting to the surprise announcement, Trump biographer and CNN contributor Michael D’Antonio ridiculed the president for his impulsive decision making.

“What are we supposed to do with this guy?” D’Antonio asked while openly laughing at the president. “Every single day, it’s like he’s spinning the wheel and it lands on a number, and it says, ‘Invite Putin.’ Then the next day it says, ‘Cancel the invitation.’ And who knows who’s whispering in his and if he’s paying attention.”

D’Antonio then said he believes the twin pressures of the Mueller probe and longtime “fixer” Michael Cohen turning on him were affecting his mental state.

“I think he’s panicking,” the Trump biographer said. “This is a fellow who goes faster and is more erratic the more afraid he is. And this, to me, seems like he’s more afraid than he ever as been — and more confused.”

“Do you think all the things that Cohen knows and could say are at the center of his panic?” asked host Brooke Baldwin.

“I think it’s everything,” D’Antonio replied. “I think he is afraid of Michael Cohen, I think he’s very afraid of Robert Mueller.”


Pompeo is thumping his soft little man-boobs as well.

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The United States refuses to recognize Russia’s claim of sovereignty over Ukraine’s Crimea and called on Moscow to end its occupation of the peninsula, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Wednesday.

“The United States rejects Russia’s attempted annexation of Crimea and pledges to maintain this policy until Ukraine’s territorial integrity is restored,” Pompeo said in a statement. “The United States calls on Russia to respect the principles to which it has long claimed to adhere and to end its occupation of Crimea.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 05:43 PM

View PostLFC, on 25 July 2018 - 02:18 PM, said:

Vlad, being a lot smarter than Donny, seems to be allowing him to look tough. Instead he looks like a floundering tool.




Pompeo is thumping his soft little man-boobs as well.

Maybe the few grown ups in the room got through to Trump. I mean Mattis and even Pompeo understand how Trump is blowing it with regard to Vlad and Russia. Pompeo reaffirmed past American position that we disapprove of Vlad taking Crimea.

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Posted 26 July 2018 - 08:28 AM

Bershidsky on Helsinki.

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The reason neither Russia nor the U.S. is releasing any details on their understandings is that there’s nothing to release. The Russians, from Putin on down it seems, have been messing with Americans’ minds, teasing them, making them paranoid. As Kosachev said, it’s clear to them that even if Trump wanted a breakthrough, he was effectively hemmed in. Under these circumstances, all they can do is troll Americans, including Trump, by stressing Washington’s internal strife and making the president look impotent.

The Russian-U.S. relations aren’t at their lowest point ever, as Trump said before the summit; they’ve been worse and they’re headed for worse, regardless of Trump’s or Putin’s personal sympathies and goals. There’s no reason for Putin to be optimistic, but he appears determined to enjoy the ride by making it as uncomfortable for Americans as possible.
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Posted 06 August 2018 - 12:00 PM

I have to believe that somewhere there is an alternative universe that is experiencing normalcy right now. Why? Because I JUST HAVE TO! Meanwhile back in our universe where truth is now stranger than The Onion we have this:

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Russia has appointed action movie star Steven Seagal as a special envoy for humanitarian ties with the United States.The Foreign Ministry announced the move Saturday on its Facebook page, saying Seagal’s portfolio in the unpaid position would be to “facilitate relations between Russia and the United States in the humanitarian field, including cooperation in culture, arts, public and youth exchanges.”

Seagal is an accomplished martial artist — like Russian President Vladimir Putin. The actor, who was granted Russian citizenship in 2016, has vocally defended the Russian leader’s policies, including Russia’s 2014 annexation of Crimea, and has criticized the U.S. government.

Last year, Ukraine banned Seagal from entering the country for five years, citing national security reasons.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 11:20 AM

This is so messed up on multiple fronts but Putin is Trump's BFF.

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Russia has threatened to cut off a supply of rocket engines that are crucial to the U.S. space program in retaliation for surprise sanctions over the Skripal poisoning. The U.S. announced Wednesday it would impose new sanctions after Washington determined Moscow had used a nerve agent against Russian former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia. Dawn Sturgess, a mother of three, died after coming across remnants of the poison, which also affected her boyfriend, Charlie Rowley. Russia continues to deny any involvement in the attempted murders using a Soviet-era nerve agent known as Novichok. “On August 8, 2018 our Deputy Chief of Mission was informed in the State Department of new ‘draconian’ sanctions against Russia for far-fetched accusations of using the ‘Novichok’ nerve agent against a U.K. citizen,” the embassy said in a statement. “We grew accustomed to not hearing any facts or evidence.” The value of the Russian ruble slid by more than 1 percent against the dollar Thursday, a day after falling toward its lowest level in nearly two years. The Russian embassy said it continued to advocate for a transparent investigation into the poisoning.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 10:29 AM

If anybody doesn't understand why Trump admires Putin so much all you have to do is read this and know that it's EXACTLY the power that Trump wants.

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It all happened in a flash: Photojournalist Alexandra Polukeeva lost consciousness as she was covering an opposition rally in St. Petersburg, Russia.

When she opened her eyes seconds later, crowds of young protesters were screaming “OMON!” as Russia’s special riot police dragged a teenage girl by her hair. Another group of officers, from a unit commonly nicknamed “cosmonauts” for their huge black helmets, were shoving a sick-looking old man with silver hair.

Symbols of shocking violence were all around Polukeeva, who had been taking photographs for Rosbalt, a Russian federal information agency, before everything went black. Now she realized the back of her head was injured, and swelling. She is young and slight and was carrying a camera, so the police had clubbed her. At the hospital later that day doctors said she had a concussion.

On Sunday, units of OMON and the Russian National Guard beat three reporters and arrested 14 more journalists during protests against the Kremlin’s corruption and pension reform. The authorities were putting on a demonstration of their own about the way they treat what they consider enemies of the regime of Vladimir Putin, or, as authoritarian rulers in Russia and elsewhere like to say, “Enemies of the people.”

Among journalists and intellectuals a sense of vulnerability is running high, but so is the sense of defiance. When activist Pyotr Verzilov of “Mediazony” fell seriously ill on Tuesday night his friends immediately suspected poisoning. Verzilov is a Canadian-Russian who sometimes served as an unofficial spokesman for Pussy Riot, who invaded the pitch during the World Cup final last summer. He fell ill soon after a court appearance in that case.

Media experts have monitored an increasing number of attacks on journalists all over Russia. According to the Committee to Protect Journalists, 38 reporters have been targeted for murder in Russia since 1992, and in 33 of those cases the killers acted with impunity. Just speak with any independent reporter in Russia today and you will hear stories of death threats and violence.

After three years of covering anti-Putin rallies, 22-year-old Polukeeva had plenty of experience as an “enemy of people” and has no patience with those, like U.S. President Donald Trump, who try to inspire hatred for journalists with phrases like that.

“Journalists should feel safe to be able to do their job—that is what the president should understand and explain to the nation, that we reporters work for the society,” Polukeeva told The Daily Beast. “We have to be in the field to prove that this is not fake news, that OMON is being more violent—than ever.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 10:51 AM

Dumpster = Man Of The People

Enemy of Dumpster (i.e. fact reporting) = Enemy Of The People

It's simple math.

Of course if you are some sort of math professor or economist, you are already on the Enemies list. Because 2018 = 1984
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Posted 13 September 2018 - 12:22 PM

According to Giuliani, the President has a joint defense agreement with Manafort and had ones with Flynn and Cohen until they entered a guilty plea. What common legal interests does he share with those guys? Did no one consider the "optics" if knowledge of the agreements become public?





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