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Posted 10 October 2018 - 06:36 AM

For sure no formal investigation. But the press did do the job for Moore, and metoo came out in force. From what we have heard so far, it is safe to say the press would have gone after this, and plenty of metoos came out in a matter of days. Just saying, this could have been played a lot more elegantly.
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Posted 17 October 2018 - 03:54 PM

A slowdown on the wholesale rejection of science in the EPA proposed by Pruitt but it's definitely still chugging along.

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The Environmental Protection Agency said Wednesday it is putting off for at least a year any final announcement on a controversial proposal overhauling how the agency evaluates science.

The agency’s so-called transparency in regulatory science rule was one of the most contentious proposed by former EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt, who stepped down last summer amid ethics scandals. Trump replaced Pruitt with current acting administrator Andrew Wheeler, who like Pruitt describes himself as a champion of rolling back what they see as unnecessary and burdensome regulations.

Supporters say the rule would help the public understand the science behind EPA regulations, by requiring scientists to disclose more details of the individual cases underlying public-health studies.

EPA public hearings on the proposal drew mainly throngs of critics— health officials, academics, researchers and others, who said the rule could force regulators to ignore the findings of major public-health studies, since much of the individual information on patients in those studies is confidential.

“The current political leadership still wants to move forward with Pruitt’s agenda to sideline science, just at a slower pace,” Yogin Kothari of the Union of Concerned Scientists nonprofit said Wednesday.

“It’s clear the agency’s political leadership still wants to ignore the best available science when it comes to protecting public health and the environment,” Kothari said.


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Sen. Mike Rounds, a South Dakota Republican, boosted the proposal at a subcommittee hearing on it earlier this month.

“The EPA has a long history of creating burdensome, unnecessary regulations without giving the public an opportunity to fully vet the reasoning behind their decisions,” Rounds said then.

Yes because the public is so capable of understanding science as well as the people who have literally spent their lives gaining expertise and because we've seen such great "common sense" policies come from Republicans.
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Posted 20 November 2018 - 10:27 AM

Ryan Zinke is screeching the line that effectively if we let them cut down all the trees there won't be forest fires. The fact that much of the fuel was dry brush that had sprung up after previous rains doesn't seem to enter into their greedy little minds because there's no short-term profit in that position. He's just another crooked, lying piece of Trump shit that cares for nothing but money.

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Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke joined President Donald Trump’s blame game over the California wildfires on Sunday, faulting “radical environmentalists” for somehow preventing forest management.

In a Breitbart interview, Zinke said that “it’s not time for finger-pointing.”

“We know the problem,” he continued.”It’s been years of neglect, and in many cases it’s been these radical environmentalists that want nature to take its course.”

“I will lay this on the foot of those environmental radicals that have prevented us from managing the forests for years, and you know what, this is on them,” he added.

According to the Los Angeles Times, experts agree that Trump and Zinke’s blame of forest mismanagement is misplaced, as the area where the fire broke out was not heavily timbered, but quickly leapt onto nearby buildings.


From the LA Times link:

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Experts agree that overgrown forests in California pose a heightened wildfire threat in some parts of the Sierra Nevada. But although Paradise is near forestland, the wind-whipped Camp fire tore across areas that burned in lightning fires in 2008 and were later logged. It was not fueled by heavy timber.

“It started out as a vegetation fire. When it reached the incorporated area, which is definitely a lot more urban and developed of an area,” Jonathan Pangburn, a fire behavior analyst for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, said in an interview last week, “it turned into a building-to-building fire ... no longer carrying through most of the vegetation, especially in the upper canopies in the trees. It was not a crown fire through the Paradise area.”

The Woolsey fire, which burned suburban areas from Oak Park to Malibu, was not near any forests. It destroyed 1,500 structures and left three people dead.

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Posted 11 December 2018 - 05:47 PM

Lead by Trump and Zinke it is now boilerplate Republican policy to allow companies and farmers to pollute at will and to destroy wetlands. They really do want us to return to the filth of the 50s and 60s that prematurely killed people regularly. They Republican hyperbole was predictable.

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Cabinet chiefs and GOP lawmakers celebrated alongside farm and business leaders Tuesday as the Trump administration made good on one of its biggest promised environmental rollbacks, proposing to remove federal protections for thousands of waterways nationwide.

Environmental groups called the proposed overhaul of federal water protections one of the gravest assaults ever on the aims of the 1972 Clean Water Act, the foundational U.S. water protection law. Administration supporters praised President Donald Trump for knocking back what they said was federal overreach.

The Obama-era water protections targeted for replacement by Tuesday’s regulatory overhaul “was never about clean water,” Rep. Sam Graves, a Republican and farmer from Missouri, and one of about a dozen GOP Congress members at Tuesday’s launch at headquarters of the Environmental Protection Agency. “It was always about the federal government getting more control over our water and our lives.”


Environmentalists, who have a MUCH better track record than agriculture and industry on these issues, see it as opening up the pollution floodgates.

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Environmental groups said the Trump administration proposal would have a sweeping impact on how the country safeguards the nation’s waterways, scaling back not just a 2015 Obama administration interpretation of federal jurisdiction, but how federal agencies enforce the 1972 Clean Water Act.

“The Trump administration has just given a big Christmas gift to polluters,” said Bob Irvin, president of the American Rivers environmental nonprofit. “Americans all over the country are concerned about the safety of their drinking water — this is not the time to be rolling back protections.”

The Trump administration would remove federal protections for wetlands nationally unless they are connected to another federally protected waterway, and for streams, creeks, washes, ditches and ponds that exist only during rains.

Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, also attending the ceremony for the regulatory changes, told the farmers and others attending the proposal “doesn’t remove any protection.”

“It puts the decision back where it should be, the people that work the land, that hunt, that own the land,” Zinke said.

Yeah, because farmers and ranchers have such a stellar record of no polluting and poisoning other people's water. Remind me again where the bacteria from that last romaine lettuce outbreak came from.


Of course homebuilders are thrilled that they'll be able to create thousands more tiny Houstons, leaving the cost of the predictable flooding on the poor saps who buy these homes with no idea what was done. We can only hope that the states and local authorities step in with sane building standards but, from what we saw in Texas, I wouldn't hold my breath especially in the red states ... who will pick our pockets yet again when the predicted disasters hit.

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“When you have uncertainty and overreach it makes it incredibly difficult to build American homes,” Gerald Howard, the CEO of the National Association of Home Builders, said of the Obama administration’s interpretation of the water rules.

Environmental groups say the kind of isolated wetlands, rain-fed streams and often dry washes that would lose federal protections also help buffer communities from the worsening impact of drought, floods and hurricanes under climate change, and are vital for wildlife.

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Posted 11 December 2018 - 08:28 PM

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Disgusting. Just disgusting. And it's nothing particularly Trumpian, just pure, mainstream Republican policy.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 28 December 2018 - 03:41 PM

Trump's EPA proposes creating more Trump supporters.

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The Trump administration on Friday targeted an Obama-era regulation credited with helping dramatically reduce toxic mercury pollution from coal-fired power plants, saying the benefits to human health and the environment may not be worth the cost of the regulation.

The 2011 Obama administration rule, called the Mercury and Air Toxics Standards, led to what electric utilities say was an $18 billion clean-up of mercury and other toxins from the smokestacks of coal-fired power plants.

Overall, environmental groups say, federal and state efforts have cut mercury emissions from coal-fired power plants by 85 percent in roughly the last decade.

Mercury causes brain damage, learning disabilities and other birth defects in children, among other harm. Coal power plants in this country are the largest single manmade source of mercury pollutants, which enters the food chain through fish and other items that people consume.


Brain damage? Check! Learning impairments? Check! If it increases belligerence (and studies show that mercury does) then it's the Trumpian Trifecta!
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 28 December 2018 - 04:14 PM

 LFC, on 28 December 2018 - 03:41 PM, said:

Brain damage? Check! Learning impairments? Check! If it increases belligerence (and studies show that mercury does) then it's the Trumpian Trifecta!
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Posted 28 December 2018 - 06:05 PM

And meth. Don't forget meth. It gets those that don't do opioids. Although I suspect that Venn diagram overlaps a bunch.
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Posted 29 December 2018 - 09:16 PM

View PostTraveler, on 28 December 2018 - 06:05 PM, said:

And meth. Don't forget meth. It gets those that don't do opioids. Although I suspect that Venn diagram overlaps a bunch.

You can talk to Heisenberg about that.
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Posted 03 January 2019 - 04:58 PM

Under Trump EPA enforcement is way down. No shock there though the magnitude is a bit staggering. There are graphs that I can't link to in the article.

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Since its founding, the EPA has been the nation’s environmental enforcer of last resort. Enforcing environmental laws is a fundamental role of the EPA. William Ruckelshaus, the agency’s first administrator, famously described its role in environmental enforcement as that of a “gorilla in the closet” – muscular, dexterous, smart and formidable – not omnipresent, but ready to take decisive action to enforce laws if need be.

But the data we have collected show that EPA enforcement under Trump is more accurately characterized as sheep-like – meek and mild, often following the lead of regulated industry rather than acting as an independent, scientifically and statutorily driven regulator. The report is based on interviews with EPA staff and recent retirees and analysis of the EPA’s own data and internal documents. In this article we’ve also used recently updated data and included an expanded analysis of regional and statutory declines.


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The EPA is also imposing fewer fines on environmental law breakers. The EPA imposed civil penalties of $58 million in fiscal year 2018, the lowest since at least 2006 by a wide margin. The average for the period from 2006 to 2017 was $846 million, and the next lowest year (2009) still had $109 million in fines.

Costs for regulated entities to comply with environmental regulations, such as upgrading pollution control equipment, were the lowest they have been in at least 12 years. Compliance costs in 2018 were $3.8 billion, down 81 percent from the previous year, and well below the average of $10.9 billion from 2006 to 2017.

Finally, inspections are also down, which means that the EPA does not know if many facilities are complying with the law, and, further, that next year’s enforcement actions will also be low.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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