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Posted 09 January 2019 - 01:54 AM

View PostAnBr, on 08 January 2019 - 08:57 PM, said:

Someone noted that since the red states receive the lion's share of federal dollars the shutdown will disproportionately affect them.

That'll learn 'em to vote Nazi! Except it won't; they'll blame Hillary or something. LOCK HER UP!!!
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Posted 09 January 2019 - 09:32 AM

View PostJackD, on 08 January 2019 - 10:04 PM, said:

Pretty flat affect in the speech from the Oval Office. Nothing's changed.

Apparently he can only deliver a straight, on-topic speech when:
  • Reading from a teleprompter [1]
  • Tranked to the comb-over.
[1] Wasn't there something about Obama needing a teleprompter?
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Posted 09 January 2019 - 10:10 AM

View PostAnBr, on 08 January 2019 - 08:57 PM, said:

Someone noted that since the red states receive the lion's share of federal dollars the shutdown will disproportionately affect them.

A blinding flash of the obvious:

New York sends billions more to DC than it receives



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New York already sends much more in taxes to federal coffers than it gets back in federal spending, and federal tax law changes for 2018 by the administration of President Donald Trump are unlikely to reverse that.



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Posted 09 January 2019 - 01:28 PM

View PostD. C. Sessions, on 09 January 2019 - 09:32 AM, said:

  • Tranked to the comb-over.


+1000 Whenever he has to deliver a particular message without riffing on it, meds are part of the equation.


Yeah that evil teleprompter told Obama what to say. Trump needs a teleprompter and meds to get him to focus on it.

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:50 PM

POTUS needs a timeout--and maybe his blankey!

Trump walks out on Pelosi and Schumer "total waste of time"
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Posted 09 January 2019 - 11:17 PM

Democratic rebuttal had higher ratings than Trump's address
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Posted 14 January 2019 - 02:57 PM

Polls pretty well slam the POG and its dump. Funny, some 30% blame Dems. Wonder who they are. Well over 50% blame the dump, and the POG. Which means the so called sensible wing of the POG is getting fed up. Our bonds are held since the SBA is shut down. Just a microcosm of what folks across the US are experiencing.
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Posted 15 January 2019 - 03:41 PM

View PostAnBr, on 09 January 2019 - 11:17 PM, said:


Fake news! Trump had the highest ratings ever! Well over 100%!
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 15 January 2019 - 03:43 PM

View Postbaw1064, on 09 January 2019 - 04:50 PM, said:

POTUS needs a timeout--and maybe his blankey!

Trump walks out on Pelosi and Schumer "total waste of time"

View PostTraveler, on 14 January 2019 - 02:57 PM, said:

Polls pretty well slam the POG and its dump. Funny, some 30% blame Dems. Wonder who they are. Well over 50% blame the dump, and the POG. Which means the so called sensible wing of the POG is getting fed up.

From Baw's link Trump again makes it clear that it's his shutdown so Traveler's link shouldn't be a shock.

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"Just left a meeting with Chuck and Nancy, a total waste of time. I asked what is going to happen in 30 days if I quickly open things up, are you going to approve Border Security which includes a Wall or Steel Barrier? Nancy said, NO. I said bye-bye, nothing else works!" Trump said.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

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Posted 15 January 2019 - 06:38 PM

Somebody posted this up on Facebook. They didn't have a link, just cut and pasted, and I'm doing the same. I thought it summed things up very well.

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A quick civics lesson:

Just before the government shutdown began, the Senate, led by Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (a Republican) overwhelmingly passed a bipartisan bill that would have kept the government open.

The then-Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (a Republican) refused to allow the House to even vote on that bill knowing it would likely pass with a veto-proof majority.

For those who might not know, if a president vetoes a bill, if two-thirds of both the House and the Senate vote against that president’s veto, they can override it, thus enacting that bill.

That’s called “checks and balances,” a key component our Founding Fathers put into our Constitution.

Fast forward a few weeks to when Democrats took power in the House of Representatives. They passed essentially the same exact veto-proof bill the Senate had overwhelmingly approved just a couple of weeks earlier that would reopen the government.

Only now, the same Sen. McConnell who let the passage of that bill before, won’t allow the Senate to vote on it — because he knows it would pass, thus forcing Trump to veto it, which would embarrass the party and expose their incompetence.

Keep in mind, this all centers around a lie Trump repeatedly told during his campaign (and even now) that Mexico was going to pay for his stupid wall, a wall he now wants the American taxpayer to fund.

Republicans controlled all of Congress and the White House for the past two years. If funding this wall was such a major issue, they would have done it — they didn’t. Repeatedly, his own party refused to pass spending bills that gave Trump money for that pointless wall.

This isn’t about border security, no matter how many time Trump tells that lie. This is about his ego and his pathetic attempt to distract people from the constantly-growing list of scandals, legal troubles, and embarrassing administration departures he’s been dealing with over the last several weeks.

If our government was functioning how our Founding Fathers meant for it to, our government would have never shut down.

First it was a Republican, Paul Ryan, refusing to let the House vote on the bill the Senate passed. Now it’s hypocritical Sen. Mitch McConnell, a Republican, doing the same thing with the recently-passed House bill.

Two frauds who refused to allow a bill to be voted on to keep the government open/reopen it, not because they opposed it, but because they were afraid it would pass and embarrass their party’s “president.”

This is not how democracy works. This is not how our government is supposed to work.

Donald Trump and the GOP are the only ones to blame for this political stunt.

AUTHOR: Allen Clifton..

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer





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