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#21 D. C. Sessions

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 03:27 PM

View PostTraveler, on 20 December 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

Can this non signing be overridden like a veto? That would be rich if Ryan had to get Dem votes to override.

Be serious. Can you really imagine Trump passing up a chance to veto a bill on live TV?
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Posted 20 December 2018 - 03:44 PM

View Postpnwguy, on 20 December 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

Get more butter for the popcorn

Looks like the Tangerine Terror wants to go green like the Grinch. Will the GOP legislators in NoClueVille still sing, when their Christmas is stolen?

Trump has never understood the concept of "you have to give somethin' to get somethin'" ... unless the thing given didn't cost him anything.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 04:41 PM

View PostLFC, on 19 December 2018 - 11:09 AM, said:

In Kansas 3 formerly Republican state legislators have chosen to start the new legislative session as Democrats. They've had enough.

The tide may not have finished turning in Kansas yet. It really comes down to one thing; only the Democrats are interested in actual policy. Kansas is the same as we see at the federal level.

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Kansas House Minority Leader Jim Ward (D) said that, in addition to the three lawmakers who defected from the Republican Party in recent days, the Democratic leadership is eyeing “three or four” more lawmakers who might be compelled to flip.

“We’re not done,” Ward told TPM on Wednesday. “We’re gonna continue to recruit.”

Ward attributes the party change of state Sens. Barbara Bollier and Dinah Sykes and Rep. Stephanie Clayton to two main factors: the inhospitality of the Republican Party and the leftward political shift of the districts they represent.

He said that the three women, “policy wonks, pragmatic types,” were turned off by the GOP’s role in a court battle to get sufficient funding for K-12 public education, objection to Medicaid expansion and routine blocking of bills from the floor.

“The Republican Party was obstructing every step,” he said.

He added that the three women live in districts that are getting progressively Democratic. “Their districts moved away from Republicans, period,” he said, adding that in 2018, Democrats claimed “significant wins against very strong, entrenched, popular, moderate Republicans,” which likely spooked the three centrist former-Republicans.

Ward said that with the remaining possibly flippable lawmakers, the question remains whether their districts are trending as aggressively Democratic.

“The big factor is if their districts would support them after changing [parties],” he said. “With the people we’re looking at now, that’s the argument we have to make to carry them.”

But, as Ward pointed out, the three defections the Democrats already secured are significant wins. “This is just like Christmas,” he said. “Even if we get no more, this is a fabulous post-election recruitment.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 05:42 PM

View PostLFC, on 20 December 2018 - 03:44 PM, said:

Trump has never understood the concept of "you have to give somethin' to get somethin'" ... unless the thing given didn't cost him anything.

Even then -- are you sure?
The way a lot of catastrophes happen is that X doesn't occur because there are safeguards in place, therefore people assume X isn't a worry and they remove the safeguards. Then X happens.
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"Robots aren't the problem. Capitalism is." -- Last words of Stephen Hawking.
These days, "libertarian" is just a euphemism for a Nazi who's afraid to commit.
"If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention." -- Heather Heyer
"I'd rather have my child, but by golly, if I gotta give her up, we're gonna make it count." -- Her mother
"Your purpose, then, plainly stated, is that you will destroy the Government, unless you be allowed to construe and enforce the Constitution as you please, on all points in dispute between you and us. You will rule or ruin in all events." -- some RINO

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 03:21 PM

Another Republican state legislator, this time in California, has had enough and has become a Democrat. There's no place for sane people in the GOP anymore.

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Just last month, three Kansas state lawmakers took the unusual step of swapping party affiliation: all three from Republicans to Democrats.

Now, California assemblyman Brian Maienschein is following suit.

Maienschein announced his decision at a press conference Thursday surrounded by his elated new peers.

“As the Republican Party has drifted further right, I and my votes have shifted to the left,” he said, per the Sacramento Bee. “I can either keep fighting to change the Republican party, or I can fight for my constituents.”

He put some of the onus on President Donald Trump.

“His conduct has been very offensive really since the beginning,” he said. “His conduct was reprehensible, immature, counterproductive to what I believed was best for the country.”

Per the Bee, Democrats now enjoy a whopping 61 of the 80 seats in the California Assembly.

The chief justice of the California Supreme Court, Tani Cantil-Sakauye, also made the leap last month, though she switched her affiliation from Republican to no-party-preference.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 08:52 PM

Rats from a sinking ship.
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Posted 28 January 2019 - 12:45 PM

The latest civil war is now Ann Coulter vs. Newt Gingrich, two thoroughly despicable people who thoroughly despise each other.

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Right-wing provocateur Ann Coulter attacked former House Speaker Newt Gingrich on Monday after Gingrich advised the President not to listen to Coulter and said she was preventing Trump from making progress on immigration legislation.

“He should not pay any attention to Ann Counter,” Gingrich told “Fox and Friends” Monday morning, after co-host Brian Kilmeade mentioned that Trump was worried about losing the support of “extreme conservatives, the Ann Coulters of the world.”

“Ann Coulter’s never run for office,” Gingrich continued. “She doesn’t know anything about how you put a majority together. She’s off here on some fantasyland where she gets to be noisy, which helps her sell books.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 04:11 PM

Did you bring the popcorn?"
Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

— Carl Sagan
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
1995


“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

— H.L. Mencken
On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

— Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Second inaugural address January, 1937

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 09:32 AM

This guy didn't get the memo about falling in line and now Trump and the RNC are talking about getting rid of him. And he's not the only one. This ain't a Tea Party primarying, this is the establishment. Is any more evidence needed that the GOP is now the party of Trump?

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President Donald Trump has discussed with Vice President Mike Pence, Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) and RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel the possibility of backing a primary challenge to Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) as a warning to any other Republicans who consider turning on him.

According to Politico, some of Trump’s aides are skeptical that Amash will even run again. The congressman removed himself from the Freedom Caucus this week, of which he was a founder, saying that he didn’t want to become a “distraction” for the group.

Trump also has his sights set on Rep. Will Hurd (R-TX), who has been a vocal critic of Trump’s immigration policies, and on Sen. Thom Tillis (R-NC), who supported legislation to protect special counsel Robert Mueller and initially opposed the emergency declaration.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 10:20 AM

View PostLFC, on 12 June 2019 - 09:32 AM, said:

This guy didn't get the memo about falling in line and now Trump and the RNC are talking about getting rid of him. And he's not the only one. This ain't a Tea Party primarying, this is the establishment. Is any more evidence needed that the GOP is now the party of Trump?

Amash wasn't a particularly successful Congressperson. He came in to get rid of Obamacare. That didn't happen. Perhaps he'll run for president on the Libertarian ticket. After which he'll write a tell all book about his bravery in calling for impeachment and then get on some network somewhere as the "conservative" pundit.





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