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The death of Christianity in the U.S.


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#161 AnBr

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 06:24 PM

View PostBeelzebuddy, on 18 May 2019 - 10:18 AM, said:

This is why I left the faith.

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Posted 21 May 2019 - 04:24 PM

Child abuse or religious belief? Sounds like both to me. The call is morality, I call it sickness.

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The so-called “purity” culture in the Christian evangelical community has made millions for churches and Christian swag manufacturers. However, it’s been harming millions of teens across the country who made a vow of chastity before marriage.

Statistics reveal that 85 percent of men and 81 percent of women have sex prior to marriage, so the numbers aren’t looking good for the church. For those who made the pledge but fell short of the goal, damaging implications have followed, The Christian Post reported.

“Amid the rise of the #MeToo movement paired with reports of sex abuse within the Church, individuals whose lives were shaped by purity culture began to push back,” the report said. “They shared stories of how some of the more problematic aspects of the movement, though well-intentioned, caused them to have an unhealthy relationship with religion, relationships, and sex.”

Cait West revealed her upbringing in Christian patriarchy where women were to be submissive to male house-heads. Female children were not allowed to date unless it was a courtship seeking marriage. She recalled being “shamed for normal adolescent curiosity.” Any sexual thoughts meant she was basically fornicating.

“Dating was never an option,” she told The Christian Post in an interview. “I was never taught about sex or sexuality at all. I remember asking my parents, testing the waters, ‘What’s this about?’ And they brushed it aside. I was never allowed to explore or ask questions, so I never thought of myself as a sexual being because of that.”

She learned that women being sexual beings were bad. They weren’t allowed to be sexual. Everything was tied to shame. Even clothing had to be approved by her father, who would gauge the “modesty” of the outfit.

“My father would come to the store with me and judge everything I had on,” she said. “That overt male gaze judging my clothing throughout my adolescence and into my 20’s really shaped how I thought of myself because I never thought who I was from my perspective.”

That shame then turned to anxiety. It wasn’t until she left the faith at 25 that she began to explore the emotional damage that had been done. She called it “emotional, physical and spiritual trauma.”

“I felt very disconnected from my own body because I was never taught about the sexual part of me,” she said. “I didn’t want to think about my own body or explore my own sexuality because it was a dirty part of me I wasn’t allowed to explore. It made me feel weird about living in my own body, and I didn’t realize just how much I hated my own body until I left the movement.”

As a spouse, she now struggles to think of sex as something intimate for partners and not purely for procreation.

“I’ve had a lot of trouble with disassociation in sexually intimate moments because it’s too much for me to be present in my own body because it feels bad,” she explained. “For years, you’re told something is bad — and then suddenly you get married and you’re supposed to be OK with it. It was like I was trained not to have that part of me turned on or be aware of things.”

“I’ve been working through that process of figuring out what those toxic messages were and re-train myself to have agency,” she added.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 21 May 2019 - 04:33 PM

Another paragon of Christianist morality and one who was in Trump's club of the self-righteous.

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A former member of President Donald Trump’s evangelical advisory board is under investigation for allegedly trying to hire a hitman to murder his former son-in-law.

James MacDonald, founder of Harvest Bible Chapel, was accused by his former bodyguard Emmanuel “Manny” Bucur and Chicago radio personality Mancow Muller of seeking someone to kill former son-in-law Tony Groves, reported independent journalist Julie Roys.

Muller claims MacDonald, who was fired in February from the megachurch he founded, asked him at least twice last year if he knew someone to hire as a hitman, which the broadcaster initially took as a joke but came to realize after talking in December that the pastor was serious.

Bucur, the pastor’s volunteer bodyguard and a deacon at the church, claims MacDonald asked him in 2015 to kill Graves and offered to help dispose of the remains.

He didn’t initially report MacDonald’s request because he was upset the pastor’s daughter had been hurt, and thought perhaps it was just a temporary lapse in judgment.

Bucur said MacDonald asked him to kill Graves while they were on a motorcycle trip to Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky, along with other senior church leaders.

Over breakfast at a restaurant in nearby Indiana, MacDonald asked the bodyguard to “take Tony out” as he searched pornographic websites for material he believed his son-in-law may have uploaded of his daughter.

“Are you asking me what I think you’re asking me?” Bucur recalled asking.

MacDonald confirmed the request, but Bucur refused and asked the pastor to drop the topic and never speak of it again.

Muller said he filed a police report near his Wilmette, Illinois, home and said he’s terrified of MacDonald — whom he called “dangerous” and fears has targeted him.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer





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