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#101 Probabilistic

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 09:41 AM

 LFC, on 29 August 2018 - 08:23 AM, said:

The best description I heard for this was "their relationship with Trump is transactional." I'm not Biblical scholar but I don't remember the Book of Transactions. Was that in the Old or the New Testament?

Bloody hell! The whole idea of religion is a Trumpian transaction. You sing my praises and obey, you get to go to heaven, OR ELSE...

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Posted 18 September 2018 - 05:15 PM

It's past time to revoke the tax free status of churches that engage in politics. Of course Republicans want to open their ability to spread tax free propaganda wide open and it's nowhere more obvious than in the Trump administration.

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resident Donald Trump’s spiritual advisor Paula White and Terri Copeland Pearsons, eldest daughter of Kenneth Copeland, told the congregation at Eagle Mountain International Church to “vote red.”

Her comment was a violation of the Johnson Amendment which is a provision in the U.S. tax code that “prohibits all 501©(3) non-profit organizations from endorsing or opposing political candidates.”

“We’re going to vote for the team that will most press that agenda through because it’s the judges that have brought so much of the ungodliness into our nation,” Pearsons said.

“You see the hand of God in all this,” White said.

She added that California passed a law, “That says the Bible is a book of hate speech and to ban the sale of it.”

Pearsons then continued: “Vote red. I can say that to you without any fear that the IRS is going to take away your right to donate to this church and deduct it from your taxes and without you being audited because of it. That’s over and that’s because our president did that for us.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 19 September 2018 - 07:28 AM

An unlike.
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Posted 03 October 2018 - 02:49 PM

White Evangelicals are the only major religious group left in America with a majority backing Trump. It's complete and total moral bankruptcy.

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Even after a politically stormy summer, white evangelical support for Donald Trump has remained strong.

Trump’s standing among white evangelicals has remained virtually unchanged at 71 percent, according to a recent Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) poll conducted in late August and early September.

The results follow a summer marked by crisis after crisis, from Trump’s controversial unpopular directive to separate migrant families to his controversial meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin to the defection of Trump’s longtime lawyer and fixer, Michael Cohen, who now says Trump ordered an illegal payoff to Stormy Daniels, the porn actress who claims to have had an affair with Donald Trump.

In April, 75 percent of white evangelicals told PRRI they viewed his presidency favorably, an all-time high since the inauguration. Eighty-one percent of white evangelicals voted for Trump in the 2016 presidential election.

White evangelicals remain the only religious group in America to view Trump favorably according to the poll. While white mainline Protestants — which include historically progressive denominations like Episcopalians and Presbyterians — remain about evenly split over Trump, other religious demographics overwhelmingly say they view his presidency negatively. Fifty-nine percent of Catholics and a full 75 percent of black Protestants view Trump negatively, as do 65 percent of the religiously unaffiliated.

What all these numbers suggest is that Trump’s actions — positive or negative — will continue to have very little effect on the opinions of actual voters. In particular, there appears to be very little Trump can do to alienate his white evangelical base, who have continued to support him en masse.

Even this summer’s family separation crisis — during which several prominent evangelical leaders, including the usually pro-Trump Franklin Graham, spoke forcefully against Trump’s family separation policy — seems to have done little to ameliorate Trump’s base’s affection for him.

In fact, PRRI CEO Robert Jones told me, religious groups have remained remarkably consistent when it comes to their stance on Trump throughout his administration. “You might think with as many different revelations and controversies coming out of this administration, there might be some great shuffling of the board, but ... the support or opposition to Trump among religious groups has remained largely steady since the inauguration.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 03:47 PM

 LFC, on 03 October 2018 - 02:49 PM, said:

Long Live The Golden Calf
"All glory to the HypnoTrump, or else..."

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 05:58 PM

White evangelicals = drooling idiots. I have nothing but contempt for them.
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Posted 09 October 2018 - 10:37 AM

I wonder when they will be cutting palm fronds to lay in front of his presidential motorcade
"All glory to the HypnoTrump, or else..."

"It all makes sense when you remind yourself that the GOP is no longer a political party but turned into an organized crime family"

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Posted 09 October 2018 - 03:40 PM

 pnwguy, on 09 October 2018 - 10:37 AM, said:


Does that mean we can look forward to a good crucifixion?
Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

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The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
1995


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 03:59 PM

 AnBr, on 09 October 2018 - 03:40 PM, said:



Does that mean we can look forward to a good crucifixion?
I had thought the same thing. But we don’t want a resurrection cult to spring up around him. “It’s says in 1st Ivanka chapter 6, verse 22-24 that the Fake News spake poorly of His glory and did not seek his wisdom. And thus he prophecied that his followers would take up the AR-15 in righteousness to smite all liberal unbelievers”
"All glory to the HypnoTrump, or else..."

"It all makes sense when you remind yourself that the GOP is no longer a political party but turned into an organized crime family"

"I hope to live long enough that the name Trump is reviled as much as the name Hitler or Stalin"

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 06:24 AM

Good one!
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Posted 17 November 2018 - 11:33 PM

Christianists continue to whore themselves out for the worldly power of politics.

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A Texas pastor is reacting with rage to the result of the midterm elections, in which Republicans lost control of the House of Representatives.

Following the election, Pastor Ed Young said the Democratic Party is “basically godless,” in a rant about the results, reports the Forth Worth Star-Telegram.

The Democratic Party is “some kind of religion that is basically godless,” Young reportedly said.

Young said all Democrats are evil.

“This is represented by every Democrat I know,” he said. “God will not bless America or make us a great nation.”

The Star-Telegram said Young’s comments were not unique.

“The leader of the Houston-based Texas Pastor Council, Republican anti-LGBT rights activist Dave Welch, wrote in a Friday commentary that Young is right — secular Democrats are a ‘godless party’ that embraces legal abortion and ‘moral anarchy,’” the paper reports.

Bob Long, a pastor that leads prayers at the Texas Capitol, said that before the election he had a vision of a demonic attack by “supernatural evil.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 17 November 2018 - 11:55 PM

Somebody needs to be paid off with 40 pieces of silver.
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Posted 26 November 2018 - 01:47 PM

Franklin Graham, one of Christianism's top whores, continues to publicly debase himself for Trump.

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hristian Evangelist Franklin Graham, under fire for his hypocritical, intense defense of President Donald Trump, spoke with Axios to defend himself on Sunday.

Despite President Trump’s extramarital affairs – including one allegedly with a porn star – despite his bragging about sexual assault, despite his clear lack of familiarity with the Christian Bible, and despite the policies and behaviors he champions daily, Graham gave one reason for his defense of the President.

“Now people say, ‘Well Frank, but how can you defend him, when he’s lived such a sordid life?'” Graham told Axios on HBO. “I never said he was the best example of the Christian faith. He defends the faith. And I appreciate that very much.”

Rod Dreher is moving towards this line of thinking whoring too. He recently wrote that he's considering voting for Trump to get more right-wing SCOTUS justices who will defend his religion which is apparently under constant assault and will be obliterated if the libruls win. Yeah, Dreher has lost it pretty badly.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 26 November 2018 - 01:55 PM

You're still reading Dreher? At first I believed he was thoughtful. After reading the book about his sister and again after Obergefell I saw he is driven by some sort of psychological issues that cause him to want to alternately retreat or lash out at the world that isn't running in a way that makes him feel safe.

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Posted 26 November 2018 - 02:02 PM

 golden_valley, on 26 November 2018 - 01:55 PM, said:

You're still reading Dreher? At first I believed he was thoughtful. After reading the book about his sister and again after Obergefell I saw he is driven by some sort of psychological issues that cause him to want to alternately retreat or lash out at the world that isn't running in a way that makes him feel safe.

I read some (not all) of his stuff at TAC ... where Larison is truly the only one worth reading. The comments can be very good and informative.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 11:05 AM

Of Americans, Evangelicals Are Least Likely To Feel Obligated To Help Refugees
Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

— Carl Sagan
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
1995


“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

— H.L. Mencken
On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

— Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Second inaugural address January, 1937

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 11:25 AM

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Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

— Carl Sagan
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
1995


“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

— H.L. Mencken
On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

— Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Second inaugural address January, 1937

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 10:01 AM

 AnBr, on 09 October 2018 - 03:40 PM, said:

Does that mean we can look forward to a good crucifixion?
What if he faked the crucifixion and was resurrected? Son of God Trump!
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Posted 01 February 2019 - 10:53 AM

Sounds like the Evangelicals are going to have a collective orgasm while listening to the SOTU address. This and the ability to discriminate at will is literally all they care about.

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During his State of the Union address on Tuesday evening, President Trump plans to invigorate his most conservative, evangelical supporters by incorporating anti-abortion language into his speech, Politico reported.

The plan to spotlight abortion follows criticism the President faced after his decision to temporarily cave to Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and reopen the government without his wall funding.

According to four people familiar with the speech plans who spoke to Politico, the Trump administration also believes the rhetoric could grab the attention of some moderate voters who are dismayed by New York’s new abortion law that allows for later term abortions — post the 24-week mark — for health risk reasons.

“The president wants to reaffirm his commitment to pro-life things,” a Republican close to Trump told Politico.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 11:21 AM

 LFC, on 01 February 2019 - 10:53 AM, said:

Sounds like the Evangelicals are going to have a collective orgasm while listening to the SOTU address. This and the ability to discriminate at will is literally all they care about.

Word is that New York allow abortion the day before birth, whatever that means. It does allow abortion after 24 weeks if woman and doctor conclude it is necessary to protect the health of the mother.





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