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Posted 18 April 2019 - 03:44 PM

Kim continues to jerk the Trump administration around. Now he's kicking Pompeo to the curb. To be fair and knowing Pompeo I wouldn't be surprised if this was actually a perfectly reasonable position.

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North Korea said Thursday that it had test-fired a new type of “tactical guided weapon,” its first such test in nearly half a year, and demanded that Washington remove Secretary of State Mike Pompeo from nuclear negotiations.

The test, which didn’t appear to be of a banned mid- or long-range ballistic missile that could scuttle negotiations, allows North Korea to show its people it is pushing ahead with weapons development while also reassuring domestic military officials worried that diplomacy with Washington signals weakness.

Separately, the North Korean Foreign Ministry accused Pompeo of playing down the significance of comments by leader Kim Jong Un, who said last week that Washington has until the end of the year to offer mutually acceptable terms for an agreement to salvage the high-stakes nuclear diplomacy. Both the demand for Pompeo’s removal from the talks and the weapon test point to North Korea’s displeasure with the deadlocked negotiations.

In a statement issued under the name of Kwon Jong Gun, director general of the American Affairs Department at the Foreign Ministry, North Korea accused Pompeo of “talking nonsense” and misrepresenting Kim’s comments.

During a speech at Texas A&M on Monday, Pompeo said Kim promised to denuclearize during his first summit with President Donald Trump and that U.S. officials were working with the North Koreans to “chart a path forward so we can get there.”

“He (Kim) said he wanted it done by the end of the year,” Pompeo said. “I’d love to see that done sooner.”

The North Korean statement said Pompeo was “misrepresenting the meaning of our requirement” for the negotiations to be finalized by the year’s end, and referred to his “talented skill of fabricating stories.” It said Pompeo’s continued participation in the negotiations would ensure that the talks become “entangled” and called for a different counterpart who is “more careful and mature in communicating with us.”

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 04:49 AM

Just from your brief extract from the diplomatic exchange, LFC, it looks like the NK diplomatic team wiping the floor with Pompeo and his bunch, simply by employing elementary diplomatic techniques and speaking English[1].

[1] Pompeo, John Bolton and Nikki Haley (to name but three) can and could all speak English. But Trump can't, and so they are prevented from doing so because translating as little as five words of Trumpspeak into English reveals it as bilge and gets the translator fired.
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Posted 19 April 2019 - 09:14 AM

View PostRich T Bikkies, on 19 April 2019 - 04:49 AM, said:

[1] Pompeo, John Bolton and Nikki Haley (to name but three) can and could all speak English. But Trump can't, and so they are prevented from doing so because translating as little as five words of Trumpspeak into English reveals it as bilge and gets the translator fired.

They can but Pompeo and Bolton choose not to. They verbally thump their chests and fling poop. Haley? She's ambitious but not smart enough to realize that she was jumping into a job that she was neither qualified for nor had the remotest chance of being successful at with a tantrum throwing idiot for a president. At one time I thought she might have something that could help her stand out of the frothing pack of morons. Now I see her pretty much like Lindsey Graham. They both have a moral flexibility that is not well hidden though Graham is still the master of sycophancy for money. (Nunes was a sycophant from the get-go so he doesn't get the hypocrisy points Graham has earned.)
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Posted 19 April 2019 - 11:48 AM

I still think Haley has a modicum of good sense and propriety. She got out and has kept her head down ever since. Of course her way to future higher elected office is not through Trump and she quickly realized that staying in his administration would probably hurt her in the long run.

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 12:00 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 19 April 2019 - 11:48 AM, said:

I still think Haley has a modicum of good sense and propriety. She got out and has kept her head down ever since. Of course her way to future higher elected office is not through Trump and she quickly realized that staying in his administration would probably hurt her in the long run.

She stayed in and was Trump's parrot way too long. Here's Larison's take. It isn't generous.
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Posted 19 April 2019 - 12:05 PM

View PostLFC, on 19 April 2019 - 12:00 PM, said:

She stayed in and was Trump's parrot way too long. Here's Larison's take. It isn't generous.

A "modicum" refers only to her getting out of the situation, not to her performance. Thanks for the Larison cite. I've stopped going to TAC because it's infected with Dreher posts.

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Posted 24 April 2019 - 02:10 PM

Trump the Chump has been played again, this time by both Kim and Vlad!

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Smiling and upbeat, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un on Wednesday stepped off his khaki-green armored train in far-eastern Russia for a much-anticipated summit with President Vladimir Putin that comes amid deadlocked diplomacy on his nuclear program.

Kim, dressed in a black coat and a fedora, first met with Russian officials at Russia’s Khasan train station near its border with the North, before traveling on to the Pacific port city of Vladivostok for a summit with Putin on Thursday.

Speaking to Russia’s state-owned Rossiya-24, Kim said that he is hoping for a “successful and useful” visit and would like to discuss with Putin the “settlement of the situation in the Korean Peninsula” as well as bilateral ties with Russia.

Kim sat down with local officials as well as a Russian deputy foreign minister in Khasan before traveling on. It was his first visit to Russia as North Korean leader; his late father, Kim Jong Il, visited in 2011.

“I have heard a lot about your country and have long dreamt of visiting it,” Kim was quoted as saying. “It’s been seven years since I took the helm, and I’ve only just managed to visit.”

Kim evoked his father’s “great love for Russia” and said that he intends to strengthen the ties between the two countries.


Looks like Donny was jilted by two of his love interests.
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Posted 25 April 2019 - 03:14 PM

Trump's administration promised to pay $2 Million for medical bills before North Korea released Otto Warmbier.

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The White House declined to comment. “We do not comment on hostage negotiations, which is why they have been so successful during this administration,” White House press secretary Sarah Sanders wrote in an email.

Trump, as recently as Sept. 30, asserted that his administration paid “nothing” to get American “hostages” out of North Korea.

Not clear if anything was ever paid...maybe the result of Trump's negotiating style? Promise but not deliver? But what about "we do not negotiate with hostage takers", a standard American tough guy routine?

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Posted 25 April 2019 - 03:25 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 25 April 2019 - 03:14 PM, said:

Not clear if anything was ever paid...maybe the result of Trump's negotiating style? Promise but not deliver? But what about "we do not negotiate with hostage takers", a standard American tough guy routine?
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Posted 25 April 2019 - 03:38 PM

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That's The Art Of The Deal. Make sure to stiff people on any deal you make. Especially playmates and porn stars (assuming you can still get it stiff...)

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 10:32 AM

North Korea performs short-range missile tests. Trump still clings to his fantasy.

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North Korea has confirmed via state media that leader Kim Jong-un has overseen a "strike drill" testing various missile components.

"A number of short-range projectiles" were also fired from the Hodo peninsula into the Sea of Japan on Saturday.

North Korea's leader gave the order of firing to "increase the combat ability" of the country, the announcement said.

US President Donald Trump tweeted he believed Mr Kim would not jeopardise the path towards better relations.

He added that the North Korean leader "knows that I am with him & does not want to break his promise to me. Deal will happen!

"I believe that Kim Jong-Un fully realises the great economic potential of North Korea and will do nothing to interfere or end it," Mr Trump posted on social media on Saturday.

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 10:24 AM

Apparently Kim Jong Un wasn't pleased with the way the last summit with Trump went. I guess this is the North Korean version of a bad job review.

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North Korea executed its former top nuclear envoy to the U.S. and four other foreign ministry officials in March after a failed summit between Kim Jong Un and Donald Trump, South Korea’s Chosun Ilbo newspaper reported.

Kim Hyok Chol, who led working-level negotiations for the February summit in Hanoi, was executed by firing squad after being charged with espionage after allegedly being co-opted by the U.S., the newspaper said Friday, citing an unidentified source. The move was part of an internal purge Kim undertook after the summit broke down without any deal, it said.

Speculation has swirled for months about the fate of Kim Hyok Chol, who hasn’t received any recent mentions in state media dispatches. Previous South Korean media reports about senior North Korean officials being executed following the talks have proven false.

Kim Jong Un’s top aide Kim Yong Chol, who was also involved in the summit, is reportedly undergoing hard labor, according to the Chosun Ilbo report.


Trump: "You're fired!"

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 11:54 AM

View PostLFC, on 31 May 2019 - 10:24 AM, said:

Apparently Kim Jong Un wasn't pleased with the way the last summit with Trump went. I guess this is the North Korean version of a bad job review.




Trump: "You're fired!"

Kim: "FIRE!"

I'm watching that story, too. However, although I am completely prepared to believe it is true, I have not yet seen it corroborated as fact. It would not be out of character for Kim, but this report comes from a single anonymous South Korean source and has not yet (to my uncertain knowledge) been confirmed by anybody. So I want to be very careful about jumping too hard on it. Of course, even if it turned out to be false there is nothing that could make Kim actually look good to any objective observer, but practically speaking no such observers exist. There are many, many people easily swayed by argumentum ad logicam.

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:48 PM

View PostMSheridan, on 31 May 2019 - 11:54 AM, said:

I'm watching that story, too. However, although I am completely prepared to believe it is true, I have not yet seen it corroborated as fact. It would not be out of character for Kim, but this report comes from a single anonymous South Korean source and has not yet (to my uncertain knowledge) been confirmed by anybody. So I want to be very careful about jumping too hard on it. Of course, even if it turned out to be false there is nothing that could make Kim actually look good to any objective observer, but practically speaking no such observers exist. There are many, many people easily swayed by argumentum ad logicam.

I agree. The truthfulness (or lack thereof) of this story wouldn't push my needle on what I think of Kim even the tiniest bit.
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Posted 05 June 2019 - 04:01 PM

Larison reports on H.R. McMaster. Remember that this guy was supposed to be one of the "adults in the room." Every time we examine one of them they don't measure up to the term.

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Former National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster now works for the poorly-named Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), and in his new position he is back once again to talking up the virtues of preparing for preventive war against North Korea:

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McMaster says the U.S. needs to “prepare for at least the option of the use of military force” to convince Kim to denuclearize.


To adapt Bismarck’s famous quote about preventive war, McMaster is saying that we should prepare for the option of suicide for fear of death. Nothing would be less likely to convince Kim to “denuclearize” than launching an attack on his country. Even preparing such an attack in attempt to scare him would convince him that he must keep his nuclear deterrent no matter what. It turns out that threatening to destroy someone causes him to seek the means to protect himself against attack. Since North Korea already has nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them, preparing for an attack on North Korea amounts to laying the groundwork for the unnecessary deaths of millions of people. TAC contributor Harry Kazianis commented on the report over the weekend:

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So H.R. MacMaster is still talking about the U.S. using military force on #NorthKorea. I have spent about 2,000 hours in computer simulations of what this looks like. Millions died—in every SINGLE scanerio. Seoul is nearly destroyed in all of them. Fool.

— Harry Kazianis (@GrecianFormula) June 2, 2019


No wonder former Secretary Mattis reportedly called McMaster unstable said that the then-National Security Advisor was going to get us all killed. It speaks volumes about both him and FDD that he is still indulging the insane idea of an attack on North Korea more than a year since he left government service.

McMaster was also quoted as saying that it is “difficult to overstate the threat from a nuclear North Korea,” but he seems determined to try. No doubt his new employer is encouraging all of his worst, threat-inflating instincts, but McMaster wouldn’t be at FDD now if he hadn’t already been like that before. This is a useful reminder that every one of Trump’s National Security Advisors has been a menace in different ways, and all of them have been incorrigibly hawkish and reckless in their views about the use of force.


More on McMaster. This guy sounds almost as nutty on North Korea as Bolton is on Iran. We've just swapped maniacs.

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Daniel DePetris follows up on McMaster’s crazy North Korea comments:

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McMaster then proceeds to mount a hypothetical—nuclear blackmail. “This regime could say [if U.S. forces] don’t go off the Korean Peninsula, we’re going to threaten the use of nuclear weapons,” the retired general explained. And yet this, too, is riddled with nonsense, the biggest objection being that making such an ultimatum would court the very military confrontation with the United States he wants to avoid.

When McMaster was in the Trump administration, he floated many of the same arguments about why attacking North Korea should be an option. Those arguments didn’t make any sense when he made them as National Security Advisor, and they haven’t improved now that he has migrated to the inaccurately named Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD). McMaster’s latest statements confirm that his preventive war talk wasn’t just empty rhetoric on his part when he worked for Trump. He was apparently deadly serious about entertaining a U.S. attack on North Korea, and he continues to talk about it as though it were a reasonable and legitimate policy option. The reporting that he and others in the administration had a “messianic fervor” about this seems to have been right.

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 04:33 PM

Traitor Trump once again sides with a dictator over our nation's own intelligence agencies.

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Here’s a fascinating and disturbing part of Trump’s impromptu presser early this afternoon. It got less play than the Biden trash talk or the Mexico “secret agreement.” You had to know the backstory, which I didn’t, to even understand what was being said. Yesterday, The Wall Street Journal reported that Kim Jong Un’s half-brother, Kim Jong Nam was a CIA source. This Kim was assassinated by poison in 2017 in Malaysia, by all accounts by the North Korean government. He had lived in exile for a number of years. Trump got asked about this and he responded by pledging to Kim Jong Un that he would not allow the CIA to spy in this way “under my auspices.”

In essence he was pledging not to spy on North Korea and arguably apologizing for whatever relationship the CIA had with Kim Jon Nam.

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Posted 02 July 2019 - 11:38 AM

Uh, oh. Hannity is going to be jealous.

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President Donald Trump brought Fox News host Tucker Carlson to North Korea on Sunday instead of his own national security adviser, John Bolton.

Several journalists reported seeing Carlson on the sidelines of Trump’s historic visit to the the demilitarized zone separating North and South Korea, and the hosts of “Fox & Friends” confirmed Carlson was there during a phone interview with him.

Meanwhile, Bolton was shipped off to Mongolia over the weekend.

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Posted 02 July 2019 - 12:10 PM

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Posted 02 July 2019 - 12:43 PM

View PostLFC, on 02 July 2019 - 11:38 AM, said:


Does Tucker Carlson have any security clearance at all? And then there's Ivanka. Why are they traveling with diplomats (Pompeo in job title only)? And didn't the North Korean government say they were never going to deal with Pompeo ever again?

I know this was a photo op only, but who knows what was discussed behind the scenes or on the copter or plane to or from the DMZ.

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 10:24 PM

Dumpster was in NoKo with Kim to get tips on reviewing a military parade and how to sport a killer haircut in the reviewing stand.

"You need more missile launchers for the parade. You can have “Tehran Special” or "Caracas Cargo" stenciled on some of them. Maybe a line of Latin America asylum seeking children in a chain gang, marching for toilet water"

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