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#361 golden_valley

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 11:12 AM

Where is the love? Missile testing and now:

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North Korea has also threatened to pull out of denuclearization talks with the United States if the military exercises go ahead, claiming that they would break a promise made by Trump to Kim Jong Un when the two leaders met at the demilitarized zone between the two Koreas at the end of June.

Or maybe Trump didn't get the message to stop South Korea from using F35 As and to stop the military exercises there.

On the other hand, Trump got this message:

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Scott Snyder, a Korea expert at the Council on Foreign Relations, said Trump’s subdued response to last week’s launches has given Pyongyang no incentive to stop testing.

“President Trump has said he is not bothered by it, so why not?” he said. “North Korea is normalizing the idea that they can continue testing below a certain threshold.”




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Posted 31 July 2019 - 12:05 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 31 July 2019 - 11:12 AM, said:

Where is the love? Missile testing and now:

Remember just a few short months ago when Trump's marching morons were pointing to the lack of missile tests to a great success?
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Posted 31 July 2019 - 01:12 PM

marching morons. Nice.
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Posted 31 July 2019 - 02:52 PM

View PostTraveler, on 31 July 2019 - 01:12 PM, said:

marching morons. Nice.
Alas, this piece hit my brain almost immediately:

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 05:16 PM

View PostTraveler, on 31 July 2019 - 01:12 PM, said:

marching morons. Nice.

A little more than just that, it is a solution, too. https://en.wikipedia...Marching_Morons
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Posted 23 August 2019 - 05:11 PM

Larison writes that North Korea has had enough of Pompeo.

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It appears that North Korea has had just about all the swagger it can stomach:

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North Korea’s foreign minister on Friday called U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo a “poisonous plant of American diplomacy” who hampers efforts to restart nuclear negotiations.

Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho made the insult to protest Pompeo’s comments in a media interview that Washington will maintain crippling sanctions on North Korea unless it denuclearizes.

This is not the first time that North Korean officials have denounced Pompeo, but it represents another clear rejection of the current U.S. position of trying to compel North Korean disarmament without offering them anything. The full North Korean statement can be read here:

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KCNA has posted its full English comments. Haven't seen this kind of attack on Pompeo in a while. pic.twitter.com/xTnXu2Mwkt

— William Gallo (@GalloVOA) August 23, 2019

North Korea is being as clear as it can be that it isn’t going to make any concessions without at least some sanctions relief. The North Korean foreign minister’s statement says, “The U.S. is sadly mistaken if it still thinks of standing in confrontation with the DPRK with sanctions, not dropping its confrontational stand.” The administration’s misguided assumption that they can sanction North Korea into submission isn’t just wrong, but it is also sabotaging any chance at productive talks this year. Pompeo’s remarks about maintaining sanctions until North Korea denuclearizes probably seemed like so much boilerplate to him when he said it, but it set the North Korean government off. Pompeo’s statements show that the U.S. isn’t paying attention to what North Korea has been telling us for the last several months. They are running out of patience, and the Trump administration is running out of time. The problem is that only one side seems to be aware that time is running out.

The piece goes on to talk about just how Pompeo has managed to continually piss them off, seemingly with no strategic plan on why he's doing it. Here's the finish:

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Pompeo comes back again and again to the “commitment” Kim supposedly made at Singapore, but Kim didn’t make the commitment that Pompeo always attributes to him. North Korea didn’t agree to denuclearization last year, and it certainly didn’t agree to unilateral disarmament, but Pompeo keeps misleading the American public about this. The North Koreans know they didn’t make any such commitment, and they aren’t going to “execute” something they never agreed to do. Pompeo’s fabrications may not be noticed by American media outlets, but every time he speaks he is giving North Korea another reason not to trust the U.S.

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Posted 26 August 2019 - 11:19 AM

Face it. trump already gave the NK what it wanted, no more exercises. For nothing. I think Pompeo is right to hassle them. Being nice does no good. Being an asshole has to be good for something...
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Posted 28 August 2019 - 12:26 PM

More winning by Trump!

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Satellite photos of a secret North Korean naval facility appear to show that Kim Jong Un's government is building a submarine capable of launching nuclear missiles, according to NBC News. The photos were taken earlier this week at the Sinpo South Shipyard and appear to show a large submarine alongside support vessels and a crane that experts say could be used to tow a vessel out to sea for a submarine-launched missile test. However, analysts don't think the submarine can currently be used, saying the threat from the new technology is “emerging rather than imminent.” Even after it is built, it would reportedly take at least a year to test the submarine. However, the experts say the completion of the project would mark a “significant advancement of the North Korean ballistic missile and nuclear threat.”

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Posted 29 August 2019 - 03:35 AM

View PostLFC, on 28 August 2019 - 12:26 PM, said:


More fake news <sigh>. It really seems to becoming a problem, folks, the old fake news. Should it be looked into?
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