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Posted 27 September 2017 - 08:56 PM

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What are you doing Alabama?
You got the rest of the union to help you along
What's going wrong?

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 09:24 PM

I was very familiar with Southern Man, but although I knew of the song Alabama, I hadn't actually listened to it until I made that post.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 08:40 AM

View Postbaw1064, on 27 September 2017 - 09:24 PM, said:

I was very familiar with Southern Man, but although I knew of the song Alabama, I hadn't actually listened to it until I made that post.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 02:41 PM

TWICE stripped of his duties for failing to enforce the constitution and elected to the US senate by the same people who probably would be upset if you burned a flag. Sure, that makes sense.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 02:46 PM

View Postindy, on 28 September 2017 - 02:41 PM, said:

TWICE stripped of his duties for failing to enforce the constitution and elected to the US senate by the same people who probably would be upset if you burned a flag. Sure, that makes sense.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 03:02 PM

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American or Confederate?

Down there it's the same thing.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 03:04 PM

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Down there it's the same thing.

I suspect slightly more rage from burning the Dixie Swastika; but yes, the unironically fly both side by side.

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 09:32 AM

Looks like Roy Moore is a liar as well, conveniently forgetting to report income he was legally obligated to on his Senate ethics form.

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Controversial Alabama Republican Senate nominee Roy Moore failed to disclose as much as $150,000 in a filing with the Senate Ethics Committee, the Daily Beast reported on Thursday.

The Daily Beast reported, citing Moore’s filings this April with the Alabama Ethics Commission for 2016, that he listed between $50,000 and $150,000 of income under the category of honoraria he received for “speaking.”

In a Senate disclosure form Moore filed in June, however, the Daily Beast reported that he specifically denied receiving any payments in 2016 “for an article, speech, or appearance.”

Moore also listed between $150,000 and $250,000 in debt to a credit union or savings and loan institution in his Alabama filing, but omitted it from his Senate filing, according to the report.

Moore’s campaign did not immediately respond to TPM’s request for comment.

The Daily Beast also noted discrepancies between a 2014 report Moore filed with the Alabama Ethics Commission, where he reported that his wife Kayla Moore earned $65,000 a year as the president of the Foundation for Moral Law, which was not reflected in the foundation’s tax filing.

Maybe he and all the rest of the Republicans (Trumpies, Clarence Thomas, etc.) aren't liars. Maybe they're just so gobsmackingly incompetent that they are incapable of filling out forms. What's the quote? Don't necessarily attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity? Or something like that.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 01:42 PM

More on Moore, a national disgrace yet the pride of Alabama.

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In a recently-unearthed op-ed from 2006, the Alabama GOP’s new Senate nominee, Judge Roy Moore, wrote that allowing Muslims into military service constitutes a danger to America.

“A great danger to our country exists when government offices and institutions are opened to Islamic influence,” Moore wrote in the editorial for World Net Daily titled “Jihad on our faith.”

He went on to say that allowing mosques on military bases, such at Marine headquarters in Quantico, Virginia and the United States Military Academy at West Point presented a “security threat.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 02:06 PM

View PostLFC, on 29 September 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

More on Moore, a national disgrace yet the pride of Alabama.

I'd bet pretty anyone who is "the pride of (white) Alabama" is likely a disgrace in the eyes of most of us.

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 12:50 PM

The Atlantic had a nice personal lament on Moore from a staff contributor with roots in Alabama, Michelle Cottle:

https://www.theatlan...oy-moore/541467
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Posted 30 September 2017 - 04:39 PM

View PostLFC, on 29 September 2017 - 09:32 AM, said:

Maybe he and all the rest of the Republicans (Trumpies, Clarence Thomas, etc.) aren't liars. Maybe they're just so gobsmackingly incompetent that they are incapable of filling out forms. What's the quote? Don't necessarily attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity? Or something like that.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:40 AM

View Postpnwguy, on 30 September 2017 - 12:50 PM, said:

The Atlantic had a nice personal lament on Moore from a staff contributor with roots in Alabama, Michelle Cottle:

https://www.theatlan...oy-moore/541467

When he became a judge I assume he swore an oath, on a Bible, to uphold the Constitution but he obviously lied. I guess there's an asterisk on that commandment with a footnote that says it doesn't count if you're being righteous at the time.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 04:35 PM

Roy Moore really does have a problem telling the truth and when he's busted he (or a spokesperson representing him) just tells another lie. He's a perfect fit for the Republican Party ... or the Trump administration.

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Roy Moore’s Senate campaign is claiming that a federal tax form, in which his nonprofit group apparently failed to disclose his wife’s income, is either fraudulent or manipulated.

The 2014 form filed by the Foundation for Moral Law (FML) says the Alabama conservative ex-chief justice’s wife, Kayla Moore, did not receive compensation from the group despite serving as its president. That is contradicted by a separate filing Roy Moore made to the Alabama Ethics Commission last year, in which he said that his wife earned $65,000 from FML.

Asked about the discrepancy, Brett Doster, a spokesman for the Moore Senate campaign, insisted that the publicly available filing “is a fabricated document.” The version that the FML filed with the Internal Revenue Service, Doster added, noted Kayla Moore’s income for the year, “so I do not know what [sic] the foundation’s version of the [form] has it zeroed out. It has somehow been changed.”

Doster did not provide a copy of the form as he says it was filed with the IRS. The Daily Beast put in a request with the IRS for their copy of the filing, but had not received it by press time. But versions of the tax filing posted on the websites of nonprofit research services Guidestar, the Foundation Center, and ProPublica all say Kayla Moore received no income from the group in 2014, as do versions filed by FML with regulators in North Carolina, New York, and California.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:37 AM

Roy Moore's top money man is a secessionist who wants to start a theocracy in Alabama.

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Alabama Republican Senate nominee Roy Moore’s top supporter is a hardline Confederate sympathizer with longtime ties to a secessionist group.

Michael David Peroutka (pictured on the right above, with Moore in 2011) has given Moore, his foundation and his campaigns well over a half-million dollars over the past decade-plus. He’s also expressed beliefs that make even Moore’s arguably theocratic anti-gay and anti-Muslim views look mainstream by comparison. Chief among them: He’s argued that the more Christian South needs to secede and form a new Biblical nation.

The close connections raise further questions about the racial and religious views of Moore, the former Alabama supreme court chief justice and the front-runner to become Alabama’s next U.S. senator.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 09:51 AM

Maybe we can do a swap. Move everybody off Puerto Rico and into Alabama. Move Alabamans who support Moore to the island. Then let Moore and his fans use their rugged individualism and God to make it into their theocratic paradise.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 10:26 AM

View Postgolden_valley, on 06 October 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

Maybe we can do a swap. Move everybody off Puerto Rico and into Alabama. Move Alabamans who support Moore to the island. Then let Moore and his fans use their rugged individualism and God to make it into their theocratic paradise.

After contemplating your suggestion for about 2 seconds it's going to take about 3 days to wipe the schadenfreudelicious smile off my face.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 10:36 AM

Politico is reporting that Moore has met with Lee, Cruz and Paul but not Mitch McConnell. Doesn't bode very well for Republicans in the Senate, but maybe it does for everybody else.

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 11:55 AM

Pretty soon there’ll be enough young earth creationists in Congress to have their own prayer breakfast (if you count Pence)

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Posted 06 October 2017 - 12:03 PM

The museum where I volunteer is doing a presentation on witch trials. Maybe good preparation for the next generation or so.

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