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#1881 Traveler

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Posted 08 October 2020 - 01:51 PM

So you guys think the dump might trash the turtle? Oh, the schadenfreude.
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Posted 08 October 2020 - 02:29 PM

View PostTraveler, on 08 October 2020 - 01:51 PM, said:

So you guys think the dump might trash the turtle? Oh, the schadenfreude.

I suspect that Moscow Mitch wins in the leverage game especially if Trump loses. A lame duck Trump could be punished at will. Imagine teeing up a few investigations for the Dems to continue into 2021.
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Posted 08 October 2020 - 02:47 PM

Don't forget that Trump wants her in place to help him with election issues (cf. Bush v. Gore).

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Posted 08 October 2020 - 03:22 PM

View PostJackD, on 08 October 2020 - 02:47 PM, said:

Don't forget that Trump wants her in place to help him with election issues (cf. Bush v. Gore).

I doubt he'd care at this point about anything but that...he already blew himself up with breaking off stimulus negotiations (even though he backtracked a bit). The court is all he's got left.

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Posted 08 October 2020 - 03:59 PM

View PostLFC, on 08 October 2020 - 02:29 PM, said:

I suspect that Moscow Mitch wins in the leverage game especially if Trump loses. A lame duck Trump could be punished at will. Imagine teeing up a few investigations for the Dems to continue into 2021.
Ah, but wouldn't that be fun to see? Trump could care less about congressional investigations. He has plenty to worry about from folks that could put him behind bars.
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Posted 08 October 2020 - 04:13 PM

Well, the thing to remember about Trump is that norms don't apply. I doubt he cares about SCOTUS on any level deeper than what he thinks he can get out of the appointment. If he could sell the appointment for something that benefits himself personally, I have no doubt he would. But I don't know what cards the various players hold, so it's nothing but mere speculation.

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Posted 09 October 2020 - 09:14 AM

 JackD, on 08 October 2020 - 02:47 PM, said:

Don't forget that Trump wants her in place to help him with election issues (cf. Bush v. Gore).

He has the majority on his side with or without her.
Well, fuck.

How can I be expected to distinguish BS from reality when so much of my reality is utter BS?!

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Posted 09 October 2020 - 09:22 AM

There's always a danger that one of the majority might decide to actually follow the law. One more is insurance against that.

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Posted 09 October 2020 - 03:17 PM

Freakout about Harry and Meghan calling on Americans to get out and vote and to reject "reject hate speech, misinformation, and online negativity." Being against those three is now identified as a partisan position.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 09 October 2020 - 03:18 PM

Harry! Foreign influence!

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Posted 09 October 2020 - 03:42 PM

 LFC, on 09 October 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

Freakout about Harry and Meghan calling on Americans to get out and vote and to reject "reject hate speech, misinformation, and online negativity." Being against those three is now identified as a partisan position.
Funny how even the maggots must admit they are full of "hate speech, misinformation, and online negativity" if being against that is considered left. The cognitive dissonance is amazing.
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Posted 16 October 2020 - 12:26 PM

Trump just further cemented QAnon's position in the Republican Party. He denies knowing much about them. Chalk up yet another lie.

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President Donald Trump on Thursday refused to disavow QAnon, a group that has been labeled by the FBI as a domestic terror threat.

Repeatedly pressed about the group during an NBC town hall with “Today” Show anchor Savannah Guthrie, Trump again claimed he knows very little about the QAnon theory that places him at the center as savior fighting a cult of “deep state” Democrats running a satanic pedophile ring.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 16 October 2020 - 12:53 PM

Sure, they're not all Republicans but I'd bet that the majority, and probability the vast majority at that, vote Republican most of the time. Yep, our old pal Ammon Bundy is organizing some of the nation's biggest idiots and losers or, as TPM calls the group, Malcontents 'R' Us.

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What do anti-vaxxers, sovereign citizens, Second Amendment die-hards and online edgelords obsessed with “Zionist Banksters” have in common?

They’re all volunteers in Ammon Bundy’s nationwide and extremely eclectic COVID-19 protest network, “People’s Rights.”

The group is basically a glorified phone tree to funnel “reopen” demonstrators to whichever nearby dog-grooming business, playground or police station is deemed to be infringing on individual liberties through public health measures.

But it’s exploded in popularity in recent months, turning what one Montana-based group leader called an “Uber-like protective service” into a complex hierarchy with dozens of chapters across 16 states.

And according to a new report from from the Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights and the Montana Human Rights Network, People’s Rights’ big tent has housed everyone from skeptics of modern medicine to rank-and-file members of fringe armed groups.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 20 October 2020 - 10:19 AM

YouTube is the latest company to shut down QAnon accounts before somebody gets seriously hurt or they out and out murder somebody. This is just one violent pillar of the Republican base. Bold mine.

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Google-owned YouTube has become the latest social media platform to crack down on the pro-Trump conspiracy theory QAnon ahead of November’s US election, but stopped short of a full ban on the rapidly spreading movement.

In a blog post on Thursday, the video platform said that it would “prohibit content that targets an individual or group with conspiracy theories that have been used to justify real-world violence,” citing QAnon and related conspiracy theory Pizzagate.

The social media group also said that it had removed “tens of thousands” of videos and “hundreds of channels” related to QAnon, whose members believe US president Donald Trump is under threat from a Satanic “deep state” cabal of Democrats and Hollywood celebrities involved in child trafficking.

The move comes as Facebook and Twitter have also taken steps to eliminate the conspiracy theory from their platforms in recent months. In July, Twitter banned thousands of QAnon-related accounts and said it would stop recommending content linked to the movement, while Facebook announced plans to wipe it from its platform last week.

YouTube’s recommendation algorithms have long been criticised for helping draw users towards radical and extremist content, as well as conspiracy theories. In response to allegations in 2018 that it was pushing its audience “down the rabbit hole” of often baseless conspiracy content, it updated its systems to restrict the reach of harmful misinformation.

Nevertheless, QAnon—which was labelled a domestic terror threat by the FBI last year—has continued to proliferate across social media platforms in the lead-up to the November election and taken on increasingly violent undertones, while also spilling into the mainstream.

Left-leaning nonprofit Media Matters has identified 27 congressional candidates who have endorsed or given credence to QAnon, or promoted related content. Last month, a director in Citigroup’s information technology department was dismissed after he was identified as the operator of one of the most important QAnon websites.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 20 October 2020 - 10:23 AM

View PostLFC, on 20 October 2020 - 10:19 AM, said:

YouTube is the latest company to shut down QAnon accounts before somebody gets seriously hurt or they out and out murder somebody. This is just one violent pillar of the Republican base. Bold mine.

Is this the reason that DOJ is going after Google on antitrust violations?

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Posted 23 October 2020 - 04:01 PM

According to Rick Wilson we should all strap in for Don, Jr. in 2024. Trumpism rules the Republican Party. I don't see it going away even if the GOP gets wiped out. In fact I see the Trumpy wing doing exactly what the now "mainstream" wing did before, blame the part for not going far enough. It's an endless series of rightward steps that long ago descended into little more than froth and spittle.

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When Donald Trump first announced, in 2015, that he was seeking the Republican presidential nomination, no one in the GOP gave much thought to his son, Donald Trump, Jr. But the younger Trump has since become a prominent figure in the Trumpian version of the Republican Party. Journalist David Smith discusses the rise of Trump, Jr. in an article published in The Guardian this week, explaining why he has become so popular with a certain type of Republican voter — even though some conservatives view him as a glaring example of the GOP’s intellectual decline.

Combative, snarky, belligerent and mean-spirited, Trump, Jr. has a lot more in common with his father than he does with his sister, White House Senior Adviser Ivanka Trump — who fancies herself as more of a conservative intellectual even though her critics view her as low-information. Ivanka Trump at least pretends to have a thoughtful tone when she is giving a speech or writing a Twitter post, whereas Trump, Jr. openly disdains intellectuals. And even though Trump, Jr. is a millionaire, MAGA voters with a fraction of his income adore his anti-elitist schtick.

“When Don Jr. and his father bash Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and (former Vice President Joe) Biden at campaign rallies, they generate louder reactions from the crowd than when they set out agenda items or achievements,” Smith explains. “Don Jr.’s Twitter feed offers his 5.8 million followers little by way of policy but a torrent of Democrat-baiting and conspiracy theories.”

Trump, Jr., Smith stresses, is “adept at throwing red meat to” his father’s MAGA base, and Trumpians eat it up when he is giving a speech at a rally.

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The 56-year-old Wilson explained, “Trumpism replaced conservatism as the ideological underpinning of the Republican Party, and because of that, they don’t really fight about issues anymore. They fight about effect and whether or not they’re winning these ephemeral social media battles — and in that world, the highest order goal is the ‘owning of the libs.’ It is a throwaway phrase substituting the validity or strength of an argument with a sort of self-satisfaction that you have been transgressive in some way towards liberals or progressives.”

The Never Trumper continued, “Donald Trump, Jr. is a master of that. He is a post-Republican Republican. He is there only to engage in that performative dickery that is lib-owning in the Trump world. It is a political performance art to show your contempt for norms, institutions and education.”

But even though Wilson has a very low opinion of the president’s son, he predicts that Trump, Jr. will run for president in 2024 and believes that the GOP has sunk low enough to give him the nomination.

Wilson told The Guardian, “What I tell all these Republicans who think they’re going to run in ’24 for president — Ben Sasse and Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz — is they’re not going anywhere. They should stop right now. They’re wasting their time and everyone else’s, because the nominee in 2024 is going to be Donald Trump, Jr. He will come in, he will have his father’s endorsement, and he will promise great feats of lib ownership.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 23 October 2020 - 04:34 PM

View PostLFC, on 23 October 2020 - 04:01 PM, said:

According to Rick Wilson we should all strap in for Don, Jr. in 2024. Trumpism rules the Republican Party. I don't see it going away even if the GOP gets wiped out. In fact I see the Trumpy wing doing exactly what the now "mainstream" wing did before, blame the part for not going far enough. It's an endless series of rightward steps that long ago descended into little more than froth and spittle.
Hey, he's got 4 years to quick get a degree from the Harvard Kennedy School of Government, to gain the skills of running a vast political juggernaut, with the planet's most powerful military, right? Oh, wait....
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Posted 23 October 2020 - 06:42 PM

Is Romney just going to start a new party by then?
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Posted 23 October 2020 - 09:06 PM

View Postbaw1064, on 23 October 2020 - 06:42 PM, said:

Is Romney just going to start a new party by then?

So he can be the Republican Ralph Nader?
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Posted 23 October 2020 - 09:13 PM

Sounds good.
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