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Posted 08 May 2019 - 09:36 AM

View Postpnwguy, on 07 May 2019 - 05:00 PM, said:

So I wonder if we'll find out later than the employment and GDP figures are have been cooked for months.

I'm trying to remember the details but under W they tried to force the head of one program (Medicare I think) to suppress figures they didn't like. It's classic Republicanism. They do something over and over and then screech that the Dems are doing it. The Big Lie (coupled with the Big Coverup) has been an absolute standard play for the GOP for decades.
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Posted 08 May 2019 - 01:20 PM

So maybe Trump's dumb pronouncements on trade, tariffs, and foreign policy serve a purpose...to allow him and his people chances to gamble on the anticipated market shifts.

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Now Trump — or any of his partners/associates/financiers — no longer has to buy stock in a specific company to make money. He can use our house to act like a corporate raider. He can threaten to make or break a deal using the good faith and credit of the United States (instead of his own bad faith) and mess with the entire market.



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Trump’s early Monday morning tweet would have been seen at these local times:
4:06 am Washington DC
6:06 pm Sydney Australia
5:06 pm Tokyo Japan
5:06 pm Seoul South Korea
4:06 pm Beijing PRC
11:06 am Moscow Russia

Ample time to jump in between the Sunday tweets and this Monday tweet if one was already holding index shares.
Those of use who didn’t trade on this information, though, went for a roller coaster ride on our hard-earned retirement savings and college funds as they plummeted Monday morning.



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Posted 08 May 2019 - 01:50 PM

Hate to say it folks, but this time around trump is right to impose tariffs. The Chinese totally fucked with the deal that they spent the last four months negotiating. And Xi claimed responsibility.

So the gloves are off. Xi's mistake is trying to bullshit a bullshitter. I am pretty sure we are about to enter a total trade war.
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Posted 08 May 2019 - 02:16 PM

View PostTraveler, on 08 May 2019 - 01:50 PM, said:

Hate to say it folks, but this time around trump is right to impose tariffs. The Chinese totally fucked with the deal that they spent the last four months negotiating. And Xi claimed responsibility.

So the gloves are off. Xi's mistake is trying to bullshit a bullshitter. I am pretty sure we are about to enter a total trade war.

I agree that now is the time. If only we didn't gut our farmers right out of the gate. Retaliation that hurts yourself as well right up front is just stupid.
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Posted 08 May 2019 - 02:27 PM

That was Xi's counterattack. Effective for the poor farmers (bless their MAGA souls), but no effect on the rest of us. Retaliation will always hurt.

I would like to move this discussion over to the China thread. These are big time developments. I had no idea Xi was that stupid.
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Posted 13 May 2019 - 08:43 AM

It's interesting that despite having taken the stupid approach of a bull in the China shop Trump is actually trying to do something that would be beneficial to the nation with the China trade negotiations. It would be interesting and ironic if it ends up punishing him electorally with his base when all of his racism, misogyny, robbing the poor to give to the rich, and on and on does nothing more than fire them up.

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President Trump has ignored advice from his Republican advisers that he should be careful in his efforts to lower tariffs on U.S. goods, the Washington Post reported.

Republican advisers have told Trump in recent weeks that his ongoing trade war with China could backfire and end up harming those he claims to be fighting for: his base.

“Both sides will suffer on this,” Trump’s National Economic Council Director Larry Kudlow said on Sunday, per the Post, arguing that the Trump administration’s increased tariffs on Chinese imports would end up harming Americans.

But the President reportedly thinks that his supporters believe he is sticking his neck out for them and they’ll award him with a reelection, according to the Post.

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 11:37 AM

Wow. Even cokehead burnout Larry Kudlow isn't dumb enough to keep up with Trump who still doesn't grasp how tariff's work.

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President Trump was vexed with National Economic Council Director Larry Kudlow after he partially acknowledged in an interview with “Fox News Sunday” that U.S. consumers will have to front part of the burden for the administration’s tariffs on Chinese imports, The Washington Post reported.

Trump reportedly called Kudlow after the TV hit and “they had it out,” a White House official told the Post. Two other officials described the call as cordial to the Post.

During an interview on Fox on Sunday, Chris Wallace pressed Kudlow to acknowledge that U.S. businesses and consumers would eventually be the ones paying for Trump’s escalated trade war with China.

“But it’s U.S. businesses and U.S. consumers who pay, correct?” Wallace said, after Kudlow dodged questions about the tariffs.

“Yes, to some extent,” Kudlow eventually said.

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 12:03 PM

More of Trump's Chumps are wondering how they ended up bent over, pants down around their ankles, getting lubed (well, maybe not) and screwed by the MAGA Man they loved so much. This time its ranchers and others in the meat producing industry. (Not, of course, the giants in the meat processing packing industry.) As the meme goes, "zero is the number of f***ks I give." You bought it, you own it suckas!

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"MAGA,” blusters Donald Trump. “Make America Great Again!” America’s ranching families, however, would like Trump to come off his high horse and get serious about a more modest goal, namely Make America COOL Again.

COOL stands for Country of Origin Labeling, a straightforward law simply requiring that the labels on packages of steak, pork chops, etc. tell us if the meat came from the USA, China, Brazil or Whereintheworldistan. That’s useful information, empowering consumers to decide where their families’ food dollars go. But multinational meatpacking giants like Tyson Foods, JBS, and Cargill don’t want you and me having this basic knowledge and power to decide for ourselves.

So, in 2012, the meat monopolists got the World Trade Organization to decree that our nation’s COOL law violated global trade rules — and our corporate-submissive congress critters meekly surrendered, repealing the law.

Then came Donald Trump, blustering furiously against world trade scams and launching his Made in America campaign, which included promising struggling ranchers that he’d make restoring the COOL label a centerpiece of his new NAFTA deal. Ranching families cheered Donald the Dealmaker because getting that “American Made” brand on their products would mean more sales and better prices.

Now, however, cheers have turned to jeers, for Trump has issued his new U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement, ballyhooing it as a “historic transaction.” But wait a minute … Where’s the beef? In his grandiose 1,809-page document, there is not one scrap about restoring COOL, not one word.

Worse than being left out, America’s hard-hit ranching families are actually slapped in the face by Trump’s U.S.-Mexico-Canada deal, for it allows multinational meatpackers to keep shipping into the U.S. market foreign beef that does not meet our food safety standards! Aside from the “yuck” factor and health issues, this gives Tyson and other giants an incentive to abandon U.S. ranchers entirely.

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 12:33 PM

View PostLFC, on 08 May 2019 - 09:36 AM, said:

I'm trying to remember the details but under W they tried to force the head of one program (Medicare I think) to suppress figures they didn't like. It's classic Republicanism. They do something over and over and then screech that the Dems are doing it. The Big Lie (coupled with the Big Coverup) has been an absolute standard play for the GOP for decades.

Frank Luntz: accuse the Enemy of doing the things you're guilty of, then when they catch you at it they're just being copycats trying to draw attention away from their misdeeds.
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Posted 23 May 2019 - 12:52 PM

Another year, another "bale out" to buffer some farmers from the trade wars.

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When the Trump administration announced last year that it was giving farmers hurt by the President’s multi-front trade war a $12 billion “bale out,” the government insisted it would be a one-time event.

But now, as retaliatory tariffs in response to President Trump’s trade war — which he previously insisted was “good, and easy to win” — drag on, the administration is preparing another payment program. The move appears aimed at Trump’s political base, as he tweeted earlier this month about “our great Patriot Farmers” eventually benefitting from his trade policies.

Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue announced the news in an interview Thursday morning with Fox Business Network’s Maria Bartiromo.

“We’re having another market facilitation program in 2019, once these [trade] talks [with China] broke down,” he said.

“China’s going to pay for this $16 billion through tariffs coming in,” Perdue asserted, before confirming that the money would really be coming from his department’s Commodity Credit Corporation program.

As CNN noted, studies have shown that Perdue’s claim about tariffs on China paying for the program is not true. Last year, Sen. John Thune (R-SD) called the program “an additional payment that’s going to be made by the taxpayers.”

In 2018, Perdue called the $12 billion a “short-term solution to allow President Trump time to work on long-term trade deals to benefit agriculture and the entire U.S. economy.” Others in the administration called it a “one-time” response to what the USDA called “unjustified retaliation.”

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 08:59 AM

Apparently the latest of Trump's retaliations against the "deep state" is to not only start DoJ [1] criminal investigations into the intelligence community, but to flip them off as well. After they documented the security threats from Huawei, State and Commerce slapped sanctions on Huawei that are supposed to keep them from bugging half of the electronics we import. This is making China very unhappy, so Our Glorious Leader smells opportunity and he's said to be dangling the Huawei sanctions as a carrot for whatever he thinks he wants from China this week.

This has, no doubt, been received as a rebuke by the intelligence community. Not that there's anything they could, can, or will do to avoid similar transgressions in the future but it should make him feel somewhat better for a little while.

[1] Need a new name for the Department, don't we?
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 09:35 AM

From what I gather, trump was itching to impose sanctions on Huawei many months ago. That is the real nuclear option, and has ramifications all over the world, none of which are very good at all. He held off while the talks seemed to be going somewhere. When the Chinese welshed, this got put on the front burner.

This is a much better bargaining chip than his looking into releasing Meng (which was a separate justified DoJ action). There are good reasons either way. Showing China its reliance on US tech is a good lesson. If holding off actually moves the needle toward actual reforms, there are considerable benefits to doing so.
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 03:00 PM

Trump's trade war seems to have benefited Mexico and Vietnam. Here are the top bullet points.

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  • American and Chinese consumers and producers are paying the price of the yearlong trade war, which has seen the US and China slap tariffs on billions of dollars' worth of each other's goods.
  • US and Chinese importers have stopped buying from each other and turned to other countries instead.
  • Vietnam and Mexico have greatly benefited from these policies.
  • This runs counter to President Donald Trump's claims that Chinese companies bear the brunt of the US tariffs and that "trade wars are good, and easy to win."

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Posted 30 May 2019 - 07:14 PM

So much winning: U.S. Economy Slips From First to Third Place in Global Competitiveness Ranking Amid Trump's Tariffs

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The United States lost its spot as the world's most competitive economy amid an ongoing trade war with China, according to an annual ranking from the IMD World Competitiveness Center.

Both Singapore and Hong Kong had more competitive economies than the U.S., per the report, which evaluates 63 countries on 235 measures. High fuel prices and fluctuations in the dollar's value diminished the confidence-boosting impact of Trump's tax policies, said the center.

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 08:43 AM

View PostAnBr, on 30 May 2019 - 07:14 PM, said:


There are easy solutions for that. Cut taxes for the wealthy, especially capital gains and estate taxes, and deregulate, deregulate, deregulate. Sure millions of more people will be dying early but we'll be "competitive."
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Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:58 PM

Trump is a one-trick pony; TARIFFS!!! He's all pissed off at Mexico for not stopping the immigrants heading for the U.S. border so he wants to start a trade war with them. An official for his campaign tried to explain the "logic" behind this "thinking" and didn't do so well.

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President Donald Trump escalated his trade war Friday, announcing a 5 percent tariff on goods coming from Mexico as a way to stem the flow of migration.

On CNN Friday, Marc Lotter, Strategic Director of Communications for Trump’s re-election campaign, floundered when he tried to explain the strategy behind the tariffs.

“I hear you, but do you accept that? Will you accept that, though, Marc? Will you accept — is it the position of the campaign that you believe that a worse off Mexico economy is going to somehow stop the flow of illegal immigration north?” Kate Bolduan demanded to know.

“What I’m hoping is Mexico will use the two weeks before these tariffs come into effect or they work quickly to have them removed so we don’t have to continue to escalate this and we can work to stop the crisis of illegal immigration coming across the border,” Lotter replied.

“This is entirely in Mexico’s hands. They can decide when the tariffs start, if the tariffs start, how high they go and when they come off,” Lotter claimed.


One conservative commentator calls this "mindboggling stupid."

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But Philip Klein, editor of the conservative Washington Examiner, blasted Trump’s plan as “reckless and mindbogglingly stupid” for several reasons.

“First, in the most direct way, raising tariffs on Mexico will mean a tax increase of up to 25% on American families and businesses purchasing any products from Mexico, one of the U.S.’ leading trade partners,” wrote Klein. “In 2018, Americans imported $346.5 billion in goods from Mexico, so on that basis it would amount to a nearly $87 billion tax increase. It also will punish industries that will be affected by inevitable retaliatory tariffs.”


Little Lindsey does a 180, bends over, and Trumpsucks like his (political) life depended on it.

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Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) has completely changed his view of tariffs since President Donald Trump threatened them now that he’s enacting them — and social media users were eager to call out his hypocrisy.

The South Carolina Republican and ardent Trump apologist spoke out in January 2017 against the Trump administration using tariffs to punish Mexico for illegal immigration, in a pair of tweets posted less than a week after the GOP president’s inauguration.

“Border security yes, tariffs no,” Graham tweeted at the time. “Mexico is 3rd largest trading partner. Any tariff we can levy they can levy. Huge barrier to econ growth.”

But that was then, and this is now.


Suckabee? She stays classic Republican and says it's the Dems' fault for investigating Trump. Read her logic. It sounds like she wasn't just dropped on her head as a baby. It sounds like she was dribbled on her head like a friggin' basketball in the NBA finals.

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White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Friday on Fox News that Democrats in Congress were to blame for President Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs on Mexico.

Sanders said Trump had a “great deal of confidence” in how his attorney general, Bill Barr, had handled special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation.
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“He has done a fantastic job of laying out all of the parameters of what has taken place with the Mueller report, making that public. This is total exoneration and case closed. We saw Robert Mueller this week closing up his shop, completed his investigation and moving on,” Sanders continued.

“Democrats have got to stop obsessing over something that never happened and start engaging with the president to fix some of the real problems that are happening right in front of their faces like the problem at the border,” she said, before suggesting that tariffs on Mexico wouldn’t have happened if Congress wasn’t investigating Trump.

“If Democrats would quit wasting so much time of their time attacking this president, the president wouldn’t have to engage Mexico in the same way because Congress would be doing its job. At some point they have to get serious about solving real problems and so far they continue to be unwilling to do that,” Sanders claimed.

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Posted 01 June 2019 - 07:47 PM

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Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

— Carl Sagan
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
1995


“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

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On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

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Posted 02 June 2019 - 08:41 AM

View PostLFC, on 31 May 2019 - 12:58 PM, said:

Trump is a one-trick pony; TARIFFS!!!

When is he going to lay some punitive tariffs on California? I mean, sure, sacking a thousand firefighters heading into fire season and restricting the remainder to working in States that voted for him (Montana?) is a start, but for real action Tariff Man needs to bring out the big guns.
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Posted 02 June 2019 - 01:43 PM

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They cannot even spell.
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Posted 02 June 2019 - 08:45 PM

“Disastrous”: Dow Sinks as Markets Realize Trump Really Is This Stupid

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At present the U.S. is involved in a protracted trade war with China that has yielded nothing in concessions from Beijing, cost U.S. companies and consumers billions, obliterated $5 trillion from the stock market, and is threatening to tip the economy into a recession. At the White House, Donald Trump has learned the lessons of this failed strategy and decided to…drag the U.S. into another unwinnable trade war, this time with one of our neighbors and largest trading partner.

Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

— Carl Sagan
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
1995


“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

— H.L. Mencken
On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

— Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Second inaugural address January, 1937





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