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[golden_valley]

or Hannity?

[LFC]

 indy, on 12 August 2020 - 01:16 PM, said:

Tucker?

 golden_valley, on 12 August 2020 - 01:32 PM, said:

or Hannity?

Definitely Tucker. I've seen multiple "musings" about him running for president in 2024 over at The American "Conservative" this year. Dreher has been "talking himself into it" for months.

[LFC]

Pence just lied about Trump's response to COVID-19. I guess bearing false witness isn't a problem in the service of Dear Leader. First Pence killed people as governor during the AIDS epidemic and now he's killing them because COVID-19 makes his boss look bad. It's all in the name of his religion, of course. What a twisted, evil troll.

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Vice President Mike Pence spent Thursday morning cleaning up President Donald Trump’s stated admission to reporter Bob Woodward that he had intentionally downplayed the coronavirus pandemic.

The vice president appeared on Fox News, where he insisted the president had projected leadership and confidence, and then posted on Twitter that Trump had shut down the U.S. economy to fight the spread of the coronavirus.

“It is important to remember that President @realDonaldTrump shut down the entire American economy to put the health of America first,” Pence tweeted.

“Along the way, what the American people saw was a President who was projecting the kind of leadership and the kind of confidence in the American people and all of our healthcare experts, doctors and nurses that you would expect from a President in a challenging time like this,” the vice president added, posting a link to his Fox News appearance.

None of those statements, according to other social media users, were true.

Lots of brutal comments in the article.

[Probabilistic]

Mike Pence. Scumbag! End of discussion. Doesn't need 6 pages of TRS.

[LFC]

He has amplified lie after lie for Trump to rev up the Christianists but now he's backing off since Trump lost. I guess he has his corrupt, bearing false witness eye on 2024 and doesn't want that last bit of Trumpian stank to cling to him. Good luck with that. (And it looks like somebody doesn't want to be Trump's running mate in 2024.)

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Vice President Mike Pence has been a go-to fundraising draw for the president’s campaign, and since October, no more than a day passed without his name emblazoning a fundraising email for the Trump re-elect.

But that changed late last month. Since Nov. 25, not a single fundraising email from the Trump campaign or its Republican National Committee fundraising account has featured Pence’s name in the “from” field. And this week, that Republican National Committee joint fundraising committee, the Trump Make America Great Again Committee, made another subtle change: a handful of its emails swapped out the official Trump-Pence campaign logo for one featuring just the president’s name.

At first blush, those may seem like minor tweaks to gimmicky portions of Team Trump’s fundraising strategy. A source familiar with the process said the fundraising emails do not go to Vice President Pence’s team for clearance and an RNC official said the digital team was merely testing a new logo around the end-of-the-month deadline. Indeed, some of the joint fundraising committee’s emails this week have included the original campaign logo with Pence’s name below Trump’s.

But several high-level sources say that the graphics change, along with Pence’s disappearance from the headers of President Donald Trump’s increasingly frantic and conspiratorial pleas, are not actually coincidental. According to four people with knowledge of the matter, they reflect an effort by the vice president and his team to distance Pence from some of the president’s more outlandish claims about a conspiracy to undermine the election and illegally deny him a second term in office.

“It is an open secret [in Trumpworld] that Vice President Pence absolutely does not feel the same way about the legal effort as President Trump does,” said a senior administration official. “The vice president doesn’t want to go down with this ship… and believes much of the legal work has been unhelpful.”

[golden_valley]

LFC, on 03 December 2020 - 11:31 AM, said:

He has amplified lie after lie for Trump to rev up the Christianists but now he's backing off since Trump lost. I guess he has his corrupt, bearing false witness eye on 2024 and doesn't want that last bit of Trumpian stank to cling to him. Good luck with that. (And it looks like somebody doesn't want to be Trump's running mate in 2024.)

Pence and Barr used Trump to further their beliefs and ends but Trump is no longer useful to them.

[LFC]

golden_valley, on 03 December 2020 - 01:22 PM, said:

Pence and Barr used Trump to further their beliefs and ends but Trump is no longer useful to them.

And yet they have to be careful because there's still power in his ignorant, angry, frothing base.

[andydp]

golden_valley, on 03 December 2020 - 01:22 PM, said:

Pence and Barr used Trump to further their beliefs and ends but Trump is no longer useful to them.

I have said this before: The only reason Pres Trump was kept in office was he could still hold a pen and sign his name to whatever they put in front of him.

[JackD]

Yes, he could hold a pen and sign whatever they put in front of him. As importantly, though, they weren't alienating his cult of followers without whose votes they can't get elected.

[LFC]

Mike Pence, "Christian." I guess this is how you get when you worship money.

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The grassroots organization People for Bernie on Tuesday advised the Democratic Party to take a page from an unlikely source—right-wing Vice President Mike Pence—after Pence told a rally crowd in Florida that progressives and Democrats "want to make rich people poorer, and poor people more comfortable."

"Good message," tweeted the group, alerting the Democratic National Committee to adopt the vice president's simple, straightforward description of how the party can prioritize working people over corporations and the rich.
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Suggesting that a progressive approach to the economy will harm the country—despite the fact that other wealthy nations already invest heavily in making low- and middle-income "more comfortable" by taxing corporations and very high earners—Pence touted the Republicans' aim to "cut taxes" and "roll back regulations."

The vice president didn't mention how the Trump administration's 2017 tax cuts overwhelmingly benefited wealthy households and powerful corporations, with corporate income tax rates slashed from 35% to 21%, corporate tax revenues plummeting, and a surge in stock buybacks while workers saw "no discernible wage increase" according to a report released last year by the Economic Policy Institute and the Center for Popular Democracy.

Similarly, the Republican Party's recent attempts to roll back regulations include measures that have actively harmed working families, including the administration's termination of overtime protections for workers—resulting in an estimated $1.2 billion in lost earnings—and of requirements that federal contractors meet labor and wage standards.

[LFC]

Brace yourselves. Winter (of our democracy) is coming. Pence is a poster child for smooth, smarmy corruption and dishonesty wrapped in religious armor. I'd actually be surprised if he dragged himself out of the sludge for this occasion.

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According to CNN political analyst Toluse Olorunnipa, he expects Vice President Mike Pence -- with an eye on his own political future -- to attempt some type of grand gesture or political stunt when the Senate convenes on Jan. 6 to certify the results of the 2020 presidential election.

As NPR reports about the January 6th vote count, "At 1 p.m. lawmakers from the House and Senate will assemble in the House chamber, with Vice President Pence presiding in his role as president of the Senate. He will then begin to open the sealed certificates submitted by each state and hand them to tellers appointed from among the House and Senate members to read."

However, Olorunnipa predicted Pence may not let the vote tally run as smoothly as it has in the past.
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"I would not be surprised if Vice President Pence finds some kind of theatrical way to protest," the CNN analyst suggested. "It calls to mind a couple of years ago when he went to a National Football League game and when some of the players knelt at the national anthem, he walked out in the middle of it and got a big pat on the back on social media from President Trump."

"We know it didn't have any impact and we know whatever he does to protest the results of this election on January 6th will not have any impact, but I expect he'll find some way to express that he does not have confidence in the election results," he continued. "And if this were to happen in any other country, calling for his most loyal supporters, some of whom have been violent to take to the streets of D.C. we would be saying that this is an attempted coup, that this is a breakdown in democracy."

[LFC]

That's mighty white of you, Mikey.

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Better late than never?

Vice President Mike Pence called Vice President-elect Kamala Harris on Thursday to offer his congratulations and assistance as Harris prepares to take over in less than a week, the New York Times reported Friday. Several other news organizations confirmed the call.

Pence’s call marks the vice president’s first effort to connect with his Democratic rival, more than two months after the November election. It stands in contrast with President Donald Trump’s flat refusal to reach out to President-elect Joe Biden.

[golden_valley]

 LFC, on 15 January 2021 - 03:41 PM, said:

That's mighty white of you, Mikey.

That is *chef's kiss* perfection!

[LFC]

Now that Mike Pence is out of a job he's going to corrupt the minds of America's youth for fun and profit. Part of what he's doing is with an organization lead by Scott Walker, at one time the most purchased governor in America.

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It seems everyone is launching a podcast these days. So why not the former vice president?

Former Vice President Mike Pence is expected to launch a video podcast in the coming months, according to a news release.

Politco was the first to report that Pence will partner with the Young America’s Foundation as the group’s first Ronald Reagan presidential scholar to debut the podcast, while also joining the conservative youth organization’s cohort of campus lecturers and publish monthly opinions on the conservative movement.

In the release announcing the partnership, former Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who is the organization’s president, lauded Pence as “a stalwart defender of individual freedom, traditional values, free markets, and limited government throughout his career of distinguished service to our country.”

Walker indicated that one of the group’s hopes was for Pence to “continue to attract new hearts and minds to the conservative cause.”

Hearts and minds? I guess that means leave your soul at the door.

[golden_valley]

LFC, on 05 February 2021 - 10:41 AM, said:

Now that Mike Pence is out of a job he's going to corrupt the minds of America's youth for fun and profit. Part of what he's doing is with an organization lead by Scott Walker, at one time the most purchased governor in America.

Hearts and minds? I guess that means leave your soul at the door.

Trying to build his personal base for a run in the 2024 presidential primary? Or just needs $$?

[LFC]

golden_valley, on 05 February 2021 - 11:40 AM, said:

Trying to build his personal base for a run in the 2024 presidential primary? Or just needs $$?

Or called upon by God™ to spread lies?

[LFC]

Mike Pence remains a "good German." (Paywalled.)

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Even though the last two days of the impeachment trial have included new information about the fact that former President Trump put his veep in harms way, Vice President Mike Pence is standing by his man.

According to a new Washington Post report, Pence has no plans to speak out against Trump or to comment on the impeachment trial. There is however, according to the Post, a new “rift” between the two men that is “unlikely to ever fully heal.”

But Pence reportedly blames those around the former president — his aides and senior staff — not Trump himself, claiming staffers allowed false claims about a rigged election to enter his airwaves.

The outline of what Trump knew and when he knew it, in regards to sicing a mob on his vice president and failing to wave it off, has become increasingly clear in recent days. Trump tweeted calling Pence a coward just two minutes before Pence, his wife and daughter were pulled to evacuate the Capitol. Trump was aware that Pence was in danger — just 11 minutes before he tweeted, live television coverage showed Pence being hurried off of the Senate floor. Trump was watching that live coverage, according to the Post, and the White House is typically informed of “significant movements involving the vice president.”

While Pence may not speak out against Trump, a handful of Republicans appear to want to know at least a bit more about Trump’s actions on the day of the insurrection, including Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-LA), who told reporters last night he’d like to hear an explanation from Trump’s lawyers about his “inaction” as Capitol police pleaded for support.

[pnwguy]

LFC, on 12 February 2021 - 01:46 PM, said:

Mike Pence remains a "good German." (Paywalled.)

Maybe it's more like those millions of battered wives who never break away from their abusers.

[LFC]

Yep, still a lying scumbag. Some things never change.

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Exactly eight weeks ago, then-Vice President Mike Pence was caught on camera with his family fleeing a mob of rioters who had been whipped up into a violent frenzy by former President Donald Trump’s election-fraud lies. It seems he’s learned precisely nothing from that harrowing experience. In his first op-ed for conservative news site The Daily Signal, Pence pushes evidence-free claims of widespread foul play in the 2020 vote. He claims the presidential election was “marked by significant voting irregularities and numerous instances of officials setting aside state election law,” and that he shares the concerns of “millions” of Americans “about the integrity of the 2020 election.” Pence failed to name any specific instances of voter fraud or breaches of state election law. As of mid-February, state and federal judges had thrown out more than 50 lawsuits presented by Trump and his cronies that attempted to challenge the election or its outcome.

[Probabilistic]

LFC, on 03 March 2021 - 01:25 PM, said:

Yep, still a lying scumbag. Some things never change.

Life has taught him a valuable lesson: there's only upside to lying if you can be relentless and shameless (or perhaps relentlessly shameless).