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Posted 18 November 2020 - 09:37 AM

Wow, even Brian Kilmeade has folded.

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Brian Kilmeade, one of the hosts of “Fox and Friends,” on Wednesday morning called on President Donald Trump to finally begin teaming up with President-elect Joe Biden even as Trump refuses to acknowledge his rival’s decisive electoral victory.

“I think it’s in the country’s best interest if he starts coordinating on the virus and starts coordinating with security with the Biden team and just brief them,” Kilmeade said during the show.

The Fox News host asserted that the two men “need to coordinate on the transportation and implementation” of the COVID-19 vaccine.

“And [Biden] will see how thorough the planning has been so we don’t drop the ball in a little while,” he added.

Kilmeade’s remarks join the small but growing chorus of Trump allies who have been urging the President, who’s been blocking Biden’s transition efforts and trying to undo the election with bogus lawsuits, to at least brief the President-elect on the administration’s operations.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 20 November 2020 - 11:01 AM

[slow head shake] Can he Trumpsuck any harder without imploding his own skull?

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To soften the blow of defeat Fox's Geraldo proposes naming the vaccine after Trump. "It would be a nice gesture to him and years from now it would become kind of a generic name. Have you got your trump yet, I got my trump, I'm fine. I wished we could honor him in that way."

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 20 November 2020 - 11:12 AM

View PostLFC, on 20 November 2020 - 11:01 AM, said:

"It would be a nice gesture to him and years from now it would become kind of a generic name. Have you got your trump yet, I got my trump, I'm fine. I wished we could honor him in that way."
I'd rather have "trump" be another word for defecation, which he did to the US. "Excuse me, but I've got to take a wicked trump right now."
"All glory to the HypnoTrump, or else..."

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Posted 20 November 2020 - 12:34 PM

View Postpnwguy, on 20 November 2020 - 11:12 AM, said:

I'd rather have "trump" be another word for defecation, which he did to the US. "Excuse me, but I've got to take a wicked trump right now."
Even better if the word were to be never, ever uttered again -- negative attention is still attention.
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Posted 20 November 2020 - 01:25 PM

tRump==Santorum.
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Posted 20 November 2020 - 01:28 PM

View PostLFC, on 18 November 2020 - 09:37 AM, said:

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“And [Biden] will see how thorough the planning has been so we don’t drop the ball in a little while,” he added.

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Posted 20 November 2020 - 01:30 PM

View PostLFC, on 20 November 2020 - 11:01 AM, said:

[slow head shake] Can he Trumpsuck any harder without imploding his own skull?

One proposal is to rename the grave markers as "Trumpstones."

I would contribute to a fund to place "Trump/BidenPence" markers on all of those graves.

(Corrected, thanks pwnguy)
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"Robots aren't the problem. Capitalism is." -- Last words of Stephen Hawking.
These days, "libertarian" is just a euphemism for a Nazi who's afraid to commit.
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Posted 20 November 2020 - 01:55 PM

View PostD. C. Sessions, on 20 November 2020 - 01:30 PM, said:

One proposal is to rename the grave markers as "Trumpstones."

I would contribute to a fund to place "Trump/Biden" markers on all of those graves.
Did you mean Trump/Pence? You could add "Make American Gravediggers Active"
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Posted 20 November 2020 - 02:13 PM

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Kilmeade’s remarks join the small but growing chorus of Trump allies who have been urging the President, who’s been blocking Biden’s transition efforts and trying to undo the election with bogus lawsuits, to at least brief the President-elect on the administration’s operations.

Trump will never voluntarily do this. The fate of America, or even the GOP, means absolutely nothing to him. Just as he spent 4 years undoing everything Obama touched, out of spite, he will spend the next 2 months doing whatever he can to prevent a smooth transition. And his close Sickophants will go along with it.
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Posted 20 November 2020 - 05:14 PM

Another sign that Faux News is losing its grip for not being insane enough.

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It was during the million MAGAmarch, as a group of marchers was chanting “Fox News sucks, Fox News sucks,” that it occurred to me that Fox News may be on the precipice of Fox Newsing itself out of existence. Perhaps it was inevitable that at some point the outrage machine would be unable to manufacture the necessary outrage to perpetuate itself, but I didn’t think it would be the election of 2020 that triggered it.

Historically, Fox News has been able to successfully untether itself from the truth on matters like the coronavirus, caravans, (what happened to those?), Seth Rich trutherism. But when it came to the election, well, that was trickier, because Fox has an independent election decision desk that does not shape its facts around the president of the United States’ feelings.

But the problem is that Fox had built an audience that had gotten more and more radicalized with each passing year by Fox’s content. So by Election Night, when Fox anchors suddenly wanted to play things straight, it created a phenomenon whereby Fox News was unable to keep up with the conservative outrage generated by Fox News.

For the last few years, Fox News’ opinion shows have managed to skirt the edges of reality, pumping everything from insane conspiracy theories to white nationalist talking points. Who could forget when a Trump-appointed judge noted of Tucker Carlson, with regard to Carlson’s ranting about Trump accuser Karen McDougal, that “whether the Court frames Mr. Carlson's statements as 'exaggeration,' 'non-literal commentary,' or simply bloviating for his audience, the conclusion remains the same—the statements are not actionable." But while the courts might consider Tucker too wacky to be believed, millions of Fox viewers consider his word to be gospel. This terrible disinformation clearinghouse wasn’t a problem for Fox news until it was.

You see, Fox News created the perfect feedback loop, from their opinion hosts to their viewers. And one of those viewers was, theoretically at least, “the leader of the free world.” For a while this worked beautifully for Fox (though less well for America as a whole). The president used his millions of Twitter followers to spread Fox News messaging. It was actually rather seamless. Of course there was this little problem that much of Fox News’ news was highly exaggerated or just untrue, but that didn’t bother Trump because Fox echoed (and perhaps created) a lot of these RNC talking points. Brian Stelter pointed out in his book Hoax that, "At 9 o'clock sharp, the president is watching Hannity deliver the talking points that they have already discussed."

The feedback cycle relied on Fox and Trump sharing the same reality. Which largely they did. Until they didn’t. The problem with the Fox News feedback loop was that it thrilled and delighted its viewers with an endless montage of “boomer outrage porn,” like videos of people dressed in black clothing who were deemed “antifa” or gaffes of liberal Hollywood actors who were of touch with real America. And the problem with boomer outrage porn is that it needs to continue to outrage. There’s a serotonin hit that needs to be produced. Perhaps at first that hit can be produced by a tan suit mini-scandal. But it always needs more scandal to feed the outrage. Eventually this outrage weaponized its own audience against itself.

Fox News hasn’t exactly embraced the election results, but it hasn’t exactly not either. Fox anchors’ handling of the current situation range from the insanely conspiratorial Maria Bartiromo, who has lately insisted that computers are stealing the president’s votes, to weekend anchor Eric Shawn, who debunked the bulk of Trump’s voter fraud conspiracy theory.

Now, Fox News is having trouble keeping up with the unhinged product being peddled on other far right networks like One America News and Newsmax. Newsmax has leaned in to this, airing a commercial with Mike Huckabee. A voiceover says, “Fake news is a real problem, that’s why millions turn to Newsmax," as a parade of right-wing faces, including Huckabee's, dances across the screen. This is, as Beast writer Justin Baragona points out, “a shameless play for Trump loyalists disenchanted with Fox News having called the election for President-elect Joe Biden and largely dismissed President Donald Trump’s baseless allegations of a ‘stolen’ election.”

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Posted 21 November 2020 - 11:12 AM

View PostBact PhD, on 20 November 2020 - 12:34 PM, said:

Even better if the word were to be never, ever uttered again -- negative attention is still attention.

What will happen to bridge? Can we never draw trumps again? And is isn't "Seven No-Trumps, Doubled and Redoubled" a beautiful, life-enhancing phrase?
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Posted 22 November 2020 - 10:55 AM

 Rich T Bikkies, on 21 November 2020 - 11:12 AM, said:



What will happen to bridge? Can we never draw trumps again? And is isn't "Seven No-Trumps, Doubled and Redoubled" a beautiful, life-enhancing phrase?
You mean people still play bridge? Moreover, “NO Trump” is the phrase uttered, no?
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Posted 24 November 2020 - 09:22 AM

Laura Ingraham, one of Faux News's top liars, finally caves.

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Reliably pro-Trump Fox News host Laura Ingraham had some heartbreaking news for her audience: Elections are real, and so was President Donald Trump’s defeat.

“As unpleasant and disappointing as these past three weeks have been to so many of us, as much as we wish things were different, this is where things stand tonight,” Ingraham lamented after Trump affirmed the General Services Administration’s decision to allow President-elect Joe Biden to begin transitioning.

“Unless the legal situation changes in a dramatic and frankly in an unlikely manner, Joe Biden will be inaugurated on January 20th,” Ingraham said.

Insisted that she wasn’t being a “sellout” in the conservative movement, the Fox News host pointed out the clear unlikelihood that Trump’s flimsy legal challenges against the election outcome would go anywhere.

“To say this constitutes living in reality,” she said. “And if I offered you a false reality, if I told you there was an excellent, phenomenal chance that the Supreme Court was going to step in and deliver a victory to President Trump, I’d be lying to you.”

"False reality?" "Lying to you?" Oh, honey. That's your bread and butter!
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Posted 24 November 2020 - 03:52 PM

Oh Tucker. Your "reasonable" shtick just never lasts very long.

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On Fox News Monday, Tucker Carlson — who just a few days previously criticized President Donald Trump’s attorney for refusing to provide evidence for voter fraud conspiracy theories — attacked the entire voting process as unfair.

“Other countries understand it, they don’t use electronic voting because they know it undermines confidence in democracy,” said Carlson. “We ought to revert immediately to the traditional system of voting, the one that served our democracy for hundreds of years … but at the same time, we shouldn’t let our focus on voting machines distract us from all that happened earlier this month. The 2020 presidential election was not fair. No honest person would claim that it was fair.”

“On many levels, the system was rigged against one candidate and in favor of another, and it was rigged in ways that were not hidden from view,” Carlson continued. “We all saw it happen. The media openly colluded with the Democratic nominee. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris refused to explain what they would do if they were elected. That’s never happened before in any presidential election in American history.” (In fact, Biden and Harris had pages and pages of policy plans, whereas Trump couldn’t explain what he even wanted a second term for.)


So what's not fair? The fact that your team's voter suppression efforts failed to deliver? And bonus Doofus Points™ for whining and lying that Biden and Harris didn't tell us what they'd do if they won while your team literally refused to even attempt to pass a party platform.
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Posted 24 November 2020 - 06:28 PM

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“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

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Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

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On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


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Posted 25 November 2020 - 02:14 PM

Faux News finally settled the lawsuit over their lies about Seth Rich.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 25 November 2020 - 03:14 PM

View PostLFC, on 25 November 2020 - 02:14 PM, said:

Faux News finally settled the lawsuit over their lies about Seth Rich.
Whenever their deliberate lies result in the loss of money, we should rejoice.
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Posted 25 November 2020 - 03:47 PM

View Postpnwguy, on 25 November 2020 - 03:14 PM, said:

Whenever their deliberate lies result in the loss of money, we should rejoice.

"Seven figures" would make anyone listen. We need more of these EVERY time they lie
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Posted 25 November 2020 - 04:15 PM

“We ought to revert immediately to the traditional system of voting, the one that served our democracy for hundreds of years"

White, male property owners?
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Posted 25 November 2020 - 04:15 PM

 baw1064, on 25 November 2020 - 04:15 PM, said:

“We ought to revert immediately to the traditional system of voting, the one that served our democracy for hundreds of years"

White, male property owners?
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The trouble is that editors and their journalists are simply employees of large profit-seeking corporations whose executives have no idea of what "truth" is; only "ratings" or "clicks" or share price. ~Rich T Bikkies, 10/1/2020

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