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Posted 23 December 2019 - 03:54 PM

View PostLFC, on 23 December 2019 - 03:15 PM, said:

TPM has a fascinating rundown on how a lot of the Ukraine nonsense was spawned by that nation's National Anti Corruption Bureau, set up because existing authorities were so f***ing corrupt. They apparently supplied information on Paul Manafort and the infamous black ledger to the NYT. Despite screeching that it was faked a lot of it (at least pertaining to Manafort) has been independently confirmed through bank records. Corrupt prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko then opened an investigation on its leadership (Sounds like a Republican, doesn't he?) and the nexus of corrupt politicians in Ukraine and the U.S. started spinning their tales.

Russia promoted Manafort as campaign manager to get the Republican platform changed as it relates to Ukraine. Unproven yes, but it's an awfully big coincidence that Manafort just happens to do what Putin wants him to. So maybe Ukrainians did surface the black ledger to discredit Manafort and leaked it to DNC. Is that interfering in US elections? If so, then both Russia and Ukraine were interfering.

What does all that have to do with Trump muscling the current Ukrainian president to announce an investigation of Biden? Nothing. It has nothing to do with the subject matter of the impeachment. It isn't a viable defense for Trump's behavior.

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Posted 23 December 2019 - 05:15 PM

"It isn't a viable defense for Trump's behavior." Relevance, schmelevance,. . . so what?

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Posted 14 January 2020 - 05:25 PM

Moscow Mitch and the Mango Musollinni's primary electoral ally, Russia, is going full tilt. Remember that Trump has denied this is even happening and Moscow Mitch has blocked ever attempt to address it. They, along with all Republicans not screaming at full volume to address this, are traitors.

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In an MSNBC panel discussion Tuesday, former FBI assistant director for counterintelligence, Frank Figliuzzi, warned that American law has not kept up with technology. As a result, the laws and regulations on international hacking are ambiguous. The recent act by Russia to hack the Ukrainian oil and gas company Burisma to search for dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden is exactly what former special counsel Robert Mueller cautioned would happen in 2020.

“We have been told, including by Bob Mueller, that Russians were doing this in an ongoing fashion,” said Figliuzzi. “This is the new battlefield. This is the new normal. We’re going to see this go on and on and on. And it may be Joe Biden that this is about right now, but every candidate should hunker down and get ready for foreign influence, hacking and propaganda.”

Former FBI special agent Clint Watts explained that the way the American government protects against cyber-espionage is really only isolated to .gov and .mil sites and accounts. They don’t have the bandwidth to protect every .com in the United States. So, companies like CrowdStrike, which President Donald Trump has accused of some type of conspiracy, is a private company that helps corporations, banks or law firms protect their networks.

Figliuzzi went on to say that it’s clear the Russians don’t care about intruding in the American election because no one will stop them.

“The similarity that you’re describing is what’s so brazen about this,” he said. “Russians made no effort to try something different. This is a message to us that, look, we don’t fear any reprisal. No one’s going to push back on us, so why should we bother masking our identity? We could pretend to be Iranians; they’ve done that before. We could pretend to be North Korean. We could pretend to be the 400-pound guy in his bed but no, we’re going to leave a trail of bread crumbs that you’ve seen before. It leads right to us. Now do something about it. That’s the challenge we’re facing with Russia.”

Host Katy Tur went on to ask Watts what the security apparatus can do when the president of the United States goes so far as to put out misinformation and propaganda to help his campaign.

Watts explained that’s why Trump was asked what he would do if compromising material was given to him by a foreign government again. Reporters asked Trump if he would hand it over to the FBI, and he said “no,” and he would willingly collude with the foreign power again. Watts said that when foreign governments see Trump’s comments, then they are more willing to intrude on the election more openly now.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

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Posted 14 January 2020 - 05:27 PM

Putin's poodle. Remember when they said Obama was weak for acknowledging reality? But Trump is strong when he's lead around by the nose.

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Video has emerged of Russian president Vladimir Putin and Syrian president Bashar Al-Assad having a laugh at President Trump’s expense during Putin’s visit to Damascus last week.

“If Trump arrives along this road [to Damascus], everything will become normal with him too,” Assad said, according to a translation of the conversation. Putin then quipped that Trump would jump at the offer and if not, he’ll convince him to visit the country’s capital. “It will be repaired… invite him. He will come.” Assad replied that he’s ready to invite Trump. Putin then smiles and says, “I will tell him.”

The inspiration for the joke was the biblical story of the Apostle Paul, who was struck blind by God while on a road to Damascus, only later to be transformed into a follower of Christ.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 15 January 2020 - 09:39 AM

Just a summary from about a year ago on just how purchased Moscow Mitch really is. Old ground we've covered somewhat but it should be repeated over and over through the entire election. The GOP is now the Guardians of Putin.

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Ukrainian-born billionaire Len Blavatnik, who holds dual U.S.-U.K. citizenship, used to be a fairly run-of-the-mill campaign contributor, donating relatively modest amounts in a bipartisan fashion — and then the 2016 election cycle hit.

Beginning in 2015, Blavatnik lavished contributions on Republicans, with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell alone on the receiving end of $3.5 million between 2015 and 2017.

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Blavatnik contributed a total of $3.5 million to a PAC associated with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. Blavatnik contributed $1.5 million to the GOP Senate Leadership Fund PAC in the name of Access Industries and another $1 million in the name of AI-Altep Holdings during the 2015/2016 election season. And as of September 2017, he had contributed another $1 million this year through AI–Altep.

Blavatnik, whose family emigrated to the U.S. in the late 1970s, is a longtime business associate of Russian oligarchs Oleg Deripaska and Viktor Vekselberg, both of whom have ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Along with McConnell, Republican Senators Marco Rubio and Lindsey Graham received hefty sums from Blavatnik as well.

Read the full report here.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 03:25 PM

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 10:37 AM

Fascist dictator wannabe' Donald Trump continues his war on the press. He may be dumb, he may be nuts, and he may be stupendously ignorant but he knows that reality is most definitely not his friend.

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President Donald Trump has blocked CNN anchors from attending a private annual lunch hosted by the White House on the day of the State of the Union, according to the network

Three unnamed sources told CNN on Monday that the network’s anchors would not be invited to the presidential lunch, which is traditionally held off the record for news anchors from top networks who plan to cover the State of the Union speech.

CNN anchors Anderson Cooper and Wolf Blitzer were guests last year.

The network is one of Trump’s favorite targets in his frequent attacks against the press over negative coverage.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 11:13 AM

View PostLFC, on 04 February 2020 - 10:37 AM, said:

Fascist dictator wannabe' Donald Trump continues his war on the press. He may be dumb, he may be nuts, and he may be stupendously ignorant but he knows that reality is most definitely not his friend.
So does Russia Today have their anchors attend?
"All glory to the HypnoTrump, or else..."

"It all makes sense when you remind yourself that the GOP is no longer a political party but turned into an organized crime family"

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 11:53 AM

View Postpnwguy, on 04 February 2020 - 11:13 AM, said:

So does Russia Today have their anchors attend?

No need. They have direct access to Trump.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 12:21 PM

View PostLFC, on 04 February 2020 - 11:53 AM, said:

No need. They have direct access to Trump.
Yes, but it helps to still feed them some Stoli and massages from some of Jeffrey Epstein's leftover stable, to keep them pliant. It might be part of Putin's contract with Dumpster.
"All glory to the HypnoTrump, or else..."

"It all makes sense when you remind yourself that the GOP is no longer a political party but turned into an organized crime family"

"I hope to live long enough that the name Trump is reviled as much as the name Hitler or Stalin"

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 12:51 PM

View Postpnwguy, on 04 February 2020 - 12:21 PM, said:

Yes, but it helps to still feed them some Stoli and massages from some of Jeffrey Epstein's leftover stable, to keep them pliant. It might be part of Putin's contract with Dumpster.

That reads like a quote from the dialogue in a sci-fi novel.
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Posted 04 February 2020 - 01:18 PM

View Postpnwguy, on 04 February 2020 - 11:13 AM, said:

So does Russia Today have their anchors attend?

Why would they attend. They get their talking points before Trump gets his orders.
Well, fuck.

How can I be expected to distinguish BS from reality when so much of my reality is utter BS?!

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Posted 04 February 2020 - 02:06 PM

The real life realities of Trump's war on the media and it's inconvenient propensity for reporting the truth rather than bowing before him and regurgitating his wisdom. You know, like Faux News.

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For the first time in its four decades of existence, the Committee to Protect Journalists—which usually focuses on the curtailment of press freedoms in authoritarian countries—has just issued a “safety kit” outlining specific physical safeguards for American reporters covering the 2020 presidential election.

Especially reporters who attend campaign rallies staged by President Donald Trump.

“We felt it was a good time to create something specific to the United States,” CPJ’s Emergencies Director Maria Salazar-Ferro told The Daily Beast. “We’ve been speaking to journalists who have been to recent rallies, and the rhetoric is coming from people who are participating in the rallies, and there was a lot of aggression around ‘fake news’ and ‘the press is the enemy.’ And it’s reverberating beyond the actual political event as well as online.”

Salazar-Ferro attributed the surge in U.S. journalists’ anxiety largely to Trump, who at campaign rallies regularly refers to the reporters who cover him as “scum,” “the enemy of the people,” “stupid,” “very rude,” “liars,” and “the lowest form of human life”—an insult which at least grants journalists their humanity.


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The safety kit—which was prepared by CPJ’s London-based security consultant, Colin Pereira of HP Risk Management—is crammed with the kind of advice that might also work for a person who has suddenly been dropped into a tiger’s cage.

It includes such tips as “Look out for individuals in the crowd who may become aggressive or cause trouble, and try to avoid them as much as possible”; “Wear clothing without media company branding and remove media logos from equipment and vehicles if necessary”; “If the crowd or speakers are hostile to the media, mentally prepare for verbal abuse”; and “If a crowd becomes hostile to the media it may help to deliberately avoid eye contact and stop taking pictures.”

“The overall impression,” Pereira told The Daily Beast, “is that there’s an uptick in incidents against journalists. The feeling is the climate has gotten much more hostile…

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 12:44 PM

The Hill finally completed its review of John Solomon's articles lies on the Ukrainian nonsense. They soft pedaled the lies pretty badly but admit that what he did wasn't journalism.

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The Hill held back from squarely addressing the actions of its former columnist John Solomon in a long-awaited review released Wednesday morning, declining to address factual inaccuracies in Solomon’s 2019 series on Ukraine.

Instead, the D.C.-based news website turned its gaze towards an arguably less consequential aspect of the fourteen columns that Solomon published last year: the way the articles blurred the distinction between opinion writing and news writing.

The Hill launched a review of Solomon’s columns in November 2019, as the House conducted an impeachment inquiry into President Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine into announcing investigations that would substantiate the allegations in Solomon’s columns.

Those allegations, which suggest that Joe Biden abused his position as vice president to fire a Ukrainian prosecutor investigating a company where his son Hunter Biden served on the board, were never substantiated, and were consistently contradicted at the time by on-the-record witnesses and publicly available information. Solomon relied on dubious sources to make his claims, virtually all of whom had obvious conflicts of interests.

The Hill addressed aspects of this in its review, noting that Solomon, who left the website in October 2019, “failed to identify important details about key Ukrainian sources, including the fact that they had been indicted or were under investigation. In other cases, the sources were his own attorneys.”

But broadly, the review focuses less on Solomon’s misrepresentations — and his use of his own attorney Victoria Toensing as a “source” — and goes instead towards the extent to which he cloaked his role as a columnist in that of an investigative reporter.

The Hill cited numerous instances and ways in which Solomon’s Ukraine columns had the effect of “blurring the distinction between news and opinion for some readers,” including the length of the articles and that they “contained what could be viewed or was identified by him as original reporting.”

The review concluded that “Solomon’s Ukraine columns represented a departure from The Hill’s standard opinion content because they attempted to blend opinion and investigative, ‘original reporting’ material. The Hill will avoid such blending of reporting and opinion columns going forward.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer





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