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Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH) Proposes Democratic Economic Plan for Workers


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Posted 03 May 2017 - 02:16 PM

I only read the article once but it's certainly interesting. I have serious doubts about the Dems being able to sell it since I have serious doubts about the Dems being able to sell much of anything but some of the fundamental ideas seem sound. My big question is, of course, are they workable?

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Two weeks after the election, Minority Leader Chuck Schumer summed up why he thought Democrats got clobbered at the ballot box: “We did not have a strong, bold economic message.”

That problem appears to have been particularly acute in the Rust Belt, where unexpected Democratic losses in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Ohio helped put Donald Trump into the White House.

Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio is offering one corrective vision for what Democrats hoping to retake the Midwest should do. Brown, 64, is already being written about as a 2020 presidential contender. He’s widely regarded as one of the caucus’s most left-wing members, but also speaks with the credibility of having won multiple statewide elections in purple territory by big margins.

And earlier this congressional session, Brown released a detailed, 77-page plan detailing a suite of economic policy proposals that suggest what his “economic populism” would look like for Democrats. His ideas include greater bargaining rights for union workers, a $15 minimum wage, a crackdown on employers who treat full-time workers as independent contractors, and a “Benefits Bank” for workers whose employers don’t save for retirement.

None of these have any chance of being implemented with a Republican-controlled congress and White House. But in an interview on Tuesday, the Ohio senator detailed one of his most ambitious proposals — a “Corporate Freeloader Fee” that would penalize large corporations that pay their workers less than $24,000, while also giving tax breaks to those businesses that pay above a living wage and offer retirement and medical coverage.

“Corporations that pay good wages, take care of health benefits for their employees, those whose employees don’t have to rely on the social safety net — they should get a lower tax rate than those companies who are paying very low wages,” Brown said in an interview.

I haven't gotten a chance to read it but here's a link to the entire 77 page plan.
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Posted 03 May 2017 - 02:24 PM

Damn LFC, do you ever get any work done?
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Posted 03 May 2017 - 04:12 PM

View PostTraveler, on 03 May 2017 - 02:24 PM, said:

Damn LFC, do you ever get any work done?

I'm actually taking multiple mini-breaks from some mind-numbingly dull stuff I'm slogging through right now. I tend to read and post a lot less when I'm designing new software, a.k.a. the fun stuff.
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Posted 03 May 2017 - 07:39 PM

Why does their plan have to be so damn complex. Keep it simple stupid.
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Posted 04 May 2017 - 07:49 AM

What I don't see is anything about infrastructure. We're going to have to do it unless we just accept becoming a third-world disaster, and digging in and repairing the transportation, water, electrical (etc.) infrastructure that makes the USA productive will have both short-term (jobs) and long-term (productivity) benefits that (unlike tax cuts) really do spread through the whole population.
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Posted 04 May 2017 - 08:05 AM

View PostRabiner, on 03 May 2017 - 07:39 PM, said:

Why does their plan have to be so damn complex. Keep it simple stupid.

Like the current tax reform plan?

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 09:35 AM

View PostRabiner, on 03 May 2017 - 07:39 PM, said:

Why does their plan have to be so damn complex. Keep it simple stupid.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 09:54 AM

View PostProgressive whisperer, on 04 May 2017 - 08:05 AM, said:

Like the current tax reform plan?

If you want simple tax reform plans, there are some very simple ones:
  • Treat all income equally, regardless of source.
  • A surtax on capital income in return for zeroing out all corporate income tax.
  • Except for costs directly incurred generating income, get rid of all deductions.
  • Where deductions are currently used as tax incentives, replace them with credits. This could be done at a revenue-neutral exchange rate as needed for passage [1].
  • The financial transaction tax is invisible to everyday taxpayers and (if not given complex loopholes) just about everyone else. For most of us, it's orders of magnitude smaller than current fees.
Note that these are not facially progressive but do have that effect.

[1] E.g. the current home interest deduction being a much greater subsidy to the well-off than to the less-so.
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