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#3421 Probabilistic

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 11:35 AM

Why did it take 18 days to fire Flynn when Sally Yates informed Don McGahn about Flynn? The firing happened only because Washington Post was about to publish the story. And, that too they lied about the cause of firing.

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 12:10 PM

Brian Williams said it feels like we're living in a mob movie.

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SNBC anchor Brian Williams suggested that America may be living in a mafia movie after the latest revelations about the Trump administration.

“Tonight, there are new revelations about Michael Flynn, a legal filing from the Mueller team just this evening reveals he was approached by individuals allied with Trump who wanted to influence his dealings with Mueller and perhaps buy his silence,” Williams noted..

“Day 847 of this Trump Administration and just when we thought we knew all we could from the Mueller effort, we’ve learned something new tonight, and this confirms the feeling a lot of folks have had, that we might just be living in the midst of a mob movie,” Williams said.

MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow had a similar reaction, calling the news a “mafia-esque” move “from the president’s goon squad.”

“This story has to do with Michael Flynn, who Trump hired as National Security adviser despite being warned about it. There are new revelations tonight coming from the Russia investigation. Flynn, you may recall, lasted 24 days on the job. He pleaded guilty back in December of ‘17, lying to the FBI about his contacts with the Russian Ambassador, and he’s been cooperating with the special counsel’s investigation ever since,” Williams reported.

“A newly unredacted court filing made public late today says Flynn told Mueller’s team that people connected to Congress as well as individuals tied to the Trump Administration tried to influence his cooperation with the Russia investigation,” Williams continued.


Chris Wallace says it's clear that Barr is covering for Trump. Of course, being paid by Faux News, he has to equivocate a bit.

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Fox News Sunday anchor Chris Wallace said Friday that Attorney General Bill Barr was clearly protecting President Donald Trump.

Reacting to the attorney general’s latest interview with Fox News host Bill Hemmer, Wallace noted the contrast between Barr and Trump’s previous attorney general, Jeff Sessions.

“What really comes across to me most of all is that for two years Donald Trump sat there and said I don’t have an attorney general. I don’t have somebody out there looking for and protecting my interests. He clearly has that now with Bill Barr,” Wallace said.

“Not saying that Barr isn’t right in everything he says. But he clearly is protecting this president and advocating his point of view on a lot of these issues. I suspect that President Trump, who probably has watched some of this interview himself, is saying finally no Jeff Sessions, Bill Barr instead.”

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 09:44 AM

Now we know why Donald Trump was SO focused on Michael Flynn

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(CNN)At nearly every turn of the probe into Russian interference into the 2016 election, President Donald Trump was working to make sure Michael Flynn, his former national security adviser, knew that the White House was on his side -- and that the President himself thought Flynn was a good guy.
Now we seem to know why.

Trump was worried -- and it turns out, rightly -- that Flynn knew things that would be problematic for the President as it related to Russia. And that if Flynn cooperated with special counsel Robert Mueller's probe -- as he eventually did -- it would have negative consequences for the administration. Court records released Thursday night revealed previously unknown details of Flynn's cooperation. Here's the key bit from the story:

"The Flynn court records revealed Thursday show that the fired first national security adviser helped Mueller's investigation on at least three prongs: as the special counsel looked into interaction between the Trump transition team and Russia, WikiLeaks' release of emails during the presidential campaign and the President's efforts to interfere with the investigation. Flynn also assisted the Eastern District of Virginia and prosecutors from the Justice Department's National Security Division with a now-open case against his former lobbying partner, who allegedly worked illegally for Turkey."

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

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Posted 20 May 2019 - 11:44 AM

Deutsche Bank, a paragon of ethics, honesty, and competence, is denying they buried suspicious activity reports on accounts owned by Trump and Kushner.

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Deutsche Bank denied a report that said some of its executives rejected the advice of the bank’s own anti-money laundering specialists and prevented some transactions involving entities controlled by President Donald Trump and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, being filed with the government.

“At no time was an investigator prevented from escalating activity identified as potentially suspicious. Furthermore, suggestion that anyone was reassigned or fired in an effort to quash concerns relating to any client is categorically false,” Deutsche Bank said in a statement on Monday.

Citing five current and former Deutsche Bank employees, the New York Times reported on Sunday that the transactions, some of which involved Trump’s now-defunct foundation, set off alerts in a computer system designed to detect illicit activity.

Compliance staff members who then reviewed the transactions prepared so-called suspicious activity reports that they believed should be sent to a unit of the Treasury Department that polices financial crimes, according to the newspaper.

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 01:55 PM

New York state just cut off a path to a Trump pardon potentially being able to prevent the state from pressing charges.

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State lawmakers in New York on Tuesday passed a bill aimed at preventing associates of Donald Trump from escaping justice through presidential pardons.

“New York legislators gave final passage Tuesday to a bill that would allow state prosecutors, including New York Attorney General Letitia James, to prosecute those who’ve been pardoned of federal crimes by President Donald Trump,” the New York Law Journal reported. “That’s currently not allowed in New York because of what Democrats who back the measure have called the ‘double jeopardy loophole,’ a gap in state law that prevents state prosecutors from using the same set of facts to bring charges against a federally pardoned individual.”

The bill passed the state Assembly 90 – 52 after passing the state Senate earlier in the week.

“Since there’s inaction in Washington to stop any of this power of the pardon being abused, or in any other way stopping the president from doing whatever he wants, it’s kind of ironic that the state has to step in and enforce the state’s rights to change the law so that we can check the power of the president,” Democratic Assemblyman Joseph Lentol said.

Governor Andrew Cuomo has indicated he will sign the bill into law.

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Posted 23 May 2019 - 01:46 PM

Lindsey Graham clearly has dementia. He doesn't remember either of the Clintons' "investigations" or the endless "investigations" into Obama's supposed illegal behavior.

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Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) complained on Wednesday night that the Russia probe had subjected President Donald Trump to “two years of a political rectal exam.”

“You can say it anyway you like, but here’s the bottom line: After two years of a political rectal exam, nobody has been looked at more than Trump,” Graham said during an interview with Fox News host Sean Hannity.

“This is just political revenge,” the Republican senator continued. “It is going to blow up in their face, and I can’t wait until 2020.”

“Well said,” Hannity applauded.

Apparently anal exams are becoming Trump ally’s favored metaphor for the investigation as of late, considering that White House senior adviser Kellyanne Conway described it as a “political proctology exam” in April.

“And he’s emerging with a clean bill of health,” Conway declared.

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"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 23 May 2019 - 02:14 PM

View PostLFC, on 23 May 2019 - 01:46 PM, said:


Probably. More likely Primaryphobia. It's better to be a pinworm sucking on a polyp in Trump's recturm than to be a vertebrate.

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 10:10 AM

Trump gives Barr the power to attack our intelligence agencies for having the nerve to do their jobs. Josh Marshall talks about how dangerous and corrupt this is, especially with Barr in charge. Of course it's the expected move from the American Fascist Party. In full:

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For everyone who’s been worried about Attorney General Bill Barr’s lawless reign at the Department of Justice last night was the big moment. As you’ve likely already seen President Trump gave Barr blanket authority to access and declassify any and all classified information from the country’s dozen and a half intelligence agencies in his quest to “investigate the investigators” of the Russia scandal.There’s hardly any way to overstate just how big a deal this is or how dangerous it is in the hands of a corrupt official like Bill Barr.

First, this power is totally unprecedented. The President is the ultimate arbiter of what is and is not classified. There are processes in place and guidance he’s supposed to listen to to exercise that authority. But he doesn’t have to. Barr is free to disregard those rules, overrule the heads of the intelligence agencies in question in question or not even tell them what he’s doing.

There’s nothing sacrosanct about the judgment of the heads of these different agencies. The issue is that Barr has an agenda to help the President and punish his perceived enemies. Giving someone like that this kind of power is a recipe for disaster.

Barr has a proven record of selectively disclosing information with the aim of deceiving the public. That was what the Barr Letter was all about and he’s demonstrated that proclivity for deception ever since he took over the DOJ. This is the Barr Letter on steroids. Trump has given him the ability to selectively declassify information to create a narrative of events which supports the President. It goes without saying that if you can choose only the facts you want and sheer them of their context you can create almost any story you want. And that’s what Barr is about to do.

If anyone wants to declassify more information that clarifies the meaning of whatever Barr chose to declassify they won’t be able to. Because that’s up to the President or Bill Barr.

There’s a secondary part of this which doesn’t touch directly on propaganda creation. But it may be more important. This level of power basically gives Barr a whip hand over the entire Intelligence Community. And he seems to want to get his hands on the Russia desks especially. As the Times notes, “Mr. Barr wanted to know more about what foreign assets the C.I.A. had in Russia in 2016 and what those informants were telling the agency about how President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia sought to meddle in the 2016 election.” These are likely among the most closely held secrets the US government has. They will all but certainly be communicated directly to the President.

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 10:28 AM

When this is all over (if?) we are going to see an avalanche of bills introduced in Congress to codify what were once traditionally understood and accepted rules governing the powers and restrictions on executive and legislative branches. Trump's and others' attitudes of "I can do whatever I want unless there is a specific law against it and even then I'll push as far as I can and dare others to stop me" will lead to massive regulation of every little bit of interaction between the president and the other parts of the executive branch too.

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 11:43 AM

View Postgolden_valley, on 24 May 2019 - 10:28 AM, said:

When this is all over (if?) we are going to see an avalanche of bills introduced in Congress to codify what were once traditionally understood and accepted rules governing the powers and restrictions on executive and legislative branches.

Only if a Democrat wins.
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 11:44 AM

Mueller is apparently willing to testify but it seems like he wants to stay out of the circus lights of a public hearing.

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House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-NY) said Thursday night that special counsel Robert Mueller wants to testify privately and provide transcripts.

He told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow that Mueller is willing to give an opening statement, but that he wants the rest of his comments to be given in a closed-door session.

“He envisions himself correctly as a man of great rectitude and apolitical and he doesn’t want to participate in anything that he might regard as a political spectacle, especially if Republicans on the committee start asking him questions about about this stuff, the beginning of the investigation,” Nadler said by way of explanation. “I’m speculating really.”

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"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 02:55 PM

Little Lindsey continues his quest to be head Trumpsucker. Poor Lindsey. No matter how hard he tries and no matter who he tries to glue himself to he just can't become one of the cool kids.

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Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) joined in President Donald Trump’s attack on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and accused her of trying to distract from an internal Democratic Party struggle over impeachment.

The House speaker and Trump have traded insults since Pelosi accused him of engaging in coverup, and Graham went on “Fox & Friends” to defend Trump from growing impeachment talk.

“The Democrats are going to get him re-elected,” Graham said. “I don’t think you can become a nominee of Democratic Party without embracing impeachment. If you are a House member in the Democrat caucus you’re going to get a primary if you vote against impeachment, because the people who want to impeach this president have lost their mind and they’re driving the Democratic Party over an edge between what President Trump accomplished for this country and how crazy they have become, he’s going to get re-elected.”

Graham warned that Pelosi would lose her job if she didn’t embrace impeachment, and he said the House speaker was going after Trump to hide the intraparty challenge to her authority.

“The people she is in charge of lost their mind when it comes to Trump — a coverup,” Graham said, in a “well, I never” tone.

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 03:45 PM

View PostLFC, on 24 May 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

Only if a Democrat wins.

And a few conservative Justices croak.
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 05:27 PM

View PostRue Bella, on 24 May 2019 - 03:45 PM, said:

And a few conservative Justices croak.

Or you get 2/3 of the Senate, and you just impeach them. Why not? "Both sides do it."
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 05:33 PM

View PostProbabilistic, on 23 May 2019 - 02:14 PM, said:

Probably. More likely Primaryphobia. It's better to be a pinworm sucking on a polyp in Trump's recturm than to be a vertebrate.

Loathly, loathly metaphors.
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 06:06 PM

View Postbaw1064, on 24 May 2019 - 05:27 PM, said:

Or you get 2/3 of the Senate, and you just impeach them. Why not? "Both sides do it."

Death from 'natural causes' would be more satisfying. And much faster. Dead is dead. :o
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 06:30 PM

View PostLFC, on 24 May 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

Only if a Democrat wins.

And a full Democratic control of all of Congress...that's why I said when (if?) I'm not ready to give up yet though I realize we at TRS might all be dead before it happens.

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 06:42 PM

View PostLFC, on 24 May 2019 - 02:55 PM, said:

Little Lindsey continues his quest to be head Trumpsucker. Poor Lindsey. No matter how hard he tries and no matter who he tries to glue himself to he just can't become one of the cool kids.

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Graham warned that Pelosi would lose her job if she didn’t embrace impeachment, and he said the House speaker was going after Trump to hide the intraparty challenge to her authority.


Wow. They really do see the world as being just like them, but on the other side.
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 06:44 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 24 May 2019 - 06:30 PM, said:

And a full Democratic control of all of Congress...that's why I said when (if?) I'm not ready to give up yet though I realize we at TRS might all be dead before it happens.

Have you ever considered what it implies about our political rhetoric, that nobody is going all Arya Stark on the opposition?
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 07:09 PM

View PostD. C. Sessions, on 24 May 2019 - 06:44 PM, said:

Have you ever considered what it implies about our political rhetoric, that nobody is going all Arya Stark on the opposition?

WWAD? What would Arya do? She only had to kill one person to save humankind. We'd have to have an all out shootin' war. The only people who seem interested in that are the folks that are arming themselves against a brown or librul invasion.





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