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Posted 19 June 2019 - 07:17 AM

View PostJackD, on 18 June 2019 - 05:37 PM, said:

"Last ditch Doomsday Weapon" is wag the dog. Hints are out there.

Yup. Now go back and have a look at how long it took to keep 43 popular after the body bags started coming back. In Iran, it's not going to be a nearly bloodless invasion because these are sharp cookies.

Imagine that they move all of their portable arms and AA out of the cities and into the rough country. Cities don't resist, all of the violence hitting international news is of US troops committing war crimes with the blessing of the President, instapardoning anyone who's charged. Meanwhile, every US aircraft runs the risk of SAMs at any moment (which, BTW, runs up the war crimes rate.) Every truck convoy runs the risk of effective mines and well-trained antivehicular fire from cover over every meter of terrain -- which is often blocked.

Think of all the fun the Germans had in the Balkans, and then recall that the Iranians have been playing the same games for centuries too, PLUS having studied the past 80+ years of modern asymmetrical warfare in forests, jungles, and mountains. They've been paying attention to what worked and what didn't in Afghanistan, be sure.

Start the clock. Count the body bags. Watch for the videos of Americans firing on unarmed civilians every night.
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Posted 19 June 2019 - 09:44 AM

Instapardon... hmmm... like it. Possibly pre-pardon and a kill count leaderboard too. Then American populace can truly get behind the war. Who's up, who's down... minute by minute commentary. Pentagon can play first person videos to gin up support. CNN will show AR/VR reenactments. Device manufacturers can sell, sell, sell. New content producers and media labs will abound. The entire country will participate in the war effort. Trumptopia will reign.

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Posted 19 June 2019 - 10:09 AM

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 04:34 PM

TPM has a short piece on the Hope Hicks testimony that is titled Open For Business. She believes Trump is ready to collude ... again.

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I wouldn’t say this is altogether surprising. The President is pretty convincing on this front. But according to Jerry Nadler, in her closed door testimony, Hope Hicks told the House Judiciary Committee that she believed President Trump was serious when he said he would again accept foreign assistance in the 2020 presidential election. “Ms. Hicks made clear that she understood the president to be serious when he said that he would accept foreign interference in our elections.” The transcript of her testimony is expected to be released either today or tomorrow. As I noted last night, I expect it to come through channels like this.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 11:51 AM

Columnist E. Jean Carroll became the 22nd woman to accuse Trump of sexual assault. Remember that this number does not include his admitted perversion of ogling beauty pageant contestants as young as age 15 when they were undressed. One of Trump's supporters who used to work at the NY Post got the paper to kill the story off of their website. Not that the NY Post has ever been suitable for much of anything beyond wrapping fish.

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The Trump-supporting former editor of the New York Post and close associate of Rupert Murdoch ordered that the newspaper’s coverage of E. Jean Carroll’s sexual assault allegation against President Trump be removed from the website, CNN Business was first to report.

A person inside the Post confirmed to TPM that the article was removed from the website on Friday afternoon.

According to two people familiar with the matter who spoke to CNN Business, Col Allan, editor-in-chief-turned-adviser to the tabloid, issued the demand. The story, which was written by reporter Joe Tacopino, was no longer available on the website by Friday afternoon and the Associated Press version of the allegations was also taken down, according to CNN Business.

Allan has made his affinity for Trump clear. He left as top editor of the tabloid because his support of “the Donald” made it difficult to run the newsroom. For years, Allan worked closely with Murdoch, the Trump-supporting owner of News Corporation, which owns the Post, as well as Fox News and the Wall Street Journal.

People at the Post told CNN Business that it’s understood that Allan was brought back as an adviser to make the paper more pro-Trump. A person inside the Post told TPM that Allan’s return has had a negative impact on office morale.

“Since Col and Michelle (Gotthelf) came on, people in leadership on the digital team have been leaving left and right. Our digital managing editor and deputy online editor left within months of each other,” the person said.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 12:06 PM

View PostLFC, on 25 June 2019 - 11:51 AM, said:

Columnist E. Jean Carroll became the 22nd woman to accuse Trump of sexual assault. Remember that this number does not include his admitted perversion of ogling beauty pageant contestants as young as age 15 when they were undressed. One of Trump's supporters who used to work at the NY Post got the paper to kill the story off of their website. Not that the NY Post has ever been suitable for much of anything beyond wrapping fish.

It's already clear that Trump supporters don't care about his behavior in this regard; nor do they care about the treatment of children who've crossed borders with their parents; nor do they care about his obstructions of justice; nor do they care about his propensity to cozy up to certain dictators and strongmen. There are also a lot of people who simply don't pay attention and perceive this as all tribal noise. We are living in a Twilight Zone episode.

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 04:09 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 25 June 2019 - 12:06 PM, said:

It's already clear that Trump supporters don't care about his behavior in this regard; nor do they care about the treatment of children who've crossed borders with their parents; nor do they care about his obstructions of justice; nor do they care about his propensity to cozy up to certain dictators and strongmen. There are also a lot of people who simply don't pay attention and perceive this as all tribal noise. We are living in a Twilight Zone episode.
His base could cheer him on if he went to the southern border with a bayonet and speared a bunch of immigrant children. But if one of his old paramours comes out and declares he paid for her abortion, then there would be trouble.
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 04:18 PM

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 05:50 PM

So his alibi is "I only rape people who are more attractive than that"?
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 06:02 PM

View Postbaw1064, on 25 June 2019 - 05:50 PM, said:

So his alibi is "I only rape people who are more attractive than that"?

He's consistent. He's used the same alibi before.

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 06:31 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 25 June 2019 - 12:06 PM, said:

It's already clear that Trump supporters don't care about his behavior in this regard; nor do they care about the treatment of children who've crossed borders with their parents; nor do they care about his obstructions of justice; nor do they care about his propensity to cozy up to certain dictators and strongmen.

That's just not true. They do care, a lot. Those are some of the things they admire most about him.
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"Robots aren't the problem. Capitalism is." -- Last words of Stephen Hawking.
These days, "libertarian" is just a euphemism for a Nazi who's afraid to commit.
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"I'd rather have my child, but by golly, if I gotta give her up, we're gonna make it count." -- Her mother
"Your purpose, then, plainly stated, is that you will destroy the Government, unless you be allowed to construe and enforce the Constitution as you please, on all points in dispute between you and us. You will rule or ruin in all events." -- some RINO

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 06:34 PM

View Postpnwguy, on 25 June 2019 - 04:09 PM, said:

But if one of his old paramours comes out and declares he paid for her abortion, then there would be trouble.

You'd see abortion drop off the agenda almost as fast as Jerry Falwell put it on.
The way a lot of catastrophes happen is that X doesn't occur because there are safeguards in place, therefore people assume X isn't a worry and they remove the safeguards. Then X happens.
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"Robots aren't the problem. Capitalism is." -- Last words of Stephen Hawking.
These days, "libertarian" is just a euphemism for a Nazi who's afraid to commit.
"If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention." -- Heather Heyer
"I'd rather have my child, but by golly, if I gotta give her up, we're gonna make it count." -- Her mother
"Your purpose, then, plainly stated, is that you will destroy the Government, unless you be allowed to construe and enforce the Constitution as you please, on all points in dispute between you and us. You will rule or ruin in all events." -- some RINO

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 07:37 PM

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But if one of his old paramours comes out and declares he paid for her abortion, then there would be trouble.

I'm surprised this hasnt happened already. He'd just deny it, of course.
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Posted 26 June 2019 - 06:44 AM

Trump's personal lawyers, also known as the DOJ, tries and fails to block the emoluments case.

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The federal judge in congressional Democrats’ Emolument Clause lawsuit against President Donald Trump has yet again rejected an attempt by the President to derail the case.

In a 12-page opinion Tuesday, Judge Emmet Sullivan rejected Justice Department lawyers’ attempt to delay the discovery phase of the suit by appealing Sullivan’s previous opinions.

Contrary to the requirements of the law governing such “interlocutory” appeals, Sullivan wrote, “the President has made little effort to demonstrate” that an appeal would “materially advance the ultimate termination of the litigation.”

He added later: “This case will be poised for resolution within six months; an immediate appeal would hardly materially advance its ultimate termination.”

In other words: Not good enough.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 27 June 2019 - 02:41 PM

More grift from the ego-driven manchild.

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During the first year of Donald Trump’s presidency, the Trump International Hotel in Washington charged the Secret Service more than $200,000 in taxpayer money, including a bill topping $30,000 for two days of use, according to expense documents obtained by NBC News.

The documents, obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request covering Secret Service expenditures, detail money the agency spent at the property from September 2016 to February 2018, which came to a total of $215,254.

While the nature of the charges were not disclosed in the documents, the hotel five blocks from the White House has become a go-to venue for Trump and his supporters for various events, including a fundraiser the president attended Tuesday for his re-election campaign.

These type of events inevitably require Secret Service detail and heavy use of the property and food services to accommodate and feed personnel.

The agency paid $33,638 for unspecified charges over two days in June, which coincided with Trump's first re-election campaign fundraiser. Guests paid $35,000 a plate, according to The Washington Post.

Other charges paid out by the Secret Service include a bill for $14,900 for two days in June 2017 and another for $11,475 for two days the next month, according to the documents obtained by NBC News.

The Secret Service said in a statement Wednesday that it could not discuss costs or resources used to carry out its work.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 28 June 2019 - 11:40 AM

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Posted 28 June 2019 - 12:05 PM

Two assholes enjoying each other's company.

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Posted 02 July 2019 - 11:35 AM

Yet another new low for the Trump administration. (Not a lowest low, just another hole in the soul of our nation.) Trump has desperately wanted a military show with him standing center stage for quite some time. He's going to get a mini version of it at the July Fourth celebrations in D.C. but that ain't all. It's a new brand of political corruption. And Republicans are all in.

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We’ve seen all the stories about tanks in DC and the Trumpified Fourth of July celebration later this week. These things are wrong. They’re grotesque. But last night I saw something quite different. According to HuffPost, the RNC has been given tickets to distribute for the event. It’s already clear that this is in substance going to be another Trump political rally. But it’s on US government property. It’s paid for by the US government and in significant part by the US military. It not includes display of heavy weaponry. Trump will apparently have the heads of each uniformed service on stage with him as he speaks. Tickets distributed by the RNC are by definition used for fundraising purposes even if they are not directly sold to donors for a certain contribution price. They’re used to leverage political contributions.

As I said, the rest is grotesque. But most of what we’ve seen is about “norms”. This is different. There are all sorts of regulations and laws about commingling US government events and the President’s political party, especially the President selling military events to GOP donors to raise money for the President’s re-election campaign and for funds to retake the House in next year’s election.

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" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 09:35 AM

View PostLFC, on 02 July 2019 - 11:35 AM, said:

Yet another new low for the Trump administration. (Not a lowest low, just another hole in the soul of our nation.) Trump has desperately wanted a military show with him standing center stage for quite some time. He's going to get a mini version of it at the July Fourth celebrations in D.C. but that ain't all. It's a new brand of political corruption. And Republicans are all in.

I just saw on the news this AM that his hijacking of celebrations to make it a political rally are going to siphon $2.5M from National Park Service fees that were slated for park operation and maintenance. Real nice. You's think somebody worth $8B (according to him) could pull that out of their pocket. [/snark]
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 09:54 AM

We had a discussion elsewhere on the statutory (or not) origins of the military regulations against even so much as appearing at partisan events in uniform or insignia. Seems that they're statutory, which means that Trump doesn't have the authority to make exceptions. That so, the RNC tickets are evidence enough in advance that a court could enjoin the military officers from attending in uniform and the various military resources from being used (also maybe Park Service, dunno).

As it stands, the officers are going to be in hot water if they show up regardless of the injunction or lack thereof and I suspect that the JAGs are telling them so. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
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"I'd rather have my child, but by golly, if I gotta give her up, we're gonna make it count." -- Her mother
"Your purpose, then, plainly stated, is that you will destroy the Government, unless you be allowed to construe and enforce the Constitution as you please, on all points in dispute between you and us. You will rule or ruin in all events." -- some RINO





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