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Posted 12 January 2019 - 04:08 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 12 January 2019 - 02:12 PM, said:

Roger Cohen at NYT quotes from some guy who defined the difference between a lie and bullshit.

Sounds like the distinction between immoral and amoral.
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 06:34 AM

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 10:02 AM

Surprisingly, soybean futures not so bad.
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Posted 13 January 2019 - 10:04 AM

View Postbaw1064, on 12 January 2019 - 04:08 PM, said:

Sounds like the distinction between immoral and amoral.
Actually, both. It wasn't BS to keep the translator notes.
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Posted 14 January 2019 - 10:28 AM

Frum: Trump Has Defeated Himself

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Well, that was the shortest, most easily resolved national emergency in U.S. history. Twelve hours ago, the president was preparing to set aside the regular process of law. By 9 p.m. eastern time? Not so much.

Perhaps somebody pointed out that 15-year civil-engineering projects do not look very convincingly like emergency measures. “My house is burning! Time to begin the process of calling for design proposals for a new fire station.”

President Donald Trump is about to discover the reverse side of Richard Neustadt’s famous observation that the most important presidential power is the power to persuade. Trump’s conduct as candidate and president long ago deprived him of any power to persuade anyone not already predisposed to support him. To date, Trump has governed by leveraging his high approval rating within the Republican Party. From the point of view of former Speaker Paul Ryan and Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Trump’s 90 percent approval rating among Republicans mattered a lot more than his 39 percent approval rating among Americans in general.

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

— Carl Sagan
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
1995


“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

— H.L. Mencken
On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

— Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Second inaugural address January, 1937

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Posted 14 January 2019 - 07:30 PM

View PostAnBr, on 14 January 2019 - 10:28 AM, said:


Wait -- Frum writes as though Trump had actually noticed that his position was not commanding. Either this is news that I can't find or our old buddy David is losing contact with reality.
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Posted 15 January 2019 - 03:51 PM

View PostD. C. Sessions, on 14 January 2019 - 07:30 PM, said:

Wait -- Frum writes as though Trump had actually noticed that his position was not commanding. Either this is news that I can't find or our old buddy David is losing contact with reality.

"Losing" contact with reality? Mr. "vote for Romney because you can't believe what he says"? David has been adrift for a long time.
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Posted 15 January 2019 - 03:57 PM

View PostLFC, on 15 January 2019 - 03:51 PM, said:


"Losing" contact with reality? Mr. "vote for Romney because you can't believe what he says"? David has been adrift for a long time.

He just can't quit the ideology and Party that he professed years ago.

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Posted 15 January 2019 - 05:47 PM

View PostTraveler, on 13 January 2019 - 10:02 AM, said:

Surprisingly, soybean futures not so bad.
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