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#1381 andydp

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Posted 26 June 2019 - 10:54 AM

NRA shuts down NRATV: report


The National Rifle Association will no longer produce live content for NRATV, its broadcasting media arm, the New York Times reported on Tuesday.


The NRA has also cut ties with Ackerman McQueen, the advertising firm that operated NRATV, the Times reported, citing interviews and documents.

“Many members expressed concern about the messaging on NRATV becoming too far removed from our core mission: defending the Second Amendment,” Wayne LaPierre, the NRA’s longtime chief executive, wrote in a message to members that the Times reported was expected to be sent out by Wednesday.
“So, after careful consideration, I am announcing that starting today, we are undergoing a significant change in our communications strategy. We are no longer airing ‘live TV’ programming.


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If you've got public schools paid for by taxpayers, you're in a socialist nation. If you have public roads paid for by taxpayers, socialist nation. If you've got public defense (police, fire, military, coast guard) paid for by tax dollars, socialist nation. If you're in a nation that has nationalized or localized delivery of services that are not paid for by users alone, you're in a socialist nation- the only question is how socialist. As I see it, we have the military pay to protecting the shipping lanes for our fuel needs which makes up very socialist. In a capitalist nation, the people supplying the oil would pay for their own defense force.


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Posted 27 June 2019 - 12:17 AM

How I laughed! I'm still laughing. But the times are so out of joint that it probably doesn't mean a great deal in the bigger picture. Even if God struck dead the entire board and senior management of the NRA, and Donald Trump and all his Administration, you'd (we'd!) still be stuck with the Republican Party and all who vote for them (Oregon?!). Brethren[1], we are in deep doo-doos, and I don't mean maybe.

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Posted 27 June 2019 - 09:24 AM

German is "Schwestern" in case that helps.
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Posted 17 July 2019 - 04:46 PM

The rats are leaving the SS NRA.

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Another top National Rifle Association official, Jennifer Baker, is out at the organization amid ongoing inner tumult.

Baker was the director of public affairs for the NRA’s lobbying arm, the Institute for Legislative Action.

In a statement to TPM, the NRA downplayed the departure as part of “a reorganization of its public affairs function this week.”

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 04:28 PM

While NRA is imploding or whatever it is it is doing, the fruits of its earlier labor are being harvested. The guy who shot up the Gilroy Garlic Festival in CA bought his firearm in Nevada.

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“I don’t know how any society can regulate evil,” said Don Turner, head of the advocacy group the Nevada Firearms Coalition. “I’m pretty convinced that more and more laws aren’t the answer.”

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I'm sure he is convinced of that. I'm also sure he has no answer beyond "moar guns"

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 07:02 AM

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“I don’t know how any society can regulate evil,” said Don Turner, head of the advocacy group the Nevada Firearms Coalition. “I’m pretty convinced that more and more laws aren’t the answer.”


Tell that to the religious right.
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 08:44 AM

Death count by ARs is still not where it needs to be to wake our nation up. Gun enthusiasts are still defending themselves while our nation is riddled with mass shootings and we do nothing. Again. Perhaps the only way to wake them up is so horrific we don't even want to think about it. But then, have we not all been horrified enough yet?
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 10:15 AM

View PostSinan, on 30 July 2019 - 08:44 AM, said:

But then, have we not all been horrified enough yet?

The answer appears to be "no". The media immediately goes on a hunt of "why did he do it?"

The powers that be are relieved to be told it's a lone crazy person or a wild eyed terrorist. We can't predict one and the other means we have to keep Muslims out of the country. Problem solved!

The nutters say "more guns!" to protect ourselves.

Everyone misses the fundamental point. The killer killed because he wanted to kill. That's the only "why" we need to understand. But if we understand that, then someone might suggest removing the tool used to kill and we can't have that.

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 11:50 AM

View PostSinan, on 30 July 2019 - 08:44 AM, said:

Death count by ARs is still not where it needs to be to wake our nation up. Gun enthusiasts are still defending themselves while our nation is riddled with mass shootings and we do nothing. Again. Perhaps the only way to wake them up is so horrific we don't even want to think about it. But then, have we not all been horrified enough yet?

When someone takes out the offices of the NRA, or a dozen Republican Senators [1], they might start considering that there may be a problem. One good Georgetown cocktail party would go a long way.


[1] Am I being repetitious?
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 12:16 PM

Even if the NRA collapses, all the gun nuts will migrate to another home, hardly breaking stride. But watching that gang of murderous fanatics eat themselves warms the cockles of my tired worn-out old heart.
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 12:17 PM

View PostD. C. Sessions, on 30 July 2019 - 11:50 AM, said:

When someone takes out the offices of the NRA, or a dozen Republican Senators [1], they might start considering that there may be a problem. One good Georgetown cocktail party would go a long way.


[1] Am I being repetitious?
The solution will be that all good Republican senators need to pack a Glock. The party will push regulations to allow congressional members to carry firearms into the Capitol (as long as they are Republican). Can you picture a future Mueller hearing where the GOP House members are talking over sandbags and have laser sights on the witness while they yell for the Hannity audience that evening?
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 12:24 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 30 July 2019 - 10:15 AM, said:

The answer appears to be "no". The media immediately goes on a hunt of "why did he do it?"

The powers that be are relieved to be told it's a lone crazy person or a wild eyed terrorist. We can't predict one and the other means we have to keep Muslims out of the country. Problem solved!

The nutters say "more guns!" to protect ourselves.

Everyone misses the fundamental point. The killer killed because he wanted to kill. That's the only "why" we need to understand. But if we understand that, then someone might suggest removing the tool used to kill and we can't have that.

The powers that be are relieved that the masses accept that the lone crazy person or the wild eyed terrorist[1] are looked at as one of the big problems in their lives rather than the top x% taking all the country's loot for themselves and leaving scraps for everyone else.

I also don't think that's the only "why" we need to understand. I'm fully supportive of the idea that people being manipulated by fear (through the mass media) coupled with the ever growing realization that our slice of the pie is shrinking more and more has at least some effect on people like that. The fact that they eventually reach a point where they do something insane like this doesn't dismiss that there are "why"s behind the action.

(Not to dismiss the lax environment we find ourselves in with regard to guns; you all know I'm supportive of gun ownership rights within a reasoned and reasonable framework.)

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 01:53 PM

The NRA; so many grifters, so much grift. Here's part of the to and fro between competing scumbags.

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In 2018, accountants for the National Rifle Association began cataloging for its board of directors questionable financial arrangements that had led to millions of dollars in payments to a group of top executives and consultants. The NRA was experiencing cash flow problems, and the accountants were trying to address what they believed to be serious financial mismanagement.

For a year and a half, the NRA has employed an outside counsel, William A. Brewer III, who represents the organization in high-profile legal disputes and is also deeply involved in internal decision-making. The accountants believed the financial dealings they had found could jeopardize the organization’s nonprofit standing with regulators. Yet, according to a former senior official in the NRA’s treasurer’s office, Brewer tried to thwart their efforts to draw attention to the problematic payments.

The former senior employee, Emily Cummins, who worked for 12 years in the NRA’s treasurer’s office, quietly resigned in November as the group’s internal strife escalated. Cummins, in a written statement that began circulating this month among NRA leaders, including at least one board member, alleges that Brewer obstructed the work of NRA accountants and vastly exacerbated the organization’s financial woes as he charged it hefty legal fees. Cummins confirmed that she had produced the statement, which was obtained by ProPublica, but declined to provide any additional comments. Brewer’s firm said its work was justified and of the highest quality.

The statement lays out a list of allegations regarding Brewer’s legal work and his treatment of NRA staff as questions surfaced about his law firm’s billings, which totaled $24 million over a 13-month period. In the first quarter of 2019, Brewer’s firm charged over $97,000 per day, according to internal NRA documents posted anonymously online.

Cummins accuses Brewer of trying to intimidate, deceive and silence NRA staff who were processing his bills while some accountants were growing increasingly troubled by the organization’s mismanagement, exorbitant spending and questionable deals involving conflicts of interest. Former Brewer colleagues as well as written correspondence obtained by ProPublica broadly supported her claims.

Cummins wrote in her statement that Brewer “intimidated NRA staff and threatened our professional livelihoods.” She alleged that he used pressure tactics with staffers “to keep them acquiescent,” compiling what she called “burn books” filled with personal information that he could use against individuals.

“I witnessed what appeared to be unrealistic and duplicative billing from Bill Brewer,” Cummins wrote. “I witnessed that Bill Brewer himself created a 2018 cash flow crunch by interfering with accounts payable to prioritize paying himself immediately versus other NRA vendors that had been providing goods or services for months without payment, also jeopardizing the NRA’s biweekly staff payroll.”

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Posted 02 August 2019 - 09:29 AM

The NRA continues to hemorrhage people. Wayne LaPierre and his merry band of grifters continue to maintain their total control of this particular right-wing fever swamp.

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Three dissident board members of the National Rifle Association resigned on Thursday, saying that their confidence in the group’s leadership is “shattered.”

In a letter to NRA president Carolyn Meadows and secretary John Frazier, the three resigning members accused the nonprofit’s leadership of acting “counter to its mission, governing principles, policies, or the law.”

“Over the past several months, there have been numerous, highly-publicized allegations of impropriety leveled against the Association and certain members of its executive leadership team,” the resignation letter reads. “In exercising our oversight responsibilities as Board Members, we have sought information and requested certain actions be taken with respect to these allegations, only to be rebuffed at every turn.”

The letter goes on to say that after attempting to investigate allegations of wrongdoing, the resigning members were “stonewalled, accused of disloyalty, stripped of committee assignments and denied effective counsel necessary to properly discharge our responsibilities as Board members.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 06:27 PM

Well, that did not take long, Walmart in El Paso. Yet another white male filled with rage and the means to kill. Still not enough people massacred, it will take more. No outrage is enough, we are a nation that kills. End of frigging story.
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Posted 03 August 2019 - 08:47 PM

This is staggering.

Mass shootings, 2019:

US: 249
Mexico: 3
Canada: 1
Brazil: 1
Netherlands: 1
Germany: 0
Italy: 0
UK: 0
Australia: 0
Spain: 0
Saudi Arabia: 0
France: 0

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 08:57 PM

Scalia owns this. He is extolled as a brilliant legal mind and criticized as a partisan. He is both of those things. He is also a narcissistic creature like Trump and, ultimately, a jerk; a really dangerous jerk.

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 09:33 PM

Fortunately, he's not still alive, unlike Trump.
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Posted 03 August 2019 - 11:34 PM

View PostArt_Vandelay, on 03 August 2019 - 08:47 PM, said:

This is staggering.

Mass shootings, 2019:

US: 249
Mexico: 3
Canada: 1
Brazil: 1
Netherlands: 1
Germany: 0
Italy: 0
UK: 0
Australia: 0
Spain: 0
Saudi Arabia: 0
France: 0

Left out New Zealand--51 But who's counting?

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Posted 04 August 2019 - 08:05 AM

*Click*

The counter ratchets up one more, this time in Dayton, OH.

https://www.foxnews....gunfire-reports

This one carries a personal sting, as the store I worked for in a former life was in that very district, at most a block down Fifth St., at a time when the idea of that district as an entertainment hub was just getting off the ground.
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