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Posted 03 April 2019 - 12:55 PM

Oregon's opt out rules are ridiculously lax and, of course, endangering other people's children.

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As measles outbreaks continue in the Northwest and across the nation, newly revealed health records from Oregon suggest it’s surprisingly easy to opt out of required vaccinations in that state—as in several others.

In Oregon—which has the highest kindergarten vaccine exemption rate in the U.S.—about 95 percent of parents whose kids skip one or more vaccines use a print-your-own certificate to do so.

That’s according to data from the Oregon Health Authority, which shows that of more than 31,500 non-medical vaccine exemptions submitted last year, nearly 30,000 were documented by parents who watched an online education video and then printed out a do-it-yourself form.

Fewer than 2,000 chose the second option: to talk to a health care provider and obtain a signature.

The state, where 7.5 percent of kindergartners were exempt from one or more vaccines in the 2017-18 school year, has had an education requirement for non-medical exemptions in place since 2013.

But Oregon state Rep. Mitch Greenlick, a Democrat who has proposed a bill to eliminate non-medical vaccine exemptions, criticized the module.

“It’s obviously letting too many people off the hook,” he said.

It’s clear why parents are overwhelmingly choosing the online option, said Dr. Saad Omer, a vaccine and infectious-disease expert at Emory University in Atlanta: convenience.

Convenience? So it may not even be completely drive by anti-vax / anti-science idiots but people who are just too lazy or busy to care for their own children? WTF?
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 01:19 PM

View PostLFC, on 03 April 2019 - 12:55 PM, said:

Oregon's opt out rules are ridiculously lax and, of course, endangering other people's children.



Convenience? So it may not even be completely drive by anti-vax / anti-science idiots but people who are just too lazy or busy to care for their own children? WTF?

The memories of epidemics are faint if they exist at all in the minds of these folks. It's time for pictures of iron lungs and stories of death from diphtheria and deafness from measles. Scare them.

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 02:40 PM

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The memories of epidemics are faint if they exist at all in the minds of these folks. It's time for pictures of iron lungs and stories of death from diphtheria and deafness from measles. Scare them.

Go full blown anti-cigarette style ads on their asses.
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Posted 03 April 2019 - 06:56 PM

View PostLFC, on 03 April 2019 - 12:55 PM, said:

Convenience? So it may not even be completely drive by anti-vax / anti-science idiots but people who are just too lazy or busy to care for their own children? WTF?

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Posted 04 April 2019 - 01:35 PM

View PostLFC, on 02 April 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

A group that has been monitoring anti-vaxxer propaganda on social media and has found that its influence is starting to slip. Also Russian trolls were partly responsible for repushing anti-vax memes because of course they were.

Is it merely coincidence that the timeline images mimic single-cell-organisms duplicating and taking over a rival mass of SCOs?
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Posted 08 April 2019 - 01:43 PM

Is there any way we can vaccinate our country from these loathsome creatures?

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Some members of the anti-vaccine movement have recently been wearing a yellow Star of David as a method of protesting against vaccine requirements in the United States. And the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) is speaking out against this practice, declaring in an official statement that it “trivializes the experiences of the survivors and victims of the Holocaust.”

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 12:15 PM

Maryland sees its first case of measles from the current epidemic.

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Maryland health officials said Friday that the state has confirmed a case of measles, a highly contagious viral infection that has been spreading in several other states in numbers not seen in decades.

This is the first official case reported this year by the Maryland Department of Health, though there have been 387 cases confirmed in 15 other states through the end of March, according to U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That’s the second-highest number of cases reported nationwide since 2000.


NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio declared a state of emergency.

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New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio issued a public health emergency on Tuesday in response to a measles outbreak in parts of Williamsburg, Brooklyn. De Blasio is requiring unvaccinated people living in the largely Orthodox Jewish area to get vaccinated or face a fine of up to $1,000. Nearly 300 people, most of them children, in the neighborhood have so far been infected with the sometimes fatal disease, compared to only two reported cases in 2017. On Monday, New York City health officials announced a crackdown on yeshivas that are letting unvaccinated students attend school in the midst of the major measles crisis.


NYC is threatening to shut down any yeshiva that allows unvaccinated children to attend.

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New York City health officials announced a new crackdown Monday on yeshivas in a Brooklyn neighborhood that are letting unvaccinated students attend school in the midst of a major measles crisis.

The Health Department had already ordered Jewish academies in certain zip codes to send home children who are not fully immunized, but some of the schools flouted the rules.

Now, the agency has extended the ban to all yeshivas in the Williamsburg neighborhood, warning that those who don’t could be “subject to fines or possible school closure.”

Since the city outbreak began in October, 285 people—most of them children—have contracted the highly contagious but preventable virus. Forty of the cases were from a single yeshiva that did not comply with city orders, say officials.

Twenty-one patients had to be hospitalized—contradicting the anti-vaxxer argument that measles is not a serious disease.

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 01:59 PM

Measles, the anti-vaxxer gift that can keep on giving. Maybe I'm just forgetful but I don't remember hearing about this. There's no cure.

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Definition
Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) is a progressive neurological disorder of children and young adults that affects the central nervous system (CNS). It is a slow, but persistent, viral infection caused by defective measles virus. SSPE has been reported from all parts of the world, but it is considered a rare disease in developed countries, with fewer than 10 cases per year reported in the United States. The incidence of SSPE declined by at least 90 percent in countries that have practiced widespread immunization with measles vaccine. The incidence of SSPE is still high in developing countries such as India and Eastern Europe. There is a higher incidence among males than females (male/female: 3/1). Most youngsters with SSPE have a history of measles infection at an early age, usually younger than 2 years, followed by a latent period of 6 to 8 years before neurological symptoms be...

Prognosis
Most individuals with SSPE will die within 1 to 3 years of diagnosis. In a small percentage of people, the disease will progress rapidly, leading to death over a short course within three months of diagnosis. Another small group will have a chronic, slowly progressive form, some with relapses and remissions. A very small number (approximately 5 percent) may experience spontaneous long term improvement and regain lost function. Prevention, in the form of measles vaccination, is the only real "cure" for SSPE.

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 11:03 AM

Considering it’s described as “rare” in the developed world, I don’t think it’s forgetfulness. I vaguely remember hearing about the potential sequelae from measles infection, including SSPE, way back when as a grad student. Again, back before the Age of Anti-Vaxxism, it was described as “very rare,” IIRC.
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Posted 12 April 2019 - 01:19 PM

View PostBact PhD, on 12 April 2019 - 11:03 AM, said:

Considering it’s described as “rare” in the developed world, I don’t think it’s forgetfulness. I vaguely remember hearing about the potential sequelae from measles infection, including SSPE, way back when as a grad student. Again, back before the Age of Anti-Vaxxism, it was described as “very rare,” IIRC.

Very rare compared to what? Not the number of cases of autism caused by vaccines! :D
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Posted 12 April 2019 - 01:37 PM

View PostLFC, on 03 April 2019 - 12:55 PM, said:

Convenience? So it may not even be completely drive by anti-vax / anti-science idiots but people who are just too lazy or busy to care for their own children? WTF?

In places where it took an actual doctor's visit (even if only to quacks like Bob Sears) the rates of claimed exemptions nose-dived.
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Posted 12 April 2019 - 02:51 PM

View PostLFC, on 12 April 2019 - 01:19 PM, said:



Very rare compared to what? Not the number of cases of autism caused by vaccines! :D
I see what you did there. :D
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Posted 14 April 2019 - 08:11 PM

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Posted 14 April 2019 - 10:36 PM

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 09:39 AM

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 01:18 PM

The U.S. has had 555 confirmed cases of the measles as of April 11. This looks like it's going to be a record year since the disease was declared to be defeated back in 2000. I guess those who made that call underestimated the stupidity of the American people. The previous post-2000 high number was 667 in 2014.

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By the numbers: CDC spokesperson Jason McDonald tells Axios: "It appears the outbreak is accelerating. 61 of the 90 cases reported this week had rash onset in April."
  • This week, CDC reports 555 confirmed cases of measles in 20 states so far in 2019. The previous week showed 465 cases in 19 states.
  • This is the second-greatest number of cases reported in the U.S. since measles was considered eliminated in 2000, and it's only mid-April.


If you want to follow along the CDC releases updates every Monday.

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 03:07 PM

View Postpnwguy, on 15 April 2019 - 09:39 AM, said:

“Ignorance is Strength”

They just need to believe in the Party. Freedom is slavery.

Thomas Jefferson said:

The tax which will be paid for the purpose of education is not more than the thousandth part of what will be paid to kings, priests, and nobles who will rise up among us if we leave the people in ignorance.

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Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

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The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
1995


“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

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On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe


“The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.”

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 07:42 PM

Now they don't want to vaccinate their pets.

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Medynski is one of a growing number of anti-vaxxers whose beliefs are influencing their pets. The debunked claim that the MMR vaccine causes autism in children is influencing pet owners, too—even though autism spectrum disorder doesn’t occur in dogs and cats.

“In my lectures around the country and outside of the country, we’re getting a lot of feedback from practitioners that their clients are challenging the need to do vaccination,” Richard Ford, an emeritus professor of medicine at North Carolina State University’s College of Veterinary Medicine and co-author of the American Animal Hospital Association Canine Vaccination Guidelines and Vaccination Guidelines for the American Association of Feline Practitioners, told The Daily Beast.

Ford said pushback is gaining momentum.

One of the biggest indicators of this trend is the number of clients who request an antibody titer—a blood test that measures the concentration of antibodies in the blood—for their dog or cat to help determine if they are protected from a specific disease. Ford said he has surveyed over 3,000 veterinarians and asked, “What is the number one reason that you would do a titer instead of giving the vaccine?”

“Interestingly, 98% say the owner requested it,” he said, noting that the market is growing for the test. “It’s actually driven by the client, not the veterinary professional. It’s because of clients concerned about over-vaccination.”

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 03:37 AM

This political tendency, or mass hysteria if you will, could really, literally, wipe the United States of America[1] off the face of the earth. It won't be measles that does it; it'll be something more in the pestilence line. Any suggestions for a candidate lurgi? Step forward, @Bact PhD: your shout!

[1] And then the rest of us. The Atlantic in many respects is not very wide.
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Posted 19 April 2019 - 08:46 AM

View PostRich T Bikkies, on 19 April 2019 - 03:37 AM, said:

Any suggestions for a candidate lurgi? Step forward, @Bact PhD: your shout!

Flu. We already know what it's capable of in a less networked world.
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