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Posted 21 March 2021 - 10:22 AM

 baw1064, on 20 March 2021 - 05:54 PM, said:

A new article in the NYT (may be paywalled, but I was able to read it on MSN). Basically, police in city after city, through a combination of ineptitude, poor training, poor direction, and tactics which caused escalation, proved the BLM protestors' point.

Wow, that is some serious fail. (BTW I was able to read it Firefox using a private window.)
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Posted 30 March 2021 - 01:10 PM

FFS they can't even be held accountable when they injure and maim one of their own. Of course the victim was black.

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A federal jury in St. Louis returned a mixed verdict Monday in the case of three police officers accused of beating a fellow officer working undercover.

Luther Hall, who was identified in a civil suit he filed, went undercover in 2017 during a protest concerning another police shooting of a Black man. Hall, himself, is Black. His lawsuit states all the officers involved in the assault are White.

It was during the protests that officers allegedly assaulted Hall. His civil suit said the assault caused herniated discs, a rotator cuff tear, a concussion, a bruised tailbone, as well as "contusions, abrasions and other injuries."

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Posted 02 April 2021 - 03:20 PM

Derek Chauvin's blatant murder of George Floyd appears to be a bridge too far for other officers.

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Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin did not follow police policy when he held his knee on George Floyd’s neck for over nine minutes during a May arrest, his former peers have testified in his murder trial.

Over the last two days, two current and former Minneapolis police officials have slammed Chauvin’s decision to use a restraint position that they said was not only against police training and wrong—but “totally unnecessary” after Floyd had stopped resisting.

Lt. Richard Zimmerman, the longest-serving officer in the Minneapolis Police Department, testified on Friday that officers have never been trained to kneel on a person’s neck while they are handcuffed.

“If you knee on a person’s neck, that can kill them,” Zimmerman told jurors in Hennepin County court. “That person is yours. His safety is your responsibility. His safety is your responsibility.”

Chauvin, 45, is on trial for second and third-degree murder as well as second-degree manslaughter after holding his knee on Floyd’s neck during an arrest over a counterfeit bill. Three other officers—Thao, Thomas K. Lane, and J. Alexander Kueng—have pleaded not guilty to aiding and abetting second-degree murder while committing a felony, as well as aiding and abetting second-degree manslaughter with culpable negligence.

Chauvin’s defense lawyer, Eric Nelson, has argued that Floyd’s death was the result of health issues and drugs—and that his client was simply doing what “he was trained to do throughout his 19-year career.”

But Chavuin’s former peers who were involved in the aftermath of Floyd’s arrest disagreed with that assessment, stating that they would never use the kind of force used on May 25—and captured in a video that was shared around the world.

“Totally unnecessary. First of all, pulling him down to the ground face down and putting your knee on a neck for that amount of time is just uncalled for,” Zimmerman said when asked about the videos of the incident. “I saw no reason why the officers felt they were in danger. And that’s what they would have to feel to be able to use that kind of force”

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Posted 02 April 2021 - 04:54 PM

View PostLFC, on 02 April 2021 - 03:20 PM, said:

Derek Chauvin's blatant murder of George Floyd appears to be a bridge too far for other officers.

Well apparently not all. Philly PD. I'm so proud. Those with more political savvy and, who knows, maybe even a shred of decency are backing away.

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An organization for retired Philadelphia police officers is apologizing after it sent a fundraising email that blamed George Floyd for his own death while defending former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin.

The Philadelphia Inquirer reports that the Protect Our Police PAC this week blamed a third-party marketing firm for sending out a "tactless" fundraising email on its behalf that falsely claimed "George Floyd tested positive for COVID-19 and was high on a lethal dose of fentanyl when he died."

The email also claimed that Chauvin, who infamously knelt on Floyd's neck for nine minutes as he was dying, was being "trial for a murder he did not commit."

Protect Our Police President Nick Gerace denounced the email and said that Chauvin was not the kind of officer his organization was looking to protect.

"Chauvin's actions were examples of bad policing and poor training that directly caused George Floyd's death, in my opinion," he said. "The kind of messaging and innuendo included in that single email is not in line with our mission and I vehemently denounce it."

Carlos Vega, a former veteran homicide prosecutor who is challenging progressive Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner in an upcoming Democratic primary, distanced himself from the Protect Our Police PAC and said he would not longer seek their endorsement.

"The views expressed in this email run counter to my beliefs and my record," Vega said. "George Floyd was murdered. And we need to hold bad cops accountable, not make excuses for their behavior."

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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