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Posted 10 December 2020 - 09:30 AM

Minneapolis is now cutting the police budget. It's still a fight to get meaningful reform, though.

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Minneapolis City Council has voted unanimously to move nearly $8 million from next year’s police budget to other services. The council tried and failed to dismantle the police department in the wake of George Floyd’s death in May, which sparked protests throughout the world. But early Thursday, they agreed to take millions from the police department and put it toward other strategies aimed at tackling an unprecedented wave of violence in the city. The council initially planned to slash the city’s police force by more than 100 officers—down to 750—but that proposal was abandoned after Mayor Jacob Frey threatened to veto the entire budget. Frey welcomed the revised wording of the proposals, saying there are now “reasons to be optimistic about the future in Minneapolis.”

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Posted 14 December 2020 - 11:38 AM

Police behaving badly in Albania can be arrested and charges with a homicide in excess of necessary self defense. This arose in the context of a coronavirus curfew and a man who didn't stop running when told to stop by police. There have been daily protests since it happened...rock throwing included.

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Posted 14 December 2020 - 12:02 PM

Albania? Pffftt!

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Posted 28 December 2020 - 03:37 PM

A solution model other cities are considering. Eugene is about 100 miles from here.

My daughter is at U of O, but taking classes from home (Portland) with Covid. But I've spent plenty of time there in prior years.
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Posted 30 December 2020 - 12:13 PM

Another black man is murdered in the blink of an eye by a police officer.

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The Columbus cop who answered a non-emergency call that ended in the death of an unarmed Black man on Dec. 22 has shared her own version of events, directly contracting the officer who fired the fatal shots.

Officer Adam Coy was fired on Monday after killing Andre Hill while responding to a 1:37 a.m. call from a neighbor who said that a man was sitting in an SUV in a garage for an extended period.

Coy only turned his body-worn camera on after the shooting but a “look-back feature” captured the preceding 60 seconds without audio.

An internal affairs report released on Tuesday offers details about what Coy’s colleague, Officer Amy Detwiler, saw that morning.

Detwiler arrived on the scene shortly after Coy and saw Hill walking from the SUV into a garage of a home. (Hill was an “expected guest” at the home, Mayor Andrew Ginther later said.)

Detwiler said Hill wasn’t trying to get into the home but she was concerned and felt like he might need “assistance” to get inside. However, Coy ordered Hill to exit the garage.

Hill complied and, without saying anything, started walking out of the garage with his cellphone in one hand and his other hand in his pocket.

At that moment, Coy yelled, “There’s a gun in his other hand, there’s a gun in his other hand!’” and started shooting, according to Detwiler.

But Detwiler told investigators she didn’t see a gun and “did not observe any threats” from Hill as he walked out of the garage. No gun was found at the scene.

After the shooting, neither officer came to Hill’s aid for several minutes, according to an investigation by the police department, and the two cops handcuffed Hill as he lay on the ground dying.

In a report written on Dec. 26, Columbus Police Chief Thomas Quinlan said he felt something was off when he arrived on the scene, observed the officers and then watched the body-cam footage—although he didn’t elaborate on his observations.


The murderer had 180 complaints lodged against him during his career including 16 even the city couldn't dismiss as unfounded. Why is this guy even on the force? Because police are protected, even if they're shitty cops who are abusive and dangerous to the people who they are sworn to serve.

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Quinlan also said he had serious concerns about Coy’s actions on the force since at least 2008. The Daily Beast has found at least 180 complaints against Coy during his nearly 20 years as a police officer.

Columbus Public Safety Director Ned Pettus Jr. fired Coy on Monday. “The actions of Adam Coy do not live up to the oath of a Columbus Police officer, or the standards we, and the community, demand of our officers,” he said in a statement. “The shooting of Andre Hill is a tragedy for all who loved him in addition to the community and our Division of Police.” Coy is still facing a criminal investigation.

Hill was killed just weeks after a sheriff’s deputy shot and killed another Black man in Columbus, Casey Goodson. Goodson was walking into his grandmother’s home holding Subway sandwiches at the time, his family has said.

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Posted 31 December 2020 - 10:10 AM

In terms of "what to do about it" this never came to mind.

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Posted 19 January 2021 - 02:25 PM

Read this and compare it to what happened to Philando Castile who actually WAS carrying his firearm in a legal manner. And they claim they don't understand what is meant by "white privilege." Here it is in all it's black and white glory.

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If you find it hard to believe that not too long after a violent attempted coup at the U.S. Capitol, someone would innocently stroll towards an inauguration checkpoint with unlicensed guns, ammunition, and unauthorized credentials then you’re not alone.

But that’s the defense being given by Wesley Allen Beeler, a 31-year-old man from Front Royal, Virginia who was apprehended by police in Washington D.C. on Friday with all that paraphernalia.

According to the Washington Post, which obtained court documents regarding the incident, Capitol police arrested Beeler while he was trying to enter an inauguration security point with a pistol while driving a truck that contained over 500 rounds of unregistered ammunition and an unregistered Glock—all with no license to carry. Authorities say he also was in possession of unauthorized, “non-government issued” credentials which he presented to enter the secure inauguration area.

The ammunition in Beeler’s truck included hollow-point bullets, and the truck itself was festooned with bumper stickers that read “Assault Life” and “If they come for your guns give ’em your bullets first.”

But according to Beeler, all of those disturbing details amount to a simple misunderstanding.

And it may have actually been a mistake on his part but this...

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While I’m not saying that Beeler’s story is untrue, or that he should have gotten harsher treatment, it will never not boggle my mind the degree of understanding that some Americans can get from law enforcement and the justice system compared to Black people and our children. Even after a deadly terrorist insurrection, someone was able to roll up to the U.S. Capitol with guns and a load ammunition, no license to carry, and walk away freely without even having to post bail. Must be nice to be a country boy.

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Posted 19 January 2021 - 05:05 PM

 LFC, on 19 January 2021 - 02:25 PM, said:

Read this and compare it to what happened to Philando Castile who actually WAS carrying his firearm in a legal manner. And they claim they don't understand what is meant by "white privilege." Here it is in all it's black and white glory.

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Posted 16 February 2021 - 04:48 PM

F***ing police in Maricopa County, AZ lied in order to press more serious charges against peaceful BLM protesters. With this many involved it sure appears like a conspiracy and it should be prosecuted as such.

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Police and prosecutors in Arizona were caught by a local news station using "outright lies" to prosecute a group of Black Lives Matter protesters as a criminal street gang.

Local news station ABC 15 this month dropped an extensive investigative report that showed law enforcement officials in Maricopa County, Arizona falsely charged a small group of 17 BLM protesters for being a criminal street gang by peddling "gross exaggerations, dubious claims, and outright lies" to a grand jury.

In a demonstration that took place last October, a small group of BLM protesters marched in downtown Phoenix, where they were followed closely by multiple police officers.

During their march, the demonstrators tipped over some traffic cones and temporary street signs as a way to impede the officers who were following them. One demonstrator also dropped a toy smoke maker often used in gender reveal parties as a way to keep the police away.

The group eventually came to a stop and raised the umbrellas they were carrying, forming a dome that was apparently created in anticipation of being tear gassed by police. It was at this point that the officers moved in and arrested them.

Police and prosecutors would then tell grand jurors that the protesters should be considered members of an organized street gang because they were all wearing black, they were all carrying umbrellas, and they were all chanting "All Cops Are Bastards," which prosecutors said was their official gang "slogan."

Law enforcement officials labeled them the "ACAB Gang" and testified that they were just as, if not more dangerous, than the Hells Angels, the Bloods, and the Crips.

In the wake of ABC 15's reporting, Maricopa County Attorney's Office has announced that it has dropped the street gang charge against the protesters and has admitted that prosecutors did not follow proper procedures when securing charges.

Additionally, nine members of the Phoenix Police Department have been reassigned over their roles in charging the protesters for being a street gang.

Reassigned? They need to have their asses reassigned to jail.
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Posted 16 February 2021 - 05:08 PM

View PostLFC, on 16 February 2021 - 04:48 PM, said:

F***ing police in Maricopa County, AZ lied in order to press more serious charges against peaceful BLM protesters. With this many involved it sure appears like a conspiracy and it should be prosecuted as such.

Sheriff Arpiao would be so proud.

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Posted 16 February 2021 - 05:24 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 16 February 2021 - 05:08 PM, said:

Sheriff Arpiao would be so proud.

Hell has a special place for that sadistic waste of human skin.
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Posted 17 February 2021 - 11:50 AM

Los Angeles just "defunded" their in-school police program quite a bit. I guess having officers trained to be warriors and encouraged to be bullies didn't mix well with caring for children. Who woulda' thought?

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California’s biggest public-school system is slashing its police officer numbers by a third—and the officers who are left have been banned from using pepper-spray on students. According to The New York Times, trustees of the Los Angeles Unified School District have approved a plan to remove 133 positions from the district’s 400-member police force. Around $25 million of police funds will be diverted to support programs for students from minority communities, and school police officers will no longer be allowed to carry pepper-spray. The decision followed a yearlong campaign by student activists and community members who said the school police force has targeted Black and Latino kids. A coalition of student activist and advocacy groups said in a statement: “This victory is a crucial step towards mitigating the years of disinvestment and ending the criminalization and over-policing of Black students and students of color in LAUSD.”

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Posted 17 February 2021 - 11:54 AM

A Republican prosecutor in rural Washington ran as a reformer. The Republican fascist police-state machine drove him out. Read all of it and it becomes quite clear that racism, of course, played a big part as well.

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When Arian Noma ran for prosecutor in a rural Washington county in 2018, he was a newcomer who vowed to stop the over-prosecution of crimes and seek bail only when necessary. Standing inside the wood-paneled Okanogan Grange, Noma gripped a microphone and told the crowd, “If you want to make change, I’m your candidate. If you want things to remain the same, I think you know who to vote for.”

“As we continue to make regulations and over-regulate our citizens nationwide, over-criminalize everything … before you know it, we all have badges of conviction,” Noma said. “And if you don’t have a family member or you yourself or a friend that’s been through the system … you have no idea how difficult it is to function and reintegrate into society.”

The 44-year-old Republican wanted to create a reentry support group for people released from incarceration and had other grand ideas, too, which he said would ultimately save taxpayers money. “My office will not only work with law enforcement regarding cases, we will offer trainings, discussions, and other opportunities to cooperate to solve cases together,” Noma, a former prosecutor in Maryland, told the Okanogan Valley Gazette-Tribune before winning nearly 60 percent of the vote in Okanogan County. “Rapport and comradery are essential to forging relationships.”

But halfway through his four-year term, Noma resigned. In a letter to voters, he cited a “woefully deficient” budget and case backlog as reasons for his departure. One of his deputies was forced to handle more than 200 criminal cases at a time, while another was grappling with 140 cases. Noma described his predicament as fighting “tanks and guns with bows and rocks.”

The final straw, Noma continued, was a series of “racially motivated attacks.”

Speaking publicly for the first time since his resignation, Noma—whose ancestry includes Black, Native American and Filipino heritage—told The Daily Beast that he believes the online harassment campaign had help from law enforcement and county colleagues, including people within his own office.

He says the online smear campaign—which included anonymous critics snapping photos of his vehicle and asking for “information,” sharing internal county emails with complaints about him, and the sale of anti-Noma merchandise—ramped up after he supported Black Lives Matter protesters last summer. And after he wrote to Okanogan County Sheriff Tony Hawley regarding a mob of armed civilians who flooded the city of Omak to confront “antifa” during summer protests. Noma said armed groups should be prohibited from future demonstrations because they could be in violation of state law.

Noma said he and his supporters suspect, but cannot prove, a coterie of county employees organized an anonymous Facebook page against him. They point to leaks of official correspondence and the wording of certain posts as proof.

“How much of it is racism and the good old boys system that was there?” Noma said. “I don’t think they’re inseparable. I’m still trying to digest how much of it was because I’m an outsider and how much of it was my race but I think both of them played a role.”

“It was a concerted effort by employees, non-employees and other departments, and the 9,400 residents who voted for me have no idea what’s going on,” he added. “And I didn’t either. I’m too new to this. I’m not a politician. I’m not going into politics again.”

The harassment campaign “started the moment I took office but it started to gain steam by attacking me on the Second Amendment,” Noma said. “I hate how they say you’re picking sides. There’s no side to human life. My side is human life, I don’t want to see anybody get shot. I don’t want to see anybody get hurt, Black or white. “

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Posted 17 February 2021 - 01:48 PM

 LFC, on 17 February 2021 - 11:50 AM, said:

Los Angeles just "defunded" their in-school police program quite a bit. I guess having officers trained to be warriors and encouraged to be bullies didn't mix well with caring for children. Who woulda' thought?
If those kids were anything like the thugs that "attend" schools in Philly, they deserve all the pepper spray they got. Dems have a huge problem dealing with their assholes. Witness all the gun violence and looting here in Philly. While they may be a small proportion of the urban population, they shit the bed for everyone. Responsibility matters.
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Posted 22 February 2021 - 04:24 PM

This is the Arizona justice system rather than police but it seems that the state is generally a shit-show when it comes to both.

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A failure to update critical prison management software has kept hundreds of incarcerated people in Arizona behind bars longer than they should be, according to a whistleblower report.

Employees for the Arizona Department of Corrections have known about the bug since 2019, Phoenix-based NPR affiliate KJZZ reported. The flaw follows a change to state law that the software simply cannot handle and has not been updated to deal with.

Arizona has one of the highest imprisonment rates in the country, with drug possession convictions being one of the highest drivers behind the numbers. An amendment (PDF) to Arizona state law in June 2019 created a mechanism through which inmates convicted of certain nonviolent drug offenses can earn credits toward early release. Eligible inmates who complete a program such as a GED equivalent or substance abuse treatment while imprisoned can earn three days' credit for every seven days served and shorten the length of time they spend behind bars to 70 percent of their assigned sentence.

The Arizona Department of Corrections' own FAQ (PDF) about the program specifies that neither inmates nor their families should contact anyone to request an eligibility review. "This is done automatically based on system programming, which generates a list for Time Comp," the document reads. "The reviews are being completed based on the projected earliest release dates." According to the whistleblowers, however, that system cannot identify eligible participants and still does not make those calculations.

"We knew from day one this wasn’t going to work," a source in the Department of Corrections told KJZZ. "When they approved that bill, we looked at it and said 'Oh, shit.'"

The whistleblowers say they began making "repeated internal warnings" to the department's IT officials in 2019. KJZZ obtained a copy of an October 2020 bug report detailing how the software, called ACIS, fails to keep up with the law.

"Currently, this calculation is not in ACIS at all," the report reads. "ACIS can calculate 1 earned credit for every 6 days served, but this is a new calculation."

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 02:46 PM

This is why it's so hard to make things better. Police don't WANT it to get better. This is from Wray's Senate testimony today.

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Wray just noted the FBI’s “use of force” database project, which seeks to collect data from local police departments in order to have accurate national data on police use of force, including lethal force, and the circumstances of each incident.

He sort of circled around a glaring fact in the FBI database: Police department participation is abysmal. It’s so low, in fact, that the FBI hasn’t actually released most of the data it’s collected. Instead, the bureau has just released the numbers about participation itself: Which departments are participating in which states?

“But we are doing a lot to encourage them to submit their data,” Wray said of police forces. “And my pitch to them has been, ‘We’re going to be talking about these issues no matter what, and we should all want the conversations to be based on the actual facts and the actual data as opposed to what some random person thinks the facts or data are.'”

Well, according to public data, that pitch isn’t working. The FBI needs to do more if they want better data. Perhaps Wray has seen an update since the FBI’s last press release about this, but as the FBI said last summer, “the agencies submitting 2019 data represented 41% of all federal, state, local, and tribal sworn officers.” If that number were to drop lower than 40%, the bureau won’t release any data at all.

In order to release more data, the bureau needs 60% or 80% participation.

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Posted 02 March 2021 - 03:07 PM

View PostLFC, on 02 March 2021 - 02:46 PM, said:

This is why it's so hard to make things better. Police don't WANT it to get better. This is from Wray's Senate testimony today.

Same thing with police forces settling out claims against their officers and demanding confidentiality clauses in the settlement agreements. The general public has little knowledge of how much money is spent on abuse cases or internal sexual harassment claims. If you're in the club of blue you get protected.





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