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Posted 05 February 2020 - 02:50 PM

View PostJackD, on 05 February 2020 - 02:31 PM, said:

Usually the cops, not the prosecutor, can be sued or prosecuted for such acts.

Lately, not even. "Qualified immunity" seems to be pretty absolute in practice.
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Posted 05 February 2020 - 03:32 PM

Qualified immunity isn't stopping prosecutions in Chicago. They don't always succeed but they do happen and they sometimes do succeed. Also that's a federal doctrine applied under the Civil Rights Act. Ordinary criminal law violations (such as assault, homicide, wrongful charging, and the like) are prosecuted under state law.

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Posted 07 February 2020 - 06:03 PM

A conservative South Carolina prosecutor tweeted her real feeling anonymously for years. It illustrates how f***ed up our justice system can get. BTW she's a graduate of Liberty Law School.

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Brown had been tweeting anonymously as @TheLillyLawyer for several years. Unfortunately for her, she continued doing so after she passed the South Carolina bar exam and became a prosecutor in late 2017. When she had something to say about anyone at work—including magistrates, crime survivors, witnesses, cops and defense lawyers—she made sure to tweet it for the world to see.
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No one really noticed until she said in late January, “It bothers me so much that the defense bar is given every deference in the world, but an officer’s case will be dismissed if he or she is five minutes late to court. Unreal.”

In 2020, especially on Twitter, you mess with defense attorneys at your own risk. Someone saw Brown’s tweet, then told a friend who told a friend. A defense attorney who did not want to be named contacted Filter, explaining how he figured out her identity. It turns out that some local lawyers found out about Brown’s account and spread the word that it was her, after seeing she was going lawyer-viral.

In no time, dozens of defense attorneys and criminal justice reform allies were taking her to task for saying something that the vast majority of lawyers know to be false.

But the rest of her tweet history, which I copied, provides a unique snapshot into the attitudes of a rank-and-file member of a conservative prosecutor’s office: It is worse and more paradoxical than you might imagine.

For example, Brown, a white woman, frequently used Black people’s reactions as GIFs to describe her emotions about various things, like how little she thinks of the public defenders she works with. For example, a GIF of a Black person looking extremely skeptical was her reaction to a defendant telling a judge he will “get a public defender.” She also used African-American Vernacular English when recounting conversations with defendants, witnesses and victims. At one point, the Liberty Law School grad mocked a defendant for living with his romantic partner while not being married.

Apparently, Brown also went to work drunk on occasion. One tweet on August 14, 2018 read, “I woke up still drunk. Today should be fun.” Ironically, she named drunk driving cases as her favorite part of the docket.

Additionally, she publicly called the veracity of her cases into question. She wrote on April 9, 2018, “Literally all of my witnesses are perjuring themselves.” If a prosecutor believes a witness for the state has lied on the stand, not correcting that on the record is a violation of the South Carolina ethics code for practicing law.

Assistant Solicitor Brown even mocked victims. On June 2, 2019, she recounted how she yelled “I CANNOT GIVE A SUBPOENA TO ‘CORNBREAD,” at a victim, when they offered a witness’s nickname instead of a legal name. In December 2018, she had said, “Sometimes my victims don’t answer my initial calls because it’s a number they don’t recognize. Unless my victim is a low key drug dealer. Then they always answer.” (She added a laughing emoji.)


There's plenty more about this vile "Christian" alumni of Liberty University.
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Posted 11 February 2020 - 10:49 AM

The NYC Police Sergeant's Union is rising up against Bill de Blasio. Rampant corruption, racial profiling, violence, and cover-ups have been coming to light more and more. Instead of agreeing to any level of accountability they're going to full on attack mode. This is the problem with the corrupt police culture we have in too many places. Protecting their own no matter what comes 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. Trying to clean up the bad apples? "YOU HATE US!"

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A union representing thousands of active and retired New York City police sergeants said Sunday that it was “declaring war” on the city’s mayor Bill de Blasio.

The shocking statement came in a tweet from the NYPD Sergeants Benevolent Association, after a gunman allegedly shot and wounded two police officers over two days in New York — and despite de Blasio’s sharp denunciation of the attacks.

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Mayor DeBlasio, the members of the NYPD are declaring war on you! We do not respect you, DO NOT visit us in hospitals. You sold the NYPD to the vile creatures, the 1% who hate cops but vote for you. NYPD cops have been assassinated because of you. This isn’t over, Game on!

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This was a premeditated assassination attempt against New York’s Finest. It was also an attack on ALL New Yorkers and everything we believe in. This MUST be a city where everyone can live in peace and respect. This individual attempted to destroy that. We will not let him win.

De Blasio spokesperson Freddi Goldstein told TPM, referring to the tweet: “[SBA President] Ed Mullins’ comments are absolutely reprehensible. He clearly has forgotten his oath to protect and serve. While he threatens violence, the mayor remains focused on the safety of our officers and communities.”

The tweet is part of a larger effort from police unions to tie de Blasio’s lefty politics to explicitly anti-cop protest movements.

“We talk about the protesters that are yelling ‘We want dead cops!’” New York City Police Benevolent Association President Pat Lynch said Sunday. “Those words meant something and people listen and they try to kill cops.”

“But who’s leading them? Some of the elected officials that stand here today nodding their heads when we speak are the ones that’s leading those crowds, leading those demonstrators, putting the words in those protesters’ mouths!” he said. “Well, now it’s real.”

The tension between de Blasio and the police unions goes back years to his time as a social justice-minded city councilman and public advocate. Police anger spiked after Officer Daniel Pantaleo, on July 17, 2014, put Eric Garner in a fatal chokehold. Garner’s death rocked the city, not least when De Blasio invited Rev. Al Sharpton to speak at a meeting at City Hall, where the civil rights leader called for consequences for the police officers involved as then-Police Commissioner Bill Bratton stared on two seats away.

Months later, when two police officers were killed in an ambush shooting, NYPD officers publicly turned their backs to de Blasio as he arrived at the hospital, and again a few days later when the mayor spoke at one of the officers’ funerals. The SBA said at the time that the slain officers’ blood was on the mayor’s hands.

Since then, the police union campaign against New York’s mayor has linked with the national movement to quell criticism of police — articulated in public displays like the #BlueLivesMatter hashtag and President Donald Trump’s 2017 suggestion to New York police officers to “take the hand away” from arrestees’ heads as they enter police cars while handcuffed. “Please don’t be too nice,” Trump told the officers seated behind him during a speech in Brentwood, New York.

On Sunday, Trump commented on the recent attacks against police officers in New York, tweeting that “because of weak leadership at Governor & Mayor,” New York’s police were “under assault.”

“Send in the Feds,” the SBA tweeted in response.

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 12:48 PM

More on the admissibility of junk science in courts.

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The scientific evidence used to sway the opinions of jury members and judges in US courtrooms may not be all that reliable, according to the findings of a new study in the journal Psychological Science in the Public Interest.

Analysis found that some 60 percent of all psychological assessments that are admitted as evidence appear to be based on junk science, although only about 5 percent of these dodgy testimonies are ever challenged by lawyers.

The study authors began by pooling data from 22 separate surveys of forensic mental health practitioners, who were found to use a total of 364 different psychological assessment tools when acting as experts in legal cases. These tools serve a variety of purposes, such as determining a defendant’s competence to stand trial or indicating whether or not a parent is deserving of child custody.


Interesting view on how case law compounds the problem.

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In their write-up, the study authors explain that lawyers can’t be blamed for letting so much junk science enter their testimonies, since they are not trained psychologists and are therefore unable to identify the weakness of an assessment tool unless they happen to be alerted to it by an expert.

Furthermore, since precedent holds so much sway in legal proceedings, and so many of these questionable tools have been seen as admissible for so long, there is now a precedent for allowing bad science to stand as evidence in US courtrooms.

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Posted 06 May 2020 - 01:03 PM

NYPD is on the job of enforcing social distancing in a violent manner in areas that are "coincidentally" inhabited mostly by people of color.

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The New York Police Department is facing criticism over its social-distancing enforcement after bystanders captured video showing aggressive or violent arrests in at least three separate incidents over the weekend.

On Sunday night, three cops were recorded handcuffing a young man against a Brooklyn sidewalk while residents watched from on a stoop. One officer struck the man’s head while the other cops pressed the suspect to the ground. “Back up!” the officer, wielding an expandable baton, yelled to a witness.

“That’s not necessary. He’s not a threat to you,” another onlooker says in the footage, which was circulated by Congressman Hakeem Jeffries on Tuesday, as well as a host of community activists. (While Jeffries suggested the video was taken Monday night, an NYPD spokeswoman told The Daily Beast the incident occurred Sunday.)

“Police officers aggressively ‘enforcing’ social distancing in our community,” Jeffries fumed in a Twitter post. “This occurred in East New York last evening. Why are sunbathers who violate social distancing guidelines treated one way and young men in certain communities another?” Jeffries seemed to be referencing photos taken this weekend at city parks, including Brooklyn’s Domino Park, which was packed with mostly white sunbathers. Some of those park-goers didn’t wear masks or appear to be social distancing yet presumably were not subjected to violent arrests.


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Still, multiple videos posted on social media recently show police forcefully breaking up crowds in neighborhoods that have larger populations of people of color. Footage from some of those arrests were recorded in places like Brower Park in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, and outside the Melrose Houses in the Bronx.

On Tuesday, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and Police Commissioner Dermot Shea fielded questions about NYPD’s enforcement of quarantine measures and about the arrest, which occurred in the 75th Precinct.

“I think every one of these cases has to be seen individually,” de Blasio said in a video briefing. “I would caution against anyone trying to look at different videos or different situations and see them all the same. They’re not all the same.”


Hey, Bill. Let your old pal LFC explain the issue to you since you don't seem to be getting it. Your PD has a long and violent history of racist enforcement. At this point they have thrown away any reasonable expectation of anybody giving them the benefit of the doubt. When you talked about wanting to clean up the corruption and they came out against you in force, screeching that you hated them. Sorry but at this point a default position of suspicion is warranted.
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Posted 27 May 2020 - 10:11 AM

Another scary black man put down like a dangerous animal, this time in Minneapolis. Although the officers involved were quickly fired (FINALLY!) a very angry protest ensued. I can hardly wait for their union to jump out and screech at the Mayor for being anti-police the same way they did in NYC. They're already saying we need to await the outcome of an investigation despite there being a video of the one officer kneeling on the neck of the handcuffed and prone man for 7 f***ing minutes as he gasps and chokes out that he can't breath. This was murder, pure and simple.

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To the general public, the video of a white police officer pressing his knee into the neck of a black man prone on the street, crying out for help until he finally stopped moving, was horrifying.

Four officers were fired a day after George Floyd’s death, a stunning and swift move by the Minneapolis chief with the mayor’s full backing. But despite their dismissal, whether the incident will be considered criminal, or even excessive force, is a more complicated question that will likely take months to investigate.

The officers were dismissed soon after a bystander’s video taken outside a south Minneapolis grocery store Monday night showed an officer kneeling on the handcuffed man’s neck, even after he pleaded that he could not breathe and stopped moving. Floyd’s death prompted protests Tuesday, with thousands taking to the streets at the intersection where he died.

Many protesters marched more than 2 miles (3.2 kilometers) to the police precinct station in that part of the city, with some damaging the building’s windows and squad cars and spraying graffiti. Police in riot gear eventually confronted them with tear gas and projectiles, with tense skirmishes stretching late into the evening.

Bridgett Floyd told NBC’s “Today” show in an interview Wednesday morning that the officers involved in her brother’s death should be charged with murder because “that’s exactly what they did.” She said she hadn’t watched the bystander’s video, but told ABC’s “Good Morning America” that “I don’t understand how someone could possibly let an individual go out like that.”

Mayor Jacob Frey announced the firings on Twitter, saying: “This is the right call.”

The FBI and state law enforcement were investigating Floyd’s death, which immediately drew comparisons to the case of Eric Garner, an unarmed black man who died in 2014 in New York after he was placed in a chokehold by police and pleaded for his life, saying he could not breathe.

But in the Garner case, local prosecutors, the NYPD’s internal affairs unit, and the Justice Department all finished investigations into the case before the officer was ultimately fired. Garner’s family and activists spent years begging for the officer to be removed.

The officers in the Minneapolis incident haven’t even been publicly identified, though one defense attorney has confirmed he is representing Derek Chauvin, the officer seen with his knee on Floyd’s neck. The attorney, Tom Kelly, declined to comment further.

The police union asked the public to wait for the investigation to take its course and not to “rush to judgment and immediately condemn our officers.” Messages left with the union after the firings were not returned.

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 02:51 PM

One of the officers in Minneapolis who stood around watching a suspect get murdered has a history.

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One of the Minneapolis police officers who stood by and watched as George Floyd died was involved in a violent incident six years earlier in which he brutally beat up an unarmed, handcuffed man during an arrest before escorting him to jail in only his underwear and t-shirt, according to court records.

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Thao has had a spotty career with law enforcement since he started with the Minneapolis Police Department as a community service officer. After going through the police academy in 2009, he was laid off a year later. In 2012, he returned to the department.

According to Minneapolis’ Communities United Against Police Brutality, six complaints have been filed against the now-former police officer—but no disciplinary action was ever taken. The details of the six complaints were not immediately clear.

In 2017, Thao and another officer were sued by Lamar Ferguson, 26, after Ferguson alleged the two officers used excessive force during an Oct. 7, 2014 arrest. According to the lawsuit obtained by The Daily Beast, Ferguson said the officers “punch[ed], kick[ed], and kn[eed]” him “to the face and body” while he was handcuffed. The incident was so violent he suffered “broken teeth as well as other bruising and trauma.”

“What happened back in 2017 was a pretty serious incident in my mind but it made no headlines—at all—and was not nearly as serious as what happened to George Floyd,” Seth Levanthal, one of Ferguson’s attorneys, told The Daily Beast on Wednesday. “But seeing that horrific video begs the question ‘What did the police do internally in response to the 2017 incident?’”

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 04:30 PM

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 07:29 AM

View PostLFC, on 27 May 2020 - 04:30 PM, said:

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Jealousy. He has got a whopper hasn't he? His bob of hair of course.
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Posted 29 May 2020 - 11:01 AM

The pressure has once again built to the point where it easily explodes. Protests are cropping up in multiple places but Minneapolis is taking the brunt of it as expected. This was a direct assault on police. It's what happens when you've abused your authority to the point where it is no longer trusted, recognized, or accepted. The ball in now in the city's court to run a clean police force. It's unreasonable to ask other's to give any more than they already have.

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Cheering protesters torched a Minneapolis police station that the department abandoned as three days of violent protests spread to nearby St. Paul and angry demonstrations flared across the U.S over the death of George Floyd, a handcuffed black man who pleaded for air as a white police officer kneeled on his neck.

A police spokesman confirmed late Thursday that staff had evacuated the 3rd Precinct station, the focus of many of the protests, “in the interest of the safety of our personnel” shortly after 10 p.m. Livestream video showed the protesters entering the building, where fire alarms blared and sprinklers ran as blazes were set.

Protesters could be seen setting fire to a Minneapolis Police Department jacket.


Trump, being Trump, just had to throw gas on the literal fire. Bold mine.

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Late Thursday, President Donald Trump blasted the “total lack of leadership” in Minneapolis. “Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts,” he said on Twitter. Trump, who called protesters in Minneapolis “thugs,” drew another warning from Twitter for his rhetoric, saying it violated the platform’s rules about “glorifying violence.”


He is, as usual, channeling his racist base. Here's a bit of history on his quotation of "when the looting starts, the shooting starts". Once again Trump proves he's a racist and unfit for office.

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The phrase itself comes from a December 1967 press conference held by then-Miami police chief Walter Headley, in which he declared a “get tough” policy — a “war” on crime in black neighborhoods in Miami. Or as Headley was quoted in news reports at the time, “young hoodlums, from 15 to 21, who have taken advantage of the civil rights campaign.”

“We don’t mind being accused of police brutality,” Headley said. “They haven’t seen anything yet. Community relations and all that sort of thing have failed. We have done everything we could, sending speakers out and meeting with Negro leaders. But it has amounted to nothing.”

The chief added that Miami hadn’t had a “serious problem with civil uprising and looting because I’ve let the word filter down that when the looting starts, the shooting starts.”

Headley said at the press conference that patrols in black neighborhoods would be armed with shotguns and police dogs.

The police chief was known for his aggressive “stop and frisk” policy, which often escalated police encounters. In February 1968, for example, police suspected a teenager had carried a concealed knife into a pool hall. In 2018, The Washington Post detailed what happened next: Police officers dangled the teen by his feet over a bridge 100 feet above the Miami River.

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 11:05 AM

The Minneapolis Police Dept. just had to go and prove the protestors right by trying to shut down news coverage of the event. For no discernible reason they arrested Omar Jiminez, a CNN reporter, and his 3-person camera crew. Imagine the right-wingnut reaction if they did that to a Faux News crew covering the Bundy Ranch (not the Bundy NWR) stand-off.

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Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) apologized to CNN president Jeff Zucker on Friday morning after police officers arrested CNN reporter Omar Jimenez and his camera crew of three as they were covering the protests in Minneapolis earlier that morning.

CNN reported that Walz had told Zucker he “deeply apologizes” for the arrests, which the governor denounced as “unacceptable.”

Jimenez, who is black and Latino, and his crew were covering the protests that had been provoked by the death of George Floyd, a black man who died after a white police officer kneeled on his neck for several minutes while several other officers stood by.

Footage of the arrest, which was broadcasted in real time, shows police officers asking Jimenez and the crew to move as they explained they were members of the media. The reporter calmly agrees to go and said “Just put us back where you want us. We’re getting out of your way.”

The officers then arrest Jimenez without explanation even as he asks “Why am I under arrest, sir?”

Then rest of the crew are arrested a few minutes afterward.

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 11:12 AM

Austin Statesman sports columnist shows up in the opinion page? Very odd, but then- sports are…?

I drop it here, because it speaks to the very issue at hand- Minneapolis.

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It’s sad the same people we trust to protect us and our families have become the people we fear. My white friends see those red and blue lights in their rear view and immediately think about money they may have to spend on a speeding ticket. When I see those same lights, I think, “Man, I don’t want to die today.”

My goodness. He's so right. Have I ever had a fear of getting killed by driving while white? Nope. I can empathize/sympathize. But there is no way I can identify.

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Racists have become more brazen and history seems to be repeating itself. We have to learn from the mistakes of the past and accept that we can’t change it, but we also must avoid drowning in a sea of mistrust and hatred. For those who think that ignoring the problem will make it go away, it’s time to wake up and accept that this isn’t a black problem but an America problem. That’s all of us.

He's a member of the "free" press. Can't wait to hear what he has to say about the CNN reporter/crew arrests.
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Posted 29 May 2020 - 12:11 PM

View PostLFC, on 29 May 2020 - 11:05 AM, said:

The Minneapolis Police Dept. just had to go and prove the protestors right by trying to shut down news coverage of the event. For no discernible reason they arrested Omar Jiminez, a CNN reporter, and his 3-person camera crew. Imagine the right-wingnut reaction if they did that to a Faux News crew covering the Bundy Ranch (not the Bundy NWR) stand-off.

Why anybody can put on masks and claim to be a reporter. Just like anybody can reproduce vote by mail ballots down at Kinkos/FedEx.

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 02:42 PM

There's a good piece over at TAC called Maybe We Should Stop Giving the Minneapolis Police Military Equipment. There's a bonus quote (my bold) from a piece in the Washington Post.

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The death of George Floyd in Minneapolis on Monday demonstrates how easy it is to end a life. Floyd wasn’t shot with a firearm, as was Philando Castile during a traffic stop four years ago. He wasn’t even tossed in the back of a police van, as was Freddie Gray before that. The weapon was a simple knee to the neck. The video of his arrest is chilling precisely because it’s casual, quotidian almost, just another day on the job for his badge-bearing assailants, a stark contrast to the victim gasping on the ground.

Floyd’s killing has touched off yet another of that most depressing of sequences: a video emerges showing a black man being brutalized by police; his community protests peacefully; those demonstrations are hijacked by rioters and professional anarchists; Molotov cocktails fly; flames erupt. An act of harm by the authorities is followed by a city-wide act of self-harm.

Afterwards the question is always: now what do we do? And certainly there are plenty of good policy reforms that can help restore trust between law enforcement and local communities. Donald Trump in 2018 signed into law the First Step Act, which ordered changes to the prison and sentencing systems. In the meantime, though, how about we start with some low-hanging fruit? How about we stop arming police departments with military-grade equipment?

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Such protests have become common in a country where more than 1,000 people annually are killed by police, with black people three times as likely as whites to be the victims. Also common is what happened soon after demonstrators gathered to protest Floyd’s death: Police in riot gear shot tear gas canisters into the crowds and fired stun grenades and “nonlethal projectiles” at demonstrators, injuring many. It was stunningly easy to point to the same department’s gentle treatment weeks ago against white anti-lockdown protesters while those protesting against police violence were met with militarized violence.

But this too should not surprise us. Police departments have come to resemble military units, contributing to deadly violence disproportionately against black Americans. While many policies related to policing and mass incarceration happen at the local level, the militarization of police has been promulgated by federal policies.

At issue is the Pentagon’s so-called 1033 program, which allows police to obtain military surplus equipment from the Defense Department. Among the gear that’s been transferred over the years are grenade launchers, armored troop carriers, M16 rifles, and helicopters. And while it’s difficult to find data on the Minneapolis PD specifically, the Star Tribune reported six years ago that police in Minnesota had received about $25 million in defense hardware. (It’s worth pointing out that not all of the military-grade equipment used by law enforcement comes from the Pentagon—some of it is privately purchased by the departments themselves.)

The result has been the creeping militarization of our police. This trend made national headlines in 2014 after cops in Ferguson, Missouri, used armored vehicles to suppress riots sparked by the death of Michael Brown. That next year, President Obama signed an executive order that stopped the Pentagon from transferring some hardware to police departments. This forced Ferguson to send back, among other things, two Humvee armored trucks.

Later the piece notes that Obama started getting ahold of the problem. In 2017 Trump rolled that progress back. What a shock.
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Posted 29 May 2020 - 02:48 PM

The Minneapolis officer involved has been charged.

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The Minneapolis police officer who was seen on video kneeling on the neck of George Floyd, a handcuffed black man who died in custody after pleading that he could not breathe, was arrested Friday and charged with murder.

Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman said Derek Chauvin was charged with third-degree murder and manslaughter, after the office gathered enough evidence to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt.

Freeman did not have immediate details, but said a criminal complaint would be made available later. The charges come after three days of protests, which had been escalating in violence.

News of the arrest came moments after Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz acknowledged the “abject failure” of the response to this week’s protests and called for swift justice for officers involved. Walz said the state would take over the response to the protests and that it’s time to show respect and dignity to those who are suffering.

“Minneapolis and St. Paul are on fire. The fire is still smoldering in our streets. The ashes are symbolic of decades and generations of pain, of anguish unheard,” Walz said, adding. “Now generations of pain is manifesting itself in front of the world — and the world is watching.”

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 02:53 PM

Biden says we have an open wound in America.

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oe Biden said Friday that the “open wound” of systemic racism was behind the police killing of a handcuffed black man in Minnesota. Biden also accused President Donald Trump, without mentioning him by name, of inciting violence with a tweet that warned that protesters could be shot.

“We are a country with an open wound. None of us can turn away,” Biden said in a brief address.

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"The original sin of this country still stains our nation today … We're a country with an open wound. None of us any longer can hear the words ‘I can’t breathe’ and do nothing,“ Joe Biden says in statement in which he says he’s spoken with George Floyd’s family. pic.twitter.com/G6LNs0VNyI

— MSNBC (@MSNBC) May 29, 2020

The presumptive Democratic presidential nominee has built his campaign around a promise to heal “the soul of the nation” and is suddenly getting his chance to try in real time.

Biden said he spoke to the family of George Floyd, a handcuffed black man who was killed in Minneapolis this week after a white police officer knelt on his neck. Floyd’s death touched off violent protests there and elsewhere.

The former vice president said now was “no time for incendiary tweets. No time to incite violence.”

“This is time for real leadership,” he said.


Obama said this should not be normal.

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In sharp contrast with comments made earlier by President Trump, former President Barack Obama on Friday said the killing of George Floyd at the hands of a white police officer in Minneapolis “shouldn’t be normal in 2020 America.”

“For millions of Americans, being treated differently on account of race is tragically, painfully, maddeningly ‘normal,'” the President wrote in a statement that he shared on Twitter. “Whether it’s while dealing with the health care system, or interacting with the criminal justice system, or jogging down the street, or just watching birds in a park.”


MN Gov. Tim Walz has to tell Trump to STFU.

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Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) on Friday afternoon decried President Donald Trump’s bellicose tweets about the ongoing protests in Minneapolis, in which Trump threatened “when the looting starts, the shooting starts.”

During a press briefing in St. Paul, Walz confirmed that he had spoken to Trump on Thursday night to discuss the protests, as the President mentioned in one of his tweets.

“I didn’t know he was going to tweet,” the governor told reporters. “It’s just not helpful. It’s not helpful.”

Walz said that Trump’s tweets threatening to sic the military on the protesters and invoking violent rhetoric only serve to further exacerbate the situation, which was brought about by the death of George Floyd, a black man who was killed by law enforcement.

“In the moment where we’re at, in a moment that is so volatile, anything we do to add fuel to that fire is really, really challenging,” Walz said, adding that “there’s a way to do this without inflaming.”

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He is, as usual, channeling his racist base. Here's a bit of history on his quotation of "when the looting starts, the shooting starts". Once again Trump proves he's a racist and unfit for office.

He is attempting to use this as a distraction from his sliding COVID numbers. He was starting to lose older voters. But what better way to change the subject and bring them back in the fold with the dog whistles of law and order and controlling all those lawless THUGS. If Florida is close, what better way to calm older voters fears than quoting a FL (Miami) officer from 'the good old days' when 'those people' knew their place. Who do you fear the most, he indirectly asks, some unseen virus, or a bunch of $%%^^s looting stores and burning down a police station?
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Posted 29 May 2020 - 03:12 PM

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Walz said that Trump’s tweets threatening to sic the military on the protesters and invoking violent rhetoric only serve to further exacerbate the situation, which was brought about by the death of George Floyd, a black man who was killed by law enforcement.

Of course -- that's the whole point.
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Posted 29 May 2020 - 03:31 PM

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Of course -- that's the whole point.
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