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#181 golden_valley

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Posted 05 January 2018 - 04:05 PM

View PostAnBr, on 04 January 2018 - 08:27 PM, said:

You forgot that people from states that allow open carry should be allowed to carry them into any other state unchallenged.

Oh well that's a proper use of the 2nd Amendment at the federal level...can't let those parochial states infringe ya'know! Except for the ones who allow carry, they're not the infringers.

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Posted 05 January 2018 - 07:11 PM

Of course, the "throwing down the gauntlet" response would just be to repeal the state law with no restrictions whatsoever, and dare the Feds to try to arrest millions of people for possession (which is about as practical as rounding up 10 million people to deport).
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Posted 05 January 2018 - 10:05 PM

View Postbaw1064, on 05 January 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

Of course, the "throwing down the gauntlet" response would just be to repeal the state law with no restrictions whatsoever, and dare the Feds to try to arrest millions of people for possession (which is about as practical as rounding up 10 million people to deport).

“They” know who they want to arrest for possession, and who to ignore. Hint: not many .01% will be riding in back of the cop car, even if they are open about what they are doing.

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Posted 05 January 2018 - 11:39 PM

View PostProgressive whisperer, on 05 January 2018 - 10:05 PM, said:

“They” know who they want to arrest for possession, and who to ignore. Hint: not many .01% will be riding in back of the cop car, even if they are open about what they are doing.

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Posted 06 January 2018 - 04:12 PM

Let the GOP alienate as many people as possible - especially the younger ones.

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 08:36 AM

View PostRue Bella, on 06 January 2018 - 04:12 PM, said:

Of course they are doing so much damage on so many fronts it will take time to reverse some of it.

And long before we get back to anything like sanity they'll have another turn to smash it all after obstructing nearly every step forward in the meantime.
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Posted 16 January 2018 - 05:07 PM

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A new bipartisan bill will give states more power when it comes to deciding on their own marijuana laws, Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) announced on Monday.

"I'm working with a bipartisan group to try to roll back the changes that the attorney general has made so that the states can make their own determination about their marijuana laws and how they want to enforce them," Warren said at a press conference in Cambridge, Massachusetts, according to the website MassLive.com.

Warren was speaking during a Martin Luther King Jr. Day celebration and did not reveal details of the legislation, which has not yet been released. More details should emerge in the next few weeks, a spokesperson said.

Warren has, however, voiced her opposition to Attorney General Jeff Sessions’s plans, writing on Facebook and Twitter that marijuana policy should be left up to the states.

"States have the right to enforce their own marijuana policies – and I’m working on legislation to make sure it stays that way," Warren wrote on Facebook. "Massachusetts and other states have already implemented their own commonsense marijuana regulations, and the Justice Department’s reckless actions have only created uncertainty for legitimate businesses."

The legislation will be a direct response to Sessions’s decision to rescind the Cole Memo, an Obama-era policy that protected states’ rights to decide on their own marijuana laws. Sessions announced his decision in the first week of January, right on the heels of California’s historic recreational-use legalization, calling it a return to the “rule of law.” Indeed, marijuana is illegal on the federal level. But so many Americans support it—with some 90 percent in favor of legalizing medical marijuana, and 29 states and the District of Columbia doing so.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 11:52 AM

At least some research shows that General Beauregard Sessions's preferred policy of recriminalization of marijuana is even more ridiculous and harmful than it already seemed.

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Over the decades, there’s been a general trend toward greater social acceptance of marijuana by a more educated society, seeing the harm caused by the prohibition of marijuana. But then, on Jan. 4, Attorney General Jeff Sessions rescinded an Obama-era memorandum suggesting federal agents should let states regulate control of marijuana and focus their efforts on other drugs.

Re-criminalizing marijuana in light of current research findings, including my own research of more than 15 years, makes Sessions’ proposed crackdown on legal marijuana look worse than reefer madness.

Researchers like myself, who regularly talk with people who are actively using hard drugs, know that legal cannabis can actually reduce the harmful effects of other drugs.

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One popular myth, which started in Ansligner’s campaign and continues today, is that marijuana is a gateway to heroin and other opioids. Despite research dispelling this as a causal connection, opponents of marijuana legalization continue to call marijuana a “gateway drug.”

Studies on the brains of long-term marijuana users suggested a link between marijuana use and lower IQ. But later investigation showed that low IQ might actually be caused by smaller orbitofrontal cortices in the brains of children. Children with smaller prefrontal cortices are significantly more likely to start using marijuana early in life than those with larger prefrontal cortices.

One well-designed study that looked at marijuana use and brain development on adolescent twins over 10 years found no measurable link between marijuana use and lower IQ.

In a review of 60 studies on medical marijuana, over 63 percent found positive effects for debilitating diseases – such as multiple sclerosis, bipolar disorder, Parkinson’s disease and pain – while less than 8 percent found negative health effects.

The most harmful effect of criminalizing marijuana may not be its restriction on medical uses, but its devastating cost to American society, which experienced a 500 percent increase in incarceration due to the war on drugs.

There are many more links and a lot more information in the article. Basically Sessions and other Republicans are full of shit, which should be no surprise since that holds true for nearly every other stance they now take.
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