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#681 LFC

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Posted 05 March 2020 - 12:17 PM

Trump's utterly corrupt DOJ run by Minister of Political Defense William Barr has studiously ignored voting rights issues. Nor did General Beauregard Sessions. Why? The answer is obvious if you know what's going on. Voting right abuse is now standard Republican policy. They aren't even pretending to care about enabling people to vote anymore. It's suppression of the "wrong kind" of voters 24x7 now.

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The apparent refusal of President Trump’s Justice Department to engage in any meaningful, public enforcement of the Voting Rights Act has taken Republicans’ general hostility to the law to a whole new level.

The DOJ has not filed a single new Voting Rights Act case since the Trump administration took over — setting it apart from the last several administrations, Republican and Democratic.

While it did some litigating of cases under other election laws in the first half of the administration, the Justice Department’s Voting Section has not brought any new cases since 2018.

The current dry spell in DOJ voting rights enforcement is unprecedented, according to the DOJ’s own public record and what former voting section officials told TPM.

“It’s not that there is an absence of enforcement opportunities. Private plaintiffs continue to bring cases, some quite vigorously,” said Justin Levitt, an election law professor who served as a deputy assistant attorney general of the Civil Rights Division under President Obama. “The fact the department is currently involved in none of them is disturbing.”


And then there's this from Dispatches from the Land of Alternate Facts.

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Trump DOJ defenders have suggested that the overall downtick in VRA cases is part of a larger trend of states being less inclined to violate it. The Justice Department itself told TPM that enforcement of the VRA was continuing.

“The Civil Rights Division has continued to advance a number of open and active Voting Rights Act investigations around the country,” a DOJ spokesperson said in a statement. “These investigations are at various stages and, in keeping with the Division’s longstanding practice in the voting context, the Division keeps these investigations confidential unless and until a lawsuit is filed.”

While it’s impossible to know whether such investigations are underway, the public record speaks loudly, ex-DOJ officials told TPM.

“They can claim all they want that they have active investigations. If there are no lawsuits being filed, I really doubt that that’s correct,” said Gerry Hebert, a voting rights attorney at Campaign Legal Center who previously worked for decades at the Justice Department.

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Posted 19 March 2020 - 05:03 PM

The voter suppression squad (a.k.a. the Republican Party) is losing it over states trying to figure out ways to allow for more participation without showing up in person. That's no shock. If the states figure out that they can make voting more convenient in general and decide to keep those policies in force then shutting down polling places in the "wrong" areas won't be effective anymore. And what about those highly suspect voting machines? They wouldn't be NEARLY as useful. Plus there would be a HUGE paper trail and "losing" votes would require some serious physical destruction.

To quote Marisa Tomei in My Cousin Vinny, "OH MY GAWD! WHAT A F***IN' NIGHTMARE!"

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As elected officials across the country scramble to figure out how to conduct elections without worsening the coronavirus outbreak, many are emphasizing the importance of absentee voting and even considering expanding mail-in ballot options. Voter fraud alarmist groups are taking note.

The interest by states to push people towards mail-in voting comes as part of the broader COVID-19-prompted effort to cut down on human contact. Under guidance from the Centers for Disease Control, Americans are encouraged to avoid gathering in large groups and to stay six feet away from one another — a nearly impossible feat while waiting in line to vote in, say, a school cafeteria.

Voting fraud alarmist groups claim that an increase in mail-in voting will lead to rampant, election-swinging criminality. While vote-by-mail fraud is more real than virtually nonexistent in-person voting fraud, it is still rare. That has not stopped these groups from grasping at straws to argue that it will create a cataclysmic problem, like they’ve done time and time again.

One group, the Election Integrity Project in California, sent around an email blast urging Los Angeles County residents to “beware the significant risks” to the legitimacy of the election now that Secretary of State Alex Padilla has advised that mail-in ballots be sent to every registered voter in the county for the November 2020 elections.

The group’s leader, Linda Paine, confirmed to TPM that the missive was timed to address any possible shifts to a more mail-based system statewide amid the coronavirus outbreak, though the group has been raising similar issues for years.

California municipalities are looking into how to follow Padilla’s advisory, and a spokesperson for the Los Angeles County Registrar’s office told TPM that, while no decision has been made, the office is “checking the feasibility of producing an additional 2.5 million vote-by-mail ballots.”

The precautions election officials are taking to respond to coronavirus have provided “fertile ground” for voter fraud alarmists to operate, Wendy Weiser, Director of the Democracy Program at the Brennan Center for Justice at the NYU School of Law, told TPM.

She added that individual voter fraud is “extremely rare,” but admitted that fraud is more likely to happen through mail-in ballots than in-person voting, though it’s still not “widespread.”

“There is no basis for a spike in actual concern about voter fraud, assuming states get the resources they need and start planning now to make sure the elections are able to run safely and securely,” she added.

States that already switched to an all vote-by-mail system years ago, like Oregon, have fairly intense security measures in place.

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Posted 19 March 2020 - 05:11 PM

Possible fraud is the excuse for not doing all sorts of things that involve money or voting. CA has this system of barcoding the ballots and checking signatures. Is it perfect? Probably not...people can be duped into signing blank ballot envelopes. As one guy said, It's a stupid way, time intensive way to try to steal an election...one ballot at a time.

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Posted 19 March 2020 - 05:29 PM

Just from local experience, absentee ballots are the primary way to perform voter fraud. They get some old person to sign the ballot and the "worker will take care of it." They usually get caught when they use the same writer and pen for a whole lot of ballots. (Around here its usually the Democrats)
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Posted 19 March 2020 - 08:57 PM

View PostLFC, on 19 March 2020 - 05:03 PM, said:

The voter suppression squad (a.k.a. the Republican Party) is losing it over states trying to figure out ways to allow for more participation without showing up in person. That's no shock. If the states figure out that they can make voting more convenient in general and decide to keep those policies in force then shutting down polling places in the "wrong" areas won't be effective anymore. And what about those highly suspect voting machines? They wouldn't be NEARLY as useful. Plus there would be a HUGE paper trail and "losing" votes would require some serious physical destruction.

To quote Marisa Tomei in My Cousin Vinny, "OH MY GAWD! WHAT A F***IN' NIGHTMARE!"

Don't forget about other tactics such as:
  • Voter intimidation that various Rethug groups do near polling places to scare off the "wrong kind of voters"
  • Misallocating resources like voting machines from Dem areas to Rethug areas to maximize wait times in blue districts and minimize it in red districts.
  • Disseminating false information about times and locations of polling places.

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Posted 20 March 2020 - 08:12 AM

View PostAnBr, on 19 March 2020 - 08:57 PM, said:

Don't forget about other tactics such as:

It's almost too much fraud to keep up with!
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Posted 20 March 2020 - 01:20 PM

View PostLFC, on 20 March 2020 - 08:12 AM, said:

It's almost too much fraud to keep up with!

How convenient.
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Posted 20 March 2020 - 02:06 PM

They still have the option of voter purges.
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Posted 20 March 2020 - 02:22 PM

When districts are gerrymandered and voter turnout is suppressed those few in person or mail frauds can make the difference between winning and losing.

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Posted 27 March 2020 - 12:27 PM

Even in these troubled times Republicans have to make voting harder, never easier.

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Legislation concerning voting procedures for the delayed Ohio presidential primary has passed unanimously in the Republican-controlled state Senate and House and is bound for a signature from Gov. Mike DeWine ®.

However, the voting provisions, part of an omnibus bill dealing with coronavirus passed Wednesday, have incurred disapproval from a bevy of voting rights groups as well as from Secretary of State Frank LaRose, a Republican.

DeWine, who “applauded” the bill’s passage on Twitter, initially worked with LaRose and Lieutenant Governor Jon Husted ® to lay out a plan for the primary, which was pushed back from March 17 to June 2 amid the coronavirus outbreak.

In their original plan, postage-paid absentee ballots would be sent automatically to all registered voters in the state who had not yet voted. Voters would send the applications in and receive a ballot in a prepaid envelope to be postmarked by June 1, at the latest.

The bill passed by the legislature Monday, by comparison, is much more restrictive.

It requires the extra step of LaRose’s office designing and mailing out an informational postcard about how to obtain an absentee ballot, rather than sending out the applications automatically. Voters then must print out the application themselves, or ask their county board to send one, and rustle up postage to send it back. Only then would they receive a ballot and have to get it into the mail — all by April 27.

LaRose estimated that the postcards alone wouldn’t hit most Ohioans’ mailboxes until the second week of April.

Mike Brickner, Ohio director for All Voting is Local, condemned the legislature’s plan.

He predicted that county boards of elections would be flooded with absentee ballot requests, an issue compounded by their operating with a “skeleton staff.” He added that even if LaRose gets the postcards out to voters by the first week of April — a best-case “breakneck speed” scenario — unless the postal service, overwhelmed elections board and voters act quickly and completely accurately, many ballots will likely blow the deadline.

“I think the real question is if this could happen during optimal circumstances,” he said. “And we need to recognize that these are not optimal circumstances.”

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