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Posted 25 November 2019 - 08:44 AM

View PostLFC, on 19 November 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

Dreher melts down over Chick-fil-A's "surrender." My schadenfreude meter is pegged. Bold mine.
Excuse me if I hold my nose and refuse to show respect for immoral attacks on a group of people persecuted by religion for thousands of years.

Of course the usual backlash from the "true Christians" among us:

Chick-fil-A Ends Donations To Anti-LGBTQ Groups, Draws Backlash From Christian Conservatives


Chicken fast-food chain Chick-fil-A said Monday that it has stopped donating to Christian charities with anti-LGBTQ stances. The restaurant chain had previously supported The Salvation Army and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, two faith-based organizations that oppose same-sex marriage


https://www.ibtimes....vatives-2868769

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Posted 05 October 2020 - 11:46 AM

Here we go, folks. The two most activist judges on SCOTUS are practically salivating at getting a chance to overturn marriage equality. Once again the right to marry must be at the whim of somebody else's religion. For these two religion (only the right religion, of course) trumps every other right. Every person's right to a personal theocracy must be protected and everybody else can just park their own rights and suck it up.

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The Supreme Court on Monday rejected an appeal by Kim Davis, the former Kentucky court clerk who was jailed in 2015 after refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. But in a four-page opinion about the case, Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito took the opportunity to make a jaw-dropping rant against the Supreme Court’s landmark Obergefell v. Hodges—the decision legalizing same-sex marriage, which they said threatens religious liberty. “This petition provides a stark reminder of the consequences of Obergefell,” Thomas wrote for the pair, adding that they agreed with the decision not to hear the case because Davis’ appeal didn’t “cleanly present” the key issues. However, “by choosing to privilege a novel constitutional right over the religious liberty interests explicitly protected in the First Amendment, and by doing so undemocratically, the court has created a problem that only it can fix,” the opinion states.

In 2015, Davis said she refused to issue marriage licenses because as a Christian she had a religion objection to same-sex marriage. Her refusal garnered national attention and several lawsuits, ultimately prompting a judge to order Davis to issue licenses—and resulted in five days in jail when she again refused. Davis had argued that the legal doctrine, qualified immunity, protected her from being sued for damages by two gay couples.

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Posted 08 October 2020 - 04:56 PM

Note quite 100% accurate as it was "only" illegal in 16 states but f***ing close enough. BTW they were married in 1971, just 4 years after Loving v Virginia.

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Posted 08 October 2020 - 05:56 PM

View PostLFC, on 08 October 2020 - 04:56 PM, said:

Note quite 100% accurate as it was "only" illegal in 16 states but f***ing close enough. BTW they were married in 1971, just 4 years after Loving v Virginia.


She's wearing a mid 1980's wedding gown and veil. Are you sure they were married in '71? Not that it matters because the hypocrisy is clear to those of us who aren't anti-LGBTQ.

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Posted 08 October 2020 - 06:06 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 08 October 2020 - 05:56 PM, said:

She's wearing a mid 1980's wedding gown and veil. Are you sure they were married in '71? Not that it matters because the hypocrisy is clear to those of us who aren't anti-LGBTQ.

Read it ... and weep.

https://en.wikipedia...s#Personal_life
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Posted 08 October 2020 - 07:46 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 08 October 2020 - 05:56 PM, said:

She's wearing a mid 1980's wedding gown and veil. Are you sure they were married in '71? Not that it matters because the hypocrisy is clear to those of us who aren't anti-LGBTQ.

View PostLFC, on 08 October 2020 - 06:06 PM, said:


GV is observant! My recollection was that Thomas was single in the early '80s, when he and one Anita Hill were colleagues.

From the link, Ginni is Wife #2:

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In 1987, Thomas married Virginia Lamp, a lobbyist and aide to Republican Congressman Dick Armey.[219] In 1997, they took in Thomas's then six-year-old great nephew, Mark Martin Jr.,[220] who had lived with his mother in Savannah public housing.[221]
Thomas's second wife remained active in conservative politics,...

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Posted 08 October 2020 - 09:31 PM

View PostBact PhD, on 08 October 2020 - 07:46 PM, said:

GV is observant! My recollection was that Thomas was single in the early '80s, when he and one Anita Hill were colleagues.

From the link, Ginni is Wife #2:

Ah ha! I got married in the mid '80's and saw lots of friends get married then too. That dress was standard issue. (I avoided it and that nasty veil.)

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Posted 08 October 2020 - 10:09 PM

1971 was in fact the year of his first marriage--but his first wife is African-American, so Loving wouldn't have been relevant.
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Posted 05 February 2021 - 04:04 PM

Biden makes his position known on LGBQT rights in no uncertain terms.

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In his first remarks to State Department staff since his inauguration, President Joe Biden on Thursday announced that he was issuing a presidential memorandum laying out new policies for America’s diplomats to promote and protect the rights of LGBTQ people around the world.

The announcement merges two of Biden’s longtime political passions—foreign policy and the fight for equality for lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgender people—at a moment when the campaign for equality has been jolted back to life, after four years of attacks and the general bigotry of the Trump administration.

Biden, speaking to reporters at the State Department’s headquarters in Foggy Bottom on Thursday afternoon, said that the policies are intended “to further repair our moral leadership.”

“We’ll ensure diplomacy and foreign assistance are working to promote the rights of those individuals,” Biden said, “included by combatting criminalization, and protecting the LGBTQ refugees and asylum seekers.”

A senior administration official told The Daily Beast that the announcement is intended to be both “a powerful symbol” and an explicit instruction to those rebuilding the nation’s foreign policy that expanding LGBTQ rights abroad is the official stance of the United States government.

“There will be no ambiguity,” the official said. “This is not the word of one envoy or cabinet secretary. Biden wants this to be seen as the policy of the United States government. This administration prioritizes LGBTQ rights as human rights.”

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 05:13 PM

I hate Susan Collins. Hate her. Loathe her with the passion of 1,000 burning suns. She is a craven, vile creature. Did I mention I hate her?

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Is U.S. Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) playing politics with vital civil rights legislation?

Just eight months ago Senator Collins was the only Republican Senator to co-sponsor the LGBTQ Equality Act. She was also in a desperate re-election race.

On June 15 she tweeted her strong support for the bill:

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Congress should also pass the Equality Act & amend the Civil Rights Act to expressly prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation & gender identity.
— Sen. Susan Collins (@SenatorCollins) June 15, 2020

The following day she signed onto a letter to then-Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, demanding he "immediately bring the bipartisan Equality Act (H.R. 5) to the Senate floor for a vote and fully enshrine in federal law explicit protections for LGBTQIA+ people against discrimination on the basis of their sexual orientation and gender identity."

The bill never came to the floor, and Collins got re-elected.

On Tuesday The Washington Blade reported Senator Collins was refusing to co-sponsor the Equality Act, a dramatic about face after being such a strong supporter last year.

Why?

“There were certain provisions of the Equality Act which needed revision," Collins told the Blade's Chris Johnson, not specifying what "revisions" were so desperately needed they were resulting in her refusing to sponsor the bill – and putting its passage in jeopardy.

"Throwing some veiled criticism at the Human Rights Campaign," Johnson writes, "which declined to endorse her in 2020 as it had done in previous elections, Collins added, 'Unfortunately the commitments that were made to me were not [given] last year.'"

The Equality Act will receive a vote on the House floor this week, reportedly Thursday or Friday. President Biden has said he wants to sign it into law in his first 100 days (although his staff has since suggested it may take longer.)

Like so many other critical pieces of legislation, the Equality Act will need 60 votes to pass, unless Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) kills the filibuster, something many liberals are demanding he do.

Other GOP Senators are treating it like they used to treat tweets from Donald Trump.

“I don't know what's in it," Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) said.

“I have not read the bill," Sen. Joni Ernst (R-IA) also said.

Will Collins change her mind? Will she co-sponsor the Equality Act? Will she reveal what vital "revisions" she's demanding be made before she does?

Senator Collins' office did not immediately respond to a call from NCRM.

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Posted 25 February 2021 - 01:24 PM

MTG is a hateful, spiteful, sub-human piece of shit.

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Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) installed an anti-transgender sign outside her office on Wednesday after Rep. Marie Newman (D-IL) put a trans pride flag outside her office that sits across from the GOP freshman’s door.

Newman, whose daughter is transgender, installed the multi-colored flag after the GOP lawmaker called an LGBTQ rights bill “an attack on God’s creation.”

Greene had delivered the discriminatory remarks on the House floor earlier this week as she took aim at the Equality Act — a bill that would extend civil rights protections to the LGBTQ community.

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In a video posted to Twitter, Greene, who was stripped of her House committee assignments earlier this month over her endorsement of violent rhetoric and conspiracy theories, can be seen putting up the anti-transgender sign before smiling and dusting off her hands. “There are TWO genders: Male & Female. Trust The Science!” Greene’s sign reads.

HAH! I suspect MTG had to have somebody make that sign since I seriously doubt her understanding of actual science even extends to being able to spell it.
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Posted 25 February 2021 - 01:46 PM

View PostLFC, on 25 February 2021 - 01:24 PM, said:

HAH! I suspect MTG had to have somebody make that sign since I seriously doubt her understanding of actual science even extends to being able to spell it.
Leaving aside the entire trans-gender aspects, even genetic and biological sex distinctions aren't binary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
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Posted 25 February 2021 - 02:31 PM

View Postpnwguy, on 25 February 2021 - 01:46 PM, said:

Leaving aside the entire trans-gender aspects, even genetic and biological sex distinctions aren't binary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

Their heads would explode if they knew that many species of fish change sex. They'd have an entire list entitled "Fish That Are An Affront to God: Do Not Eat" which they'd keep close any time they went to a restaurant. Maybe somebody should point out that their favorite dinner haunt is clearly a den of sin. After all its name IS "Long John" Silver's.
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Posted 25 February 2021 - 03:12 PM

View PostLFC, on 25 February 2021 - 02:31 PM, said:

Their heads would explode if they knew that many species of fish change sex. They'd have an entire list entitled "Fish That Are An Affront to God: Do Not Eat" which they'd keep close any time they went to a restaurant. Maybe somebody should point out that their favorite dinner haunt is clearly a den of sin. After all its name IS "Long John" Silver's.

The genders in C. elegans (a widely-studied model organism in biology) are males and hermaphrodites. The hermaphrodites can self-fertilize is there isn't a suitable male around. Just saying.
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Posted 25 February 2021 - 03:32 PM

View Postbaw1064, on 25 February 2021 - 03:12 PM, said:

The genders in C. elegans (a widely-studied model organism in biology) are males and hermaphrodites. The hermaphrodites can self-fertilize is there isn't a suitable male around. Just saying.

I think they might be able to deal with that because they don't have eyes. Once they have a "face" their creeped out factor jumps way up.
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