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Posted 23 February 2019 - 11:54 AM

God, FB is a monster, pure and simple. Glad I never even considered it. The more I hear about it, the more disgusted I get. teh google is bad enough. All that info that google collects is out there somewhere anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter much that FB sells it. I still like to think google is not "evil". FB definitely is.
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Posted 23 February 2019 - 02:47 PM

You've got to be kidding me- "The Google"that watches you, all over your very wired-in house/office, or just a bit of computers? LOL- They are here. And they still sell the same crap that FB does, only a bit less invasive. But C'mon- you must know that both have been watching you, overtly or covertly, for a very long time...

You are simply wrong with your "evil". Pick one, kiddo, and then watch the next grab you. Your international focus only hurts you.
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Posted 23 February 2019 - 03:33 PM

One of the things I like about posting on an American blog as a Brit is that I get called things like Dude and Kiddo (although, admittedly, usually because I've said something stupid). My favourite American who calls people Kiddo is Bernie Ohls in the Raymond Chandler novels, when Marlowe has got his goat.
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Posted 23 February 2019 - 04:23 PM

View PostRich T Bikkies, on 23 February 2019 - 03:33 PM, said:

One of the things I like about posting on an American blog as a Brit is that I get called things like Dude and Kiddo (although, admittedly, usually because I've said something stupid). My favourite American who calls people Kiddo is Bernie Ohls in the Raymond Chandler novels, when Marlowe has got his goat.
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Posted 24 February 2019 - 03:52 AM

View PostBeelzebuddy, on 23 February 2019 - 04:23 PM, said:

Dude!

I love it when you talk dirty to me!
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Posted 24 February 2019 - 10:39 AM

View PostRich T Bikkies, on 24 February 2019 - 03:52 AM, said:

I love it when you talk dirty to me!
At least it is in writing. The first six weeks I worked with Americans (some from Baton Rouge) I needed a translator from English to English. It was not one way either. After six weeks it clicked for everybody.
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Posted 24 February 2019 - 03:04 PM

View PostGeorge Rowell, on 24 February 2019 - 10:39 AM, said:

At least it is in writing. The first six weeks I worked with Americans (some from Baton Rouge) I needed a translator from English to English. It was not one way either. After six weeks it clicked for everybody.

Even to other Southerners the Louisianna accent can be tough to decipher, particularly in and around New Orleans. Forty years ago when I moved from my bland Midwestern area to Tennessee I learned there were differences in accents even with 40 miles of where I lived and certainly differences among the various states. The differences between regional accents is fading over time. Television and movies have a lot to do with that I suspect.

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 05:05 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 24 February 2019 - 03:04 PM, said:

The differences between regional accents is fading over time. Television and movies have a lot to do with that I suspect.
Happening in Italy also.
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Posted 25 February 2019 - 11:47 AM

View PostPractical Girl, on 23 February 2019 - 02:47 PM, said:

You've got to be kidding me- "The Google"that watches you, all over your very wired-in house/office, or just a bit of computers? LOL- They are here. And they still sell the same crap that FB does, only a bit less invasive. But C'mon- you must know that both have been watching you, overtly or covertly, for a very long time...

You are simply wrong with your "evil". Pick one, kiddo, and then watch the next grab you. Your international focus only hurts you.
I think there is merit to the idea that Google isn't in the same privacy violating league as Facebook. TheFaceBook was literally founded on the illegal harvest of data from Zuckerberg's university to build a base of data for launch and they've been guilty again and again of enormous violations, handing much of their database over to third parties, (third parties!!) through APIs and have shown no remorse through it all.

Not related to privacy but they have been facilitating a genocide in Myanmar and their response has been to do a bad job of slowly hiring local contractors in response, it is immoral.

It is understandable, Facebook is just a small company struggling with low margins, barely eeking out a living, I can see why they can't afford their users privacy or their users' nations stability and human rights records seriously.
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Posted 25 February 2019 - 12:36 PM

View PostJ-CA, on 25 February 2019 - 11:47 AM, said:

I think there is merit to the idea that Google isn't in the same privacy violating league as Google.

I understood what you were trying to say, but...
Well, fuck.

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 06:04 PM

The Dems are pushing to bring back net neutrality as law.

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Democrats in the U.S. Congress plan to unveil legislation on Wednesday to reinstate “net neutrality” rules that were repealed by the Trump administration in December 2017, House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi said.

Pelosi told lawmakers in a letter that House Democrats, who won control of the chamber in the November 2018 elections, would work with their colleagues in the U.S. Senate to pass the “Save The Internet Act.”

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Posted 04 March 2019 - 11:11 PM

View PostLFC, on 04 March 2019 - 06:04 PM, said:


Fits nicely into a plan of pushing for very popular legislation ahead of the 2020 election. "This is what you'll get if you hand power back to the Dems."
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 11:48 AM

Facebook is now under criminal investigation.

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Facebook is under criminal investigation for its deals selling user data to other companies, The New York Times reported.

A grand jury in New York recently subpoenaed two companies that make smartphones and other gadgets, people familiar with the requests told the Times. Both of the companies were given access to the personal data of hundreds of millions of Facebook users.

“We are cooperating with investigators and take those probes seriously,” a Facebook spokesman told the Times in a statement. “We’ve provided public testimony, answered questions and pledged that we will continue to do so.”

The two companies that were subpoenaed are among more than 150 other tech giants — like Apple, Amazon and Microsoft — that went into business with Facebook to gain access to it’s user base’s friends, contact data and other information without the user’s knowledge.

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 02:16 PM

Facebook yet again. This company is clearly both corrupt and incompetent.

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For years, Facebook has stored hundreds of millions of user passwords in plain text on internal company servers that were accessible to more than 20,000 employees, according to a blockbuster Thursday report from security reporter Brian Krebs. In some cases, the passwords have been available since 2012, according to the report. A senior Facebook employee told Krebs that between 200 and 600 million passwords were stored without encryption, and that the company is working to determine exactly how many passwords were stored in that fashion. The source added that about 2,000 of the 20,000 employees with access to the server made approximately 9 million queries that included the unencrypted password data.

The company acknowledged in a Thursday statement that “some user passwords were being stored in a readable format within our internal data storage systems,” and said that it expected to notify hundreds of millions of Facebook and Facebook Lite (a low connectivity option) users. The company emphasized that “these passwords were never visible to anyone outside of Facebook and we have found no evidence to date that anyone internally abused or improperly accessed them.”

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 09:56 AM

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2,000 of the 20,000 employees with access to the server made approximately 9 million queries that included the unencrypted password data
Nope, not a single instance of revealing a single password among them all.
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Posted 03 April 2019 - 11:45 AM

I'm starting to think that Zuckerberg is an idiot savant who is just incapable of judging right from wrong. Why? Because this latest move isn't just another piece of evil. It's a staggeringly stupid maneuver that was virtually guaranteed to blow up in his face. There's no "well maybe it could work" to be had here. It was always going to be a serious fail and a PR nightmare on top of it. WTF is WRONG with him?

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Just two weeks after admitting it stored hundreds of millions of its users’ own passwords insecurely, Facebook is demanding some users fork over the password for their outside email account as the price of admission to the social network.

Facebook users are being interrupted by an interstitial demanding they provide the password for the email account they gave to Facebook when signing up. “To continue using Facebook, you’ll need to confirm your email,” the message demands. “Since you signed up with [email address], you can do that automatically …”

A form below the message asked for the users’ “email password.”

“That’s beyond sketchy,” security consultant Jake Williams told the Daily Beast. “They should not be taking your password or handling your password in the background. If that’s what’s required to sign up with Facebook, you’re better off not being on Facebook.”

In a statement emailed to The Daily Beast after this story published, Facebook reiterated its claim it doesn’t store the email passwords. But the company also announced it will end the practice altogether.

“We understand the password verification option isn’t the best way to go about this, so we are going to stop offering it,” Facebook wrote.

It’s not clear how widely the new measure was deployed, but in its statement Facebook said users retain the option of bypassing the password demand and activating their account through more conventional means, such as “a code sent to their phone or a link sent to their email.” Those options are presented to users who click on the words “Need help?” in one corner of the page.

The additional login step was noticed over the weekend by a cybersecurity watcher on Twitter called “e-sushi.” The Daily Beast tested the claim by establishing a new Facebook account under circumstances the company’s system might flag as suspicious, using a disposable webmail address and connecting through a VPN in Romania. A reporter was taken to the same screen demanding the email password.

“By going down that road, you're practically fishing for passwords you are not supposed to know!,” e-sushi wrote in a tweet.

Small print below the password field promises, “Facebook won’t store your password.” But the company has recently been criticized for repurposing information it originally acquired for “security” reasons.

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 01:02 PM

View PostLFC, on 03 April 2019 - 11:45 AM, said:

I'm starting to think that Zuckerberg is an idiot savant who is just incapable of judging right from wrong. Why? Because this latest move isn't just another piece of evil. It's a staggeringly stupid maneuver that was virtually guaranteed to blow up in his face. There's no "well maybe it could work" to be had here. It was always going to be a serious fail and a PR nightmare on top of it. WTF is WRONG with him?
Not unlike the POTUS, who is merely an idiot, incapable of judging right from wrong...

Of course that's not really true. Anything that enriches his wealth or ego is Right. Anything that doesn't is Wrong. It's all very simple.
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Posted 03 April 2019 - 01:55 PM

I think they are amoral. Zuckerberg might be smart enough not to be but he's convinced that technology is always good and he won't acknowledge that people can use it for bad purposes. Trump is just amoral.

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 02:58 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 03 April 2019 - 01:55 PM, said:

I think they are amoral. Zuckerberg might be smart enough not to be but he's convinced that technology is always good and he won't acknowledge that people can use it for bad purposes. Trump is just amoral.

Trump is both ammoral and immoral. It's not just bad behavior for his basic benefit. He truly enjoys being cruel to others. He's a psycopath. I could definitely see him as the kind of kid who tortured puppies.
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Posted 03 April 2019 - 05:56 PM

View PostLFC, on 03 April 2019 - 02:58 PM, said:

I could definitely see him as the kind of kid who tortured puppies.
"When you're a star, they let you do it."

Of course, now he has underlings to do the torturing.
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