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#1 D. R. Tucker

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 05:30 AM

A moderate Republican trying to unseat a conservative congressman from his own party, Art Moore sat a little stiffly at a Sizzler restaurant here during the monthly meeting of the Auburn Area Republican Women Federated. Appearing after the meeting’s agenda was already set, Mr. Moore was not invited to speak before the group — not that it would have made much of a difference.

He knew that many local Republican officials did not look kindly at his recent decision to challenge Representative Tom McClintock, a Tea Party favorite. One of them, Bonnie McAdams, was blunt about it.

“Don’t run against other Republicans,” Ms. McAdams, a member of the Republican Party’s central committee in Placer County, told Mr. Moore. “Go get the other guys. They’re the enemies, not the Republicans.”

Mr. Moore’s challenge in California’s Fourth Congressional District is an unusual one, even against the backdrop of the Republican Party’s internecine battles.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 06:37 AM

View PostD. R. Tucker, on 21 April 2014 - 05:30 AM, said:

“Don’t run against other Republicans,” Ms. McAdams, a member of the Republican Party’s central committee in Placer County, told Mr. Moore. “Go get the other guys. They’re the enemies, not the Republicans.”

Sounds like a ratchet to me.
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Posted 21 April 2014 - 07:43 AM

View PostD. R. Tucker, on 21 April 2014 - 05:30 AM, said:

A moderate Republican trying to unseat a conservative congressman from his own party, Art Moore sat a little stiffly at a Sizzler restaurant here during the monthly meeting of the Auburn Area Republican Women Federated. Appearing after the meeting’s agenda was already set, Mr. Moore was not invited to speak before the group — not that it would have made much of a difference.

He knew that many local Republican officials did not look kindly at his recent decision to challenge Representative Tom McClintock, a Tea Party favorite. One of them, Bonnie McAdams, was blunt about it.

“Don’t run against other Republicans,” Ms. McAdams, a member of the Republican Party’s central committee in Placer County, told Mr. Moore. “Go get the other guys. They’re the enemies, not the Republicans.”

Mr. Moore’s challenge in California’s Fourth Congressional District is an unusual one, even against the backdrop of the Republican Party’s internecine battles.

http://www.nytimes.c...-art-moore.html

Oh the irony in McAdam's statement ...

Moore is exactly the kind of Republican that was the reason I registered GOP in California. So that I can vote for these guys in the primaries (Democrats in California, like here in New York, are pretty uniformly progressive).
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Posted 21 April 2014 - 07:59 AM

View PostBanty, on 21 April 2014 - 07:43 AM, said:

Oh the irony in McAdam's statement ...

Total lack of self-awareness?
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Posted 21 April 2014 - 10:08 AM

View PostD. C. Sessions, on 21 April 2014 - 07:59 AM, said:



Total lack of self-awareness?

Right, I sure she has the same view of Tea Party candidates opposing more "moderate" GOP incumbents. Of course the "enemy" tag is part of the problem with all our politics.
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Posted 21 April 2014 - 11:35 AM

View PostD. R. Tucker, on 21 April 2014 - 05:30 AM, said:

“Don’t run against other Republicans,” Ms. McAdams, a member of the Republican Party’s central committee in Placer County, told Mr. Moore. “Go get the other guys. They’re the enemies, not the Republicans.”

So where is this outrage against the teatards when they constantly threaten to primary more sane Republicans?
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Posted 21 April 2014 - 11:45 AM

View PostAnBr, on 21 April 2014 - 11:35 AM, said:



So where is this outrage against the teatards when they constantly threaten to primary more sane Republicans?

It's pinging around in the empty 'tard' section of their brains.
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Posted 21 April 2014 - 01:22 PM

View PostAnBr, on 21 April 2014 - 11:35 AM, said:

So where is this outrage against the teatards when they constantly threaten to primary more sane Republicans?

Good point.
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Posted 21 April 2014 - 01:26 PM

View PostRue Bella, on 21 April 2014 - 11:45 AM, said:

It's pinging around in the empty 'tard' section of their brains.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 01:38 PM

View PostAnBr, on 21 April 2014 - 11:35 AM, said:

So where is this outrage against the teatards when they constantly threaten to primary more sane Republicans?
The outrage is where it belongs, raging against the sane Republicans. The team is "Team Crazy" and the opponent is "Team Sane" - you gotta drive all the sane ones off your team so that the partisan alignment is properly calibrated, then it is easy to identify who is and is not an enemy, right?
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Posted 21 April 2014 - 02:52 PM

McClintock is a piece of work. He was a state legislator from Ventura for years and knew he could not get elected to Congress here so he looked around the state and moved to Roseville area to get elected. He also ran for Governor against Arnie. He is a numbers guy, a budget guy. He is very smart and very partisan.
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Posted 21 April 2014 - 03:10 PM

View PostSinan, on 21 April 2014 - 02:52 PM, said:

He is a numbers guy, a budget guy. He is very smart and very partisan.

A Tea Party type who is a numbers and budget guy sounds like an oxymoron. To be one you have to abandon the other. Of course you can be like Paul Ryan and PRETEND to do both, but you can't actually do both.
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Posted 21 April 2014 - 03:32 PM

View PostLFC, on 21 April 2014 - 03:10 PM, said:

A Tea Party type who is a numbers and budget guy sounds like an oxymoron. To be one you have to abandon the other. Of course you can be like Paul Ryan and PRETEND to do both, but you can't actually do both.

Well, he is really just an accountant which is all Ryan is really. Balance the ledgers, create an income statement and stop the engineers from spending money on that next design. That is all he is, a CFO whose sole job it is to keep the stock price up for investors. Very short sighted thinker.
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Posted 21 April 2014 - 03:32 PM

Democracts in CA are uniformly progressive but there's still a huge difference between the pragmatic ones with the levers of power like Gov Brown and some of the movement progressives who are on the fringes but still give us their votes in the legislature.
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Posted 21 April 2014 - 06:26 PM

View PostBanty, on 21 April 2014 - 01:26 PM, said:

IDWYATT

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Is this a variant of IOKIYAR?
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