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#1 AnBr

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Posted 31 January 2020 - 06:01 PM



Critics of Fox News may discount the effectiveness of the right wing outlet’s effort to transform America into a fascist theocracy controlled by the ultra-rich and extremist evangelicals, but that would be a monumental mistake. Like all successful propaganda agencies, Fox broadcasts talking points crafted by evangelical and corporate activists nonstop until their mendacious messaging is considered biblical truths.

Fox News, like Republicans and Trump, could never succeed as an ultra-conservative propaganda outlet without an ignorant population. The only way to continue having success at propagandizing is convincing Americans that being educated and informed is detrimental to the nation and its citizens; something Fox and Republicans have been very successful at over the past two years.

The idea that education is bad for the country is contrary to the belief of the Declaration of Independence’s author, Founding Father and third American President Thomas Jefferson. He said:

“An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people.”

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Posted 31 January 2020 - 06:39 PM

View PostAnBr, on 31 January 2020 - 06:01 PM, said:

It's not at all contrary. In fact, it takes Jefferson as their guide.
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Posted 31 January 2020 - 06:42 PM

Two years?!??

Try twenty times that, starting with the likes of the televangelists and Robertson's odious "700 Club" in the 1970s. They were peddling alternate realities well before Faux Noise picked up the mantle...in what, the early 1990s?

Moreover, the canard about institutions of higher learning being "bastions of EVIL liberalism" has been around for what seems like forEVER. It's almost a surprise that that percentage isn't higher.

Edited by Bact PhD, 31 January 2020 - 06:48 PM.

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Posted 31 January 2020 - 06:44 PM


Fox News, like Republicans and Trump, could never succeed as an ultra-conservative propaganda outlet without an ignorant population

An ignorant population that is encouraged to breed the next generation of voters in just over under 2 decades. Every baby born is a potential vote for their god ...and political party. Religion and the GOP - a match made in hell.



Republicans Have More Kids Than Democrats. A Lot More Kids.

Liberals are not having enough babies to keep up with conservatives. Arthur Brooks, a social scientist at Syracuse University, was the first to point this out all the way back in 2006 when he went on ABC News and blew blue staters minds. “The political Right is having a lot more kids than the political Left,” he explained. “The gap is actually 41 percent.” Data on the U.S. birth rate from the General Social Survey confirms this trend—a random sample of 100 conservative adults will raise 208 children, while 100 liberal adults will raise a mere 147 kids. That’s a massive gap.
When we collected the number of children per capita in each state and then compared the data to statewide voting records, we found that the trend is so strong, that it can even be observed at the state level. Red States came out with significantly more kids per capita than Blue States.

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Posted 31 January 2020 - 07:21 PM

Five years and a day ago, I posted the 1914 Walter Lippmann quote below to another comment on this site. With luck, the statute of limitations on doubleposting has expired. My emphasis added:


The politics of reconstruction require a nation vastly better educated, a nation freed from its slovenly ways of thinking, stimulated by wider interests, and jacked up constantly by the sharpest kind of criticism. It is puerile to say that institutions must be changed from top to bottom and then assume that their victims are prepared to make the change. No amount of charters, direct primaries, or short ballots make a democracy out of an illiterate people. Those portions of America where there are voting booths but no schools cannot possibly be described as democracies. Nor can the person who reads one corrupt newspaper and then goes out to vote make any claim to having registered his will. He may have a will, but he has not used it.

For politics whose only ideal is the routine, it is just as well that men shouldn’t know what they want or how to express it. Education has always been a considerable nuisance to the conservative intellect. In the Southern States, culture among the negroes is openly deplored, and I do not blame any patriarch for dreading the education of women. It is out of culture that the substance of real revolutions is made. If by some magic force you could grant women the vote and then keep them from schools and colleges, newspapers and lectures, the suffrage would be no more effective than a Blue Law against kissing your wife on Sunday. It is democratic machinery with an educated citizenship behind it that embodies all the fears of the conservative and the hopes of the radical.

Culture is the name for what people are interested in, their thoughts, their models, the books they read and the speeches they hear, their table-talk, gossip, controversies, historical sense and scientific training, the values they appreciate, the quality of life they admire. All communities have a culture. It is the climate of their civilization. Without a favorable culture political schemes are a mere imposition. They will not work without a people to work them.

It is as futile to blame viewers of FOX News for their miseducation as it is to attempt to appease them. Like the man in the bolded text above, they may have wills, but have not the knowledge to freely use them.

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