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#1 indy

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 12:32 PM

This probably isn't worthy of its own thread, but I got tired of looking for the right one to put it in.

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Roger Stone has been found guilty on all charges in a case accusing the longtime Donald Trump adviser of seeking to thwart a House investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

After a trial that spanned just over a week, a federal court jury in Washington, D.C., convicted Stone on five felony counts of lying to investigators, one count of obstructing a congressional probe and one count of witness tampering.

https://www.politico...ampering-071124

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 01:03 PM

View Postindy, on 15 November 2019 - 12:32 PM, said:

This probably isn't worthy of its own thread, but I got tired of looking for the right one to put it in.



https://www.politico...ampering-071124

That particular clown was at least a little entertaining though we shouldn't laugh at crazy people I guess.

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 01:32 PM

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 01:37 PM

Lock him up!
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 01:48 PM

I think we are going to need one of those javascript widgets like they use for the national debt to keep track of the people in Trump's orbit that end up in the hoosegow.

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 01:49 PM

Of course, there's always room for one more who is about 6'2", weighs 240 or so, with very small...hands.

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 03:28 PM

I hope the Stone conviction and probable prison time shakes a bit more truth from various impeachment witnesses.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 06:01 PM

There's been lots of talk -- a great deal of it from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave -- about Trump pardoning the people who are going to jail for their roles in creating the present shitshow.

I guess we'll see, because if Stone doesn't get one we can pretty safely figure that the only remaining candidates are his own children.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 06:07 PM

OTOH, if he's been pardoned he can't decline to testify on Fifth Amendment grounds.
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Posted 16 November 2019 - 10:49 AM

View Postindy, on 15 November 2019 - 12:32 PM, said:

This probably isn't worthy of its own thread, but I got tired of looking for the right one to put it in.

We seem to be finding over and over that nearly every thread dealing with Trump corruption could end up being in folded into the Russia Investigations thread. All roads lead to Russia and Trump is Putin's bitch.
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Posted 16 November 2019 - 11:30 AM

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We seem to be finding over and over that nearly every thread dealing with Trump corruption could end up being in folded into the Russia Investigations thread. All roads lead to Russia and Trump is Putin's bitch.

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Posted 16 November 2019 - 11:32 AM

View PostRue Bella, on 16 November 2019 - 11:30 AM, said:

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Posted 16 November 2019 - 12:49 PM

So, we have Stone convicted of lying when he denied contacts with Wikileaks before the email dump. This implies that he WAS in contact with Wikileaks and Assange. And therefore the campaign was conspiring with Wikileaks, no?

So how come this wasn't evidence of collusion with conspiracy? I presume the Stone matter was still in grand jury at the time of the report, so anything said about it would have been redacted.

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Posted 16 November 2019 - 01:45 PM

Mueller believed he was not permitted to come to conclusions as to the criminality of any of Trump's actions.

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Posted 16 November 2019 - 04:43 PM

View PostJackD, on 16 November 2019 - 01:45 PM, said:

Mueller believed he was not permitted to come to conclusions as to the criminality of any of Trump's actions.

Kind of silly. He should know that the current practice is to just do it anyway and see where the dust settles.
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Posted 16 November 2019 - 05:43 PM

Well, he did have that problem with DOJ policy and he was working for the DOJ.

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Posted 16 November 2019 - 06:16 PM

View PostJackD, on 16 November 2019 - 05:43 PM, said:

Well, he did have that problem with DOJ policy and he was working for the DOJ.

He could say right now that he would have indicted Trump except for that policy--what would anyone do about it?
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Posted 16 November 2019 - 07:33 PM

He could but he decided to stay out of the politics. He certainly has no obligation to enter the political fray. He basically said to Congress, here's what the evidence was; draw your own conclusions. Congress wanted hm to be a front man and he didn't want to do that.

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Posted 16 November 2019 - 07:55 PM

That's pretty much abetting lawlessness on the part of the POTUS. OK, he can make that choice I guess, but IMO it's completely the wrong choice.
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Posted 16 November 2019 - 08:00 PM

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