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The Neocon Plans for the Middle East


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Posted 06 November 2019 - 01:49 PM

This is a longish bashing of Gen. Patraeus which is fine (he deserved prison for giving out classified info in exchange for gettin' some) but I wanted to bring up this one little tidbit quoted below. Itshould scare the shit out of anybody with sense. This is the kind of world view that the likes of Pompeo and Bolton have. The neocons are at least down for a bit but they are in no way out.

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Lesson one: “Islamist extremists will exploit ungoverned spaces in the Muslim world. It’s not a question of if, it’s a question of when and how bad is it.”

If this is known, then why has the United States spent the entire war on terror creating as many ungoverned spaces in the Middle East as possible? The answer is that, as was recounted by General Wesley Clark in 2007, after the September 11 attacks, there was a “policy coup” in which “some hard-nosed people took over the direction of American foreign policy and they never bothered to inform the rest of us.” Clark says he was informed in October 2001 that the plan going forward was to strike seven countries in five years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran.

You don’t need to whitewash the wickedness of Saddam Hussein or Bashar al-Assad or the Ayatollah to understand that none of them have supported the kind of Sunni jihadist terrorism that came to American shores. So what was the rationale behind this (ongoing) strategy?

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Posted 06 November 2019 - 02:31 PM

Remember that part about "our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity?"

Yeah, that's the point. Neocons see the United States as the New Rome, astride the world with the mightiest army ever and never hesitating to spend blood [1] and treasure [2] to stay on top.

[1] Not theirs, stupid.
[2] You weren't listening, were you?
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