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#1 AnBr

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Posted 02 November 2019 - 04:20 PM

Given how so much of the Russian and right-wing's manipulations are via social media as well as where Twitler's texting diarrhea occurs I thought I would start a thread for it. First up, an Axios article entitled "Zuckerberg’s power to hurt Trump".

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Top Republicans are privately worried about a new threat to President Trump’s campaign: the possibility of Facebook pulling a Twitter and banning political ads.

Why it matters: Facebook says it won't, but future regulatory pressure could change that. If Facebook were to ban — or even limit — ads, it could upend Trump’s fundraising and re-election plan, GOP officials tell Axios.
  • Trump relies heavily — much more so than Democrats — on targeted Facebook ads to shape views and raise money.

Red flag: Kara Swisher, of Recode, the super plugged-in tech writer, predicted on CNBC's "Squawk Box" that Mark Zuckerberg will ultimately buckle on allowing demonstrably false political adds on Facebook: "He's going to change his mind — 100% ... [H]e's done it before."

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Pray for Trump: Psalm 109:8

"Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time - when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers arc in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

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Posted 06 January 2021 - 07:54 PM

Twitter execs grew a pair and (temporarily—12hrs) banned Dolt45 from the platform.

https://www.cnn.com/...ount/index.html

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The temporary lock reflects Trump's violation of the Twitter rules, the company said.
"We have required the removal of three @realDonaldTrump Tweets that were posted earlier today for repeated and severe violations of our Civic Integrity Policy," Twitter said.


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Posted 06 January 2021 - 08:07 PM

"Tweets that were posted earlier today for repeated and severe violations of our Civic Integrity Policy,"

This sentence could literally have been written on any of the last 1,447 days.
"strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence"

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Posted 06 January 2021 - 08:25 PM

I should have prefaced that last post of mine with, “From the ‘Too Little, Too Late’ Department.”
Politics these days is show business. Elections are Dancing with the Stars with consequences. ~Rue Bella

(About fame) Living for likes, shares and follows is a form of validation. The question is whether it is also the source of our self esteem. If it is, we’re screwed. And, culturally, it seems as if it’s become more and more our shared value. ... Meringue is no longer a sweet and pretty topping but the body itself. ~Charles Perez

The trouble is that editors and their journalists are simply employees of large profit-seeking corporations whose executives have no idea of what "truth" is; only "ratings" or "clicks" or share price. ~Rich T Bikkies, 10/1/2020

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." --Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816. ME 14:384, via LFC, 12/1/2016

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 07:48 AM

Locked out of twitter...but not the nuclear launch codes. I'm glad this country has its priorities in order.

On the news yesterday virtually everyone discussed how the capitol was 'desecrated' and I kept thinking 'now it's a matched set with the white house!'

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 11:21 AM

Twitter announces that Trump is indefinitely suspended. Still has the launch codes though.

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 11:24 AM

Facebook too.

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Posted 07 January 2021 - 11:26 AM

Oops, sorry. Just facebook, not twitter.

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Posted 08 January 2021 - 06:48 PM

Permanently suspended by Twitter. Suck it, Trump.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 08 January 2021 - 06:53 PM

 LFC, on 08 January 2021 - 06:48 PM, said:


This is sort of too bad. That Twitter feed was the source of much hilarity in my house. We'll have to find someone else to laugh at.

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Posted 08 January 2021 - 07:13 PM

Here's Twitter's explanation for suspending the account in part:

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Overview
On January 8, 2021, President Donald J. Trump tweeted:
“The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”
Shortly thereafter, the President tweeted:
“To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.”
Due to the ongoing tensions in the United States, and an uptick in the global conversation in regards to the people who violently stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021, these two Tweets must be read in the context of broader events in the country and the ways in which the President’s statements can be mobilized by different audiences, including to incite violence, as well as in the context of the pattern of behavior from this account in recent weeks. After assessing the language in these Tweets against our Glorification of Violence policy, we have determined that these Tweets are in violation of the Glorification of Violence Policy and the user @realDonaldTrump should be immediately permanently suspended from the service.

We assessed the two Tweets referenced above under our Glorification of Violence policy, which aims to prevent the glorification of violence that could inspire others to replicate violent acts and determined that they were highly likely to encourage and inspire people to replicate the criminal acts that took place at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.
This determination is based on a number of factors, including:
  • President Trump’s statement that he will not be attending the Inauguration is being received by a number of his supporters as further confirmation that the election was not legitimate and is seen as him disavowing his previous claim made via two Tweets (1, 2) by his Deputy Chief of Staff, Dan Scavino, that there would be an “orderly transition” on January 20th.
  • The second Tweet may also serve as encouragement to those potentially considering violent acts that the Inauguration would be a “safe” target, as he will not be attending.
  • The use of the words “American Patriots” to describe some of his supporters is also being interpreted as support for those committing violent acts at the US Capitol.
  • The mention of his supporters having a “GIANT VOICE long into the future” and that “They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!” is being interpreted as further indication that President Trump does not plan to facilitate an “orderly transition” and instead that he plans to continue to support, empower, and shield those who believe he won the election.
  • Plans for future armed protests have already begun proliferating on and off-Twitter, including a proposed secondary attack on the US Capitol and state capitol buildings on January 17, 2021.
As such, our determination is that the two Tweets above are likely to inspire others to replicate the violent acts that took place on January 6, 2021, and that there are multiple indicators that they are being received and understood as encouragement to do so.


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Posted 08 January 2021 - 07:16 PM

 golden_valley, on 08 January 2021 - 06:53 PM, said:

This is sort of too bad. That Twitter feed was the source of much hilarity in my house. We'll have to find someone else to laugh at.

Devin Nunes. Or his cow.
"strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence"

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Posted 08 January 2021 - 07:52 PM

 baw1064, on 08 January 2021 - 07:16 PM, said:

Devin Nunes. Or his cow.
Is his cow getting a presidential medal of freedom too?
"All glory to the HypnoTrump, or else..."

"It all makes sense when you remind yourself that the GOP is no longer a political party but turned into an organized crime family"

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Posted 08 January 2021 - 07:58 PM

 pnwguy, on 08 January 2021 - 07:52 PM, said:

Is his cow getting a presidential medal of freedom too?

Nunes is an old tired joke in here in CA.

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Posted 08 January 2021 - 08:50 PM

 pnwguy, on 08 January 2021 - 07:52 PM, said:

Is his cow getting a presidential medal of freedom too?

We could give Nunes a Presidential Cow Pie of Freedom.
"strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence"

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Posted 08 January 2021 - 10:35 PM

Add Reddit to the list.
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Posted 09 January 2021 - 12:33 AM

https://www.buzzfeed...tens-ban-parler

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Apple has given Parler, the social network favored by conservatives and extremists, an ultimatum to implement a full moderation plan of its platform within the next 24 hours or face expulsion from the App store.

In an email sent this morning and obtained by BuzzFeed News, Apple wrote to Parler’s executives that there had been complaints that the service had been used to plan and coordinate the storming of the US Capitol by President Donald Trump’s supporters on Wednesday. The insurrection left five people dead, including a police officer.

"We have received numerous complaints regarding objectionable content in your Parler service, accusations that the Parler app was used to plan, coordinate, and facilitate the illegal activities in Washington D.C. on January 6, 2021 that led (among other things) to loss of life, numerous injuries, and the destruction of property,” Apple wrote to Parler. “The app also appears to continue to be used to plan and facilitate yet further illegal and dangerous activities.”

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Posted 09 January 2021 - 12:11 PM

 Rue Bella, on 09 January 2021 - 12:33 AM, said:


I heard this AM that Android already pulled them.

I have to admit to a bit of schadenfreude when I realize that Parler will continue but with private downloads. Now just imagine this with me. There's a big, flashy, professional looking page. It has pro-Trump, raging, screaming, bug-eyed stuff all over it. The MAGAts eat it up with a spoon. Then you get a big banner that says, "JOIN THE CONVERSATION! CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD PARLER!" Bye bye bank accounts and time to replace all those credit cards!
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 07:09 PM

Predictable but that doesn't lessen my schadenfreude.

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President Donald Trump is “ballistic,” after Twitter finally removed his account on Friday, according to a Politico report.

The social media platform’s decision comes days before Trump leaves office and well after a good deal of damage that culminated in a deadly insurrection by his followers at the U.S. Capitol earlier this week had been done.

A senior administration official told Politico that the President was “scrambling to figure out what his options are” after learning that the social media platform which he has used as a megaphone for years — spewing falsehood and inciting his supporters to violence — had permanently suspended his account.

Twitter cited concerns that Trump might enflame further violence in the remaining 12 days before the end of his term as the reason for his removal from the platform.

One White House official told the publication that there were initial internal discussions between White House aides and Trump about possibly doing a “last farewell interview.” The official was uncertain, however, whether or not those plans would come to fruition.

In a statement issued by the White House late Friday, President Trump said he had “predicted” his expulsion from the platform and accused Twitter executives of coordinating with “Democrats and the Radical Left” to remove his account to silence him and the supporters who had voted for him in November.

“Twitter may be a private company, but without the government’s gift of Section 230 they would not exist for long,” he said.

In an effort to desperately hang onto the coattails of political relevance beyond his term, Trump added that he had been in negotiations with “various other sites” and would soon deliver what he called a “big announcement” as his team considers the possibilities of “building out our own platform in the near future.”

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

"That's the problem with being implacable foes - no one has any incentive to treat you as anything more than an obstacle to be overcome."

"The 'Road to Serfdom' is really all right turns." --Progressive Whisperer

""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 08:06 PM

There is scuttlebutt that Trump is suing Twitter "based on the novel argument that these social media giants denied his free-speech rights in COORDINATION with Democrat GOVERNMENT officials to whom they donate and with whom they privately communicate".

I assume Powell and/or Giuliani will be leading the charge.





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