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Posted 17 September 2019 - 10:27 AM

Too funny! I guess Rod Dreher couldn't take the challenge and had me banned. What a pathetic little shit.

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 10:55 AM

Wear it with pride brother
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Posted 17 September 2019 - 11:08 AM

What devilry got you banned?

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 11:16 AM

Who knows? I've challenged Dreher multiple times which is the likely culprit. He's descending ever further into madness, constantly screeching about the Drag Queen Story Hour (which I literally have not read about anyplace else), transgender people, anything approving of gays, etc. He honestly believes that he and his ilk are victims of the nefarious, "woke", "social justice warriors" who are going to force them to give up their religion or lose their jobs. He's a pigeon continually in search of the smallest seed of effrontery. If somebody points out what the religious right is doing and has done for centuries he plays the "both sideism" card. He really is the perfect religious zealot victim stereotype.

I also laid out a strong case about the bogus climate change article that tried to make the case why fossil fuels can't go. That post got killed shortly before the ban. I've produced posts with data, examples, and charts. Apparently that kind of shit doesn't fly at TAC nowadays. Too bad they've also fallen off the conservatism bandwagon. Larison is the last constently sane, fact-based voice remaining.
" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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Posted 17 September 2019 - 12:14 PM

View PostLFC, on 17 September 2019 - 11:16 AM, said:

Apparently that kind of shit doesn't fly at TAC nowadays. Too bad they've also fallen off the conservatism bandwagon. Larison is the last constently sane, fact-based voice remaining.

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 03:39 PM

I dropped by TAC again today and the headline article is worthy of Breitbart. It's sad that this was once a conservative outlet I could recommend to people. Not anymore. I'm not sure there are any that have devolved into Trumpish ridiculousness.

Here's the opener. It gets more and more insane, just a big steaming bowl of innuendo spaghetti..

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Well, it came a little later than most people expected, but Hunter Biden’s colorful resume has turned into a campaign issue after all. The New York Post‘s bombshell report last week—evidence that Hunter, as was long suspected, had capitalized on access to his VP father while serving on the board of a Ukrainian energy company—is likely to hurt Quid Pro Joe’s campaign in these final, crucial stages. What’s more, major online platforms’ blatant attempts to censor that reporting are sure to spark backlash among voters next month.

When they’re not openly running interference by blocking links to sourced exposés, powerful media and cultural institutions rely on simple spin to aid the Biden campaign. The prodigal son’s misdeeds—from influence-peddling to crack-smoking to paternity disputes—are cast as youthful indiscretions. What this generous bit of gaslighting invites us to forget is that Hunter Biden is not some twenty-something screwup just trying to find his way—Hunter Biden is 50 years old, with a long, established track record of ethical violations stretching back over much of that half-century. Burisma is just one episode in a protracted saga of apparent corruption and cover-ups. Let’s look back on the beginnings of the pattern.

In the last years of the last millennium a 26-year-old Hunter Biden, fresh out of Yale Law and the son of a 24-year-incumbent U.S. senator, got a gig as deputy campaign manager for his dad’s reelection bid, and also took a cushy job at a bank holding company that happened to be one of his father’s biggest campaign funders. After less than three years there—in which he managed to become the company’s executive vice president—Hunter headed to the U.S. Department of Commerce for the last 3 years of the Clinton administration, hired on the orders of Commerce Secretary William Daley (who happened to have worked on Joe’s first presidential campaign). As Clinton was about to leave office, Hunter left government and turned to lobbying—becoming, as Brian Anderson observed here at TAC, “an expert in copyright enforcement, Ukrainian geopolitics, and other complex policy issues at precisely the same moment that his father began to oversee them in government.” (He was hired on to a skyrocketing startup firm by cofounder William Oldaker—another Biden ’88 adviser.)

In 2006, it was time for Hunter to get out of lobbying. (The fact that Joe once again had his eyes set on the White House may well have influenced this decision.) Joe’s younger brother, James stepped in to help. James has been more successful and more audacious even than Hunter in cashing in on family ties. In one incident, James joined construction giant HillStone International as executive vice president 3 weeks before the firm snagged a $1.5 billion contract to rebuild houses in war-torn Iraq while Joe was in the White House helping wage the war. (James had no previous experience in the construction business.) He was, in many ways, the perfect mentor for Hunter.


Politico did a both sides report. The accusations from the non-Bidens sound, to be blunt, as cartoonish as anything Giuliani has spun up. It certainly does seem that the kids tried to parlay political connections into profitable ventures. Gee, what a shock. Not like that anybody has ever done that before (*cough* George W. Bush *cough, cough*). But in comparison to the frothing at TAC we do have this reality check.

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Biden’s image as a straight-shooting man of the people, however, is clouded by the careers of his son and brother, who have lengthy track records of making, or seeking, deals that cash in on his name. There’s no evidence that Joe Biden used his power inappropriately or took action to benefit his relatives with respect to these ventures. Interviews, court records, government filings and news reports, however, reveal that some members of the Biden family have consistently mixed business and politics over nearly half a century, moving from one business to the next as Joe’s stature in Washington grew.

None of the ventures appear to have been runaway successes, and Biden’s relatives have not been accused of criminal wrongdoing in their dealings. But over the years, several of their partners and associates have ended up indicted or convicted. The dealings have brought Joe unwelcome scrutiny and threaten to distract from his presidential bid.


It's now too late for anything they dig up or, more to the point, make up to have any real impact on the election. Even if they had pure, oppo research gold on Hunter it will be dismissed as likely false until it's fully vetted at which point it will be too late. The media has finally learned after 77th time the right has cried wolf ... on Biden. Add a few zeroes to the end of that for Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
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Posted 21 October 2020 - 04:01 PM

More right-wingnut drivel from TAC, this time an article on how supposed conservative principles can fix healthcare. To be fair it's not pure drive but here are a few of the well debunked Paul Ryan-esque talking points that simply haven't or can't work. This is a thoughtless propaganda piece with no original thoughts and way too many stupid ones. TAC is slipping deeper into the cesspool of right-wing politics.

All you need out of this quote is "we can harness the markets and incentives."

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We won’t go back to a time when all Americans paid for their own healthcare, but we don’t need the government pay for almost all of it. And we don’t have to make it so horribly inefficient. Instead, we can harness markets and incentives to allow our healthcare system to deliver better goods and services for less, even while making sure more Americans get coverage.

HSAs are magical!

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For starters, we can switch all those trillions of dollars in wasteful government healthcare spending into something consumers actually want, called Health Savings Accounts or HSAs. Instead of having a government board set the price of everything from knee surgery to eye exams, we could let poorer and older Americans take cash subsidies where they will. Consumer shopping would drive down prices and create a market for innovative new services. Avik Roy has proposed a plan that does exactly that, as a substitute for Medicare and Medicaid. We should support this reform.

Everybody gets to shop for their own insurance! What could go wrong?

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At the same time, we could make sure that the government no longer forces people to pick an insurance plan from their employer: what some call the “original sin” of American healthcare policy. Instead we could allow employers to put money into private HSAs, so their employees could shop for insurance and service on their own. Roy and Senator Rand Paul have proposed bills that do this. We should support them too.

Cross-state insurance was tried on a local basis. Almost no company bothered. So already tried, already failed.

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Insurance companies have found ways to segment the market by making sure that every state has its own rules and regulations. We could open up the insurance market to competition again, by allowing contracts in one state to work in another.

Ooooo, tort reform! Remember the Harvard study that found the overwhelming cause of malpractice suits were due to ... MALPRACTICE!

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Tort lawyers are also feasting on the healthcare system. Today, 2.5% of all medical spending, or over $50 billion, is spent either on direct lawsuit costs or defensive medicine. Some states have actually reformed this, like Texas, which in 2003 capped medical liability payments at $250,000 in 2003. Since then, liability insurance in the state has dropped by a fourth, the state has seen an influx of new doctors, and a decrease in defensive medicine.

And now the i-word, INNOVATION! This is also a magical incantation.

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In the long run, however, there is only one thing that will bring prices down and increase access, and that is innovation. Innovation is a positive-sum process that increases the pie for everybody. And luckily, America still leads the world in healthcare innovation: in health IT, in devices, and in drugs.


And then there's the author. It's not a surprise he has no background in this topic.

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Joe Lonsdale is a founding partner of 8VC and cofounder of Palantir.

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Posted 24 November 2020 - 10:22 AM

Another day, another non-conservative piece. It's called It’s Time for Conservatives to Dump Trump which sounds like it could be reasonable on the surface. The author actually does put the blame for Trump's loss on Trump, something that apparently makes him a RINO per several comments, but the crazy is embedded in the middle. Here's what this "conservative" thinks about Trump and his supporters. I was going to bold the most crazy parts but realized that encompassed roughly half of this handful of sentences.

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It’s easy to understand why the president’s true-blue supporters continue to cling to him even now. He took on the establishment on their behalf and, for a time, had it on the ropes. He stood up for the forgotten, the displaced, the maligned, the ignored, the “deplorables”—in short, the victims of the policies and actions of the country’s meritocratic elites, who have dominated political discourse (though not always political outcomes) for the past half-century.

It’s easy to see why these Trump supporters also consider him a martyr based on the vicious backlash that greeted his election four years ago—the stealthy effort to undermine his authority through deep-state machinations; the establishment bloodhounds braying after him as a traitor to his country without any credible evidence; the rabid allegations of “obstruction of justice” that were quickly set aside at impeachment time (when, if there had been any merit to them, they would have been brought forward); the frenzied impeachment assault itself.

This is all valid thinking. The Trump opposition refused to accept the legitimacy of the election in a host of ways, some truly nefarious. It was a disgrace, rendered all the more so by the prospect now, with Joe Biden’s election, that those who perpetrated these reprehensible actions will never be held to account.

" 'Individual conscience' means that women only get contraceptives if their employers, their physicians, their pharmacists, their husbands and/or fathers, pastors, and possibly their mayors, Governors, State Secretaries of Health, Congressmen, Senators, and President all agree that in that particular case they're justifiable." --D.C. Sessions

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""The GOP ... where every accusation is also a confession." --Progressive Whisperer

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Posted 24 November 2020 - 11:23 AM

View PostLFC, on 24 November 2020 - 10:22 AM, said:

Another day, another non-conservative piece. It's called It’s Time for Conservatives to Dump Trump which sounds like it could be reasonable on the surface. The author actually does put the blame for Trump's loss on Trump, something that apparently makes him a RINO per several comments, but the crazy is embedded in the middle. Here's what this "conservative" thinks about Trump and his supporters. I was going to bold the most crazy parts but realized that encompassed roughly half of this handful of sentences.

Glad you're reading this so we don't have too. Am dang sick of hearing about a deep state. We have a professional civil service that is bulky and resistant to change, yes. But that civil service is filled with professionals who know the subject matter they're working with. Trump and his loyalists had no idea what was real. They only had bar room talk and a warped view of what government really does and why it exists.

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Posted 24 November 2020 - 02:07 PM

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... But that civil service is filled with professionals who know the subject matter they're working with. Trump and his loyalists had no idea what was real. They only had bar room talk and a warped view of what government really does and why it exists.

Having been part of the Civil Service and Military for many years, its amusing to me how the "swamp drainers" had absolutely NO IDEA how to work in government or make government work for them. Its also going to be amusing when the people who thought they were smart and erased their office hard drive, find out that:

1. Bureaucrats keep records of whatever the bosses send

2. There are more than one place to store documents. The office "Backup Copy" isn't the only place where records are kept (see above)

3. I'm willing to make money on how a "shadow" file system was developed to document the shenanigans of the "Swamp Drainers".

One other boneheaded thing the current people kept doing was think they could just wave a hand and "make it so"; only to be told time and again, to follow the pertinent laws.

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Posted 24 November 2020 - 02:10 PM

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One other boneheaded think the current people kept doing was think they could just wave a hand and "make it so"

A lot of people think that. I saw it in the context of voting in general, processing vote by mail ballots, and counting ballots. People really seemed unaware that there are laws and regulations governing it all. They sincerely believe that governors and elections officials just made up stuff as they went along.

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Posted 24 November 2020 - 03:01 PM

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3. I'm willing to make money on how a "shadow" file system was developed to document the shenanigans of the "Swamp Drainers".

They had at least some notion of it. Why else where so many Trumpies caught using private email addresses? By law these must be archived. I'm sure they're "lost." I'd love to see the DOJ under Biden uphold the law and find them.
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Posted 10 December 2020 - 10:59 AM

Nobody plays the victim like a right-wing Christian and Dreher is a professional right-wing Christian victim. In his latest post he is whining, with no hint of irony, how morality clauses are now being placed into employment contracts and that people could get fired for things they do in their personal life. From what he wrote and quoted all you need do is read this utterly clueless paragraph. The blinders are the sized of barn doors. No, I'm afraid that this is not satire.

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How far can this go? You tell me. My guess is that in the past, most companies would not have cared overmuch what you did in your private life, as long as you were a hardworking and honest employee. Now, though, if you cross any number of lines, you can be fired for bringing moral disapproval onto the company — if the company has a morals clause in your employment contract.


As I've said before you go to TAC to read Larison and read the comments on Dreher and there are a number of excellent comments to this drivel. Here are a few of my favorites.

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In the recent past, it would have been unheard of for someone to hold a company responsible for words spoken or deeds done by an employee away from the office, not in an official capacity.

How recent is recent? Go back 30-40 years and you could get fired for the below because it makes the company look bad...

Fired because you get divorced.
Fired because you married someone of another race.
Fired because you're gay.
Fired because you got pregnant (married or not)
Fired because you registered with the wrong political party (communist)
and on and on...

The era of companies not policing out of the workplace actions because of how it reflects on them is really very short.


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Well, this is certainly ironic.

Because contrary to what you may think, employers firing employees for "morality" issues was very common in the past...and we're talking about a matter of decades, not centuries. What am I talking about? In the fifties or sixties, if your employer found out you were gay, you would probably be fired for it. That started to change in the seventies, but even into the nineties it was known to happen (Cracker Barrel comes to mind). For that matter, it happened more recently than that, since none of the firings that led to June's Supreme Court decision that anti-gay discrimination in hiring is illegal are anywhere near that old.

You also mentioned the horror of the idea that an employer could fire an employee for putting up a Trump yard sign at home. But as recently as 2012, there were multiple reports of employees being fired for supporting Obama. Were you equally outraged by the idea that could happen? As it turns out, political affiliation and beliefs are not considered to be a protected class when it comes to anti-discrimination laws.

I suspect that much of this could have been avoided if conservatives had shown some willingness to sit down and negotiate in good faith a few years back. Alas, with very few exceptions (Utah comes to mind), that never happened.

One thing that might be worth considering is what sort of shape an agreement that both left and right could live with might look like. Because while a part of me thinks back to conservative indifference to anti-gay discrimination in the recent past and to conservative business owners firing employees for supporting the wrong party just eight years ago, I also recognize that old grievances do need to fade and shouldn't get in the way of good policy decisions. And I see little benefit in letting employers closely police the political views of their employees. Especially since (as conservatives have discovered), you never can tell when things might shift to the point where you're on the wrong side of that policing.


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History certainly does rhyme does it not?[indent]

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Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?
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Many of the people whose lives were ruined or who were tarred as "fellow travelers" were merely seen to be going to a meeting and not because they had said or done anything. It was based on suspicions, hints, much like the Cultural Revolution.

Same with the Lavender Scare, which happened around the same time and started by the same people. One of whom, Roy Cohn, was homosexual himself. Be seen near a homosexual/lesbian bar? You're gone.

Often, it is not being woke or protecting us from the scary commies, but for power or control, that these crusades happen. That and hysteria, like the child abuse scare of the 1980s.


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I'm having fun here but this time you deserve it. If you want to look at a soft totalitarianism, look at the Christian dominated culture of the 1950s, where everything was for your own good even if meant being fired for what some nutcase thought was immoral. Well, the shoe is on the other foot now. Your folk are ones who are immoral and the morals clauses championed by church folk are going to be used to fire them. Talk about something coming back to bite!

You brought it on yourselves this time. You had the opportunity. You could have established the principal that if it did not affect the job performance it was none of the company's business, even written it into law. But no. You wanted a moral society so people could be good no matter how many lives were ruined in the processs. Well, you Christians dug that pit. Have fun climbing out of it.

You know, when Jesus was supposed have said the "judge not " line I doubt that he had this in mind. To the Romans the very concept would have been madness and Jesus probably never said a word attributed to him anyway. But in retrospect it sure is appropriate because after centuries of cheerfully judging everyone else, it is your turn to be judged and found wanting.

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Posted 10 December 2020 - 02:06 PM

Good Grief, the "morals clauses" in Hollywood contracts under the old studio system aren't that far in the past at all (Mommie Dearest's lifetime isn't exactly the horse-and-buggy era). Dreher is willfully ignorant on this one. The last sentence of the first quoted comment nails it.
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Posted 10 December 2020 - 02:14 PM

View PostLFC, on 10 December 2020 - 10:59 AM, said:

Nobody plays the victim like a right-wing Christian and Dreher is a professional right-wing Christian victim. In his latest post he is whining, with no hint of irony, how morality clauses are now being placed into employment contracts and that people could get fired for things they do in their personal life. From what he wrote and quoted all you need do is read this utterly clueless paragraph. The blinders are the sized of barn doors. No, I'm afraid that this is not satire.




As I've said before you go to TAC to read Larison and read the comments on Dreher and there are a number of excellent comments to this drivel. Here are a few of my favorites.

I always underestimate the desire for conformity and order, especially the kind of order where people like Dreher call the shots.

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Posted 10 December 2020 - 02:16 PM

View Postgolden_valley, on 10 December 2020 - 02:14 PM, said:

I always underestimate the desire for conformity and order, especially the kind of order where people like Dreher call the shots.

"Freedom for me, but not for thee," amirite?
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Posted 10 December 2020 - 02:22 PM

View PostBact PhD, on 10 December 2020 - 02:16 PM, said:

"Freedom for me, but not for thee," amirite?
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Posted 10 December 2020 - 05:32 PM

View PostBeelzebuddy, on 10 December 2020 - 02:22 PM, said:


A song as old as the hills

“Harper Valley PTA” wasn’t just made up by a songwriter. Catholic League of Decency, ladies’ committees, black listings were all very real and powerful.
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Posted 21 December 2020 - 02:55 PM

Michael Wilkerson has produced an article on TAC that is brimming with the conspiracy of Biden stealing the election. The comments section is fascinating. You have many clear-eye people and you have some absolute frothing nutjobs. Here's a sample of the claptrap Wilkerson is peddling, stuff that is basically much more suited to Newsmax and OAN rather than what TAC used to be. Sad.

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Roughly three-quarters of Trump voters (and 25% of independent voters) believe that the election was systematically and criminally flawed–“stolen” as it was described in one of the polls. Cutting through all of it, the allegations take two forms: 1) traditional political-machine vote-rigging in large cities in battleground states, a long history of which we’ve had in this country, and 2) software- and/or hardware- enabled through the voting machines, a relative novelty for America, but experienced elsewhere around the world in this decade. This group comes to this startling conclusion from the sum total of what appears to them to be overwhelming evidence.

This evidence includes: hundreds of signed affidavits by Democrats, Republicans and Independents alike attesting (under oath and penalty of perjury) to witnessing various frauds; statistical analysis of the voting pattern data in the wee hours showing impossible probabilities; unconstitutional last-minute changing of the rules of the game by certain states (the basis for the Texas plus 18 supporting states suit which SCOTUS ultimately declined to hear, arguing that Texas lacked standing); and potentially damning video evidence such as what was recorded on CCTV after hours in Atlanta and Detroit.

None of this is particularly evident to the casual observer. The large social media platforms and mainstream media are refusing to cover any of it, other than in the most arrogant, mocking and belittling of terms, carefully avoiding the substance of the arguments and instead writing about typos in lawsuits and sweaty hair dye. This is consistent with the strategy employed by these same media outlets in refusing to report on the criminal investigations into the Biden family’s alleged corruption with foreign powers … at least until after the elections.

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Posted 21 December 2020 - 04:21 PM

I like the guy arguing that a 66% turnout is clear evidence of fraud. Montana turnout was 73% and voted for Trump. Look, fraud!





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