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Posted 08 August 2019 - 09:41 AM

Since white nationalism / supremacy has gone mainstream in the Trump administration and much of the Republican Party I think we need a thread in Political that covers what's happening from a political standpoint. First up we find that the White House refused to make domestic terrorism a priority. This should not be a shock. We already know how the GOP reacted when Janet Nepalitano presented a report on what was happening. The GOP is in up to their necks in this and have been since before Trump.

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The White House has ignored requests from the Department of Homeland Security to make surging domestic terrorism, particularly white nationalism, a greater priority.

One administration official told CNN that without the White House’s approval, DHS is behind the curve in terms of resources to fight the growing threat.

President Donald Trump has historically been reluctant to identify white supremacy as the cause of the recent scourge of violence, preferring to fall back on mental health issues.

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 10:37 AM

El Paso in general is not receptive to Trump's photo opp. I wonder why.

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President Donald Trump has trash-talked this city for years.

The last time he was in El Paso, he chanted “murders, murders, murders, killings, murders” about immigrants like those who fill the city. He’s called migrants who come here “dangerous criminals” and accused asylum-seekers who arrive of “invasion.” During his State of the Union address, he said El Paso was “one of our nation’s most dangerous cities” before a border wall was constructed (it wasn’t). He kicked off his presidential campaign by calling Mexicans—like the ones who’ve lived here for generations—“rapists and criminals.”

Now he’s coming to console El Paso after a gunman expressing hatred of Hispanic people allegedly killed 22 people at a Walmart where people from both sides of the border were shopping.

And the city isn’t having it.

“I’m wearing my ‘Fuck Trump’ shirt under my work clothes right now, because fuck that bastard and his racist rhetoric,” said resident David Villanueva. “It just hurts so much.”

The attack cut so deep because it was apparently targeting Hispanics, who make up over 80 percent of the city’s population and have strong roots in Mexico. It’s not unusual for families to be spread across El Paso and Ciudad Juarez, living and working bi-nationally and bi-culturally.


Victims in the hospital were unanimous in rejecting his photo opp.

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None of the eight patients still under hospital care after being shot in an El Paso Walmart last weekend consented to a visit from President Donald Trump on Wednesday. The Washington Post reports that two of the injured victims did return with family members to greet the president. Ryan Mielke, spokesperson for the University Medical Center in El Paso said that the patients were under no obligation to meet the president. “This is a very sensitive time in their lives,” Mielke said. “Some of them said they didn’t want to meet with the president. Some of them didn’t want any visitors.” Mielke did say that before Trump’s visit, many of the hospitalized patients accept visits from local elected officials and Democratic lawmakers.


Once again Trump is trying to get credit while he continues fueling hatred. It's a well established pattern now.
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 10:44 AM

Liz Warren joins in on calling Trump out on his support of white supremacists.

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren accused President Donald Trump of being a white supremacist in an interview with The New York Times on Wednesday, just hours after Beto O’Rourke, her rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, used similar language. She replied, “Yes,” when asked if she thought Trump was a white supremacist. “He has given aid and comfort to white supremacists,” Warren said on the sidelines of a campaign stop in Iowa. “He’s done the wink and a nod. He has talked about white supremacists as fine people. He’s done everything he can to stir up racial conflict and hatred in this country.” The condemnation came after O’Rourke made similar comments to MSNBC. When asked if he thought Trump was a white supremacist, O’Rourke replied, “He is,” adding, “He’s dehumanized or sought to dehumanize those who do not look like or pray like the majority here in this country.”

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 10:45 AM

Trump's rhetoric is now being used as a defense in court.

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The lawyer for a 39-year-old man in Montana who fractured the skull of child for wearing a hat during the national anthem at a rodeo says his client believed he was acting on behalf of President Trump. Curt Brockway, who was charged this week with felony assault on the 13-year-old boy, suffered a traumatic brain injury and was honorably discharged from the U.S. Army over his disability, which his lawyer Lance Jasper said contributed to his actions. “His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished,” Jasper said. “He certainly didn’t understand it was a crime.” Brockway told deputies that he noticed the boy hadn’t removed his hat and confronted him about it, to which the boy responded “fuck you.” Brockway told authorities that he grabbed the boy by the throat, lifted him into the air, and then slammed him onto the ground. The boy was flown to a hospital, where he was diagnosed with a concussion and a fractured skull. Witnesses told reporters that Brockway defended his actions afterward because the boy had been disrespectful. “Trump never necessarily says go hurt somebody, but the message is absolutely clear,” Jasper said. “I am certain of the fact that [Brockway] was doing what he believed he was told to do, essentially, by the president.”

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 12:01 PM

Is this a form of domestic terrorism? ICE agents raid Mississippi work site to arrest 680 people for being undocumented. These people were working in chicken processing plants. The plant owners and managers were not arrested. And some of these people have American born children who will just have to make dinner for themselves tonight. Will those kids end up in foster care? Is this just basic law enforcement or is this done to strike fear in the hearts of undocumented people?

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 01:07 PM

 golden_valley, on 08 August 2019 - 12:01 PM, said:

The plant owners and managers were not arrested.

That says it all.
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 01:42 PM

Ivanka tries to get the mass shooting spotlight off of daddy. As expected she fails spectacularly. What a little twit.

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In the wake of a weekend of back to back mass shootings, Trump turned to Twitter to draw attention to another city – and got her basic facts wrong in the process.

“As we grieve over the evil mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton, let us not overlook that Chicago experienced its deadliest weekend of the year,” Trump tweeted. “With 7 dead and 52 wounded near a playground in the Windy City — and little national outrage or media coverage — we mustn’t become numb to the violence faced by inner city communities every day.”

Trump’s tweet came after John Bash, the U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Texas announced that his office would be treating the shooting in El Paso as a “domestic terrorist case,” noting that the attack appeared to “be designed to intimidate a civilian population, to say the least.” According to writings left online, the 21-year-old gunman traveled nearly 10 hours to the border town of El Paso on a mission to murder Hispanic people in order to provoke political change that would prevent further immigration into the United States. He used language that directly mirrors the anti-immigrant rhetoric spewed by the president.

Based on Ivanka Trump’s tweet, however, it would appear an even bigger mass shooting in a major U.S. metropolis had mysteriously gone unnoticed by the entire country. But, of course, she got her numbers and other details jumbled.


Way to confuse criminal violence with racial hatred. Bonus ignorance points for not realizing (or ignoring) that Chicago asked the Trump administration for help and he and his DOJ blue blew them off.

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During a press conference on Tuesday, Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot called Trump’s tweets “nonsense” and noted that her calls to the White House have gone ignored. Before her recent inauguration as Chicago’s mayor, Lightfoot visited the White House to meet with Ivanka Trump but the budding relationship seems to have already gone cold.

A day before Trump’s tweet, Lightfoot had spoken about the president. “What he’s been doing is blowing every racist, xenophobic dog whistle. When you do that, when you blow that kind of dog whistle, animals come out,” Lightfoot said, calling on Trump to push for gun control legislation to help solve violence in her city.

In response to Lightfoot’s comment, a spokeswoman for Trump said: “Ivanka has appreciated getting to know Mayor Lightfoot, respects her commitment to addressing this issue and looks forward to continuing the conversation around this issue, workforce development and economic opportunity for all.” She continued: “To the extent that her quote was misleading in implying that all of the shooting incidents occurred in one location, it remains important to note that there were 7 deaths and 52 wounded across the city, resulting in one of the deadliest weekends in the city this year. Her point remains the same, we cannot ignore the gun violence that happens in cities across this country on a daily basis.”

Her response reveals how racist the canard of Chicago crime is often invoked by Republicans looking for a convenient deflection. Because saying “inner-city crime” or “inner-city violence” is now widely seen as a dog whistle for “black,” the Trump administration has turned to “Chicago” instead to convey the same sentiments.

President Trump has repeatedly invoked Chicago’s violence himself.

“Seven people shot and killed yesterday in Chicago. What is going on there – totally out of control. Chicago needs help!” Trump tweeted in February of 2017. In June of that year, he tweeted, “Crime and killings in Chicago have reached such epidemic proportions that I am sending in Federal help. 1714 shootings in Chicago this year!”

But as the Chicago police noted at the time, they asked for help from the Trump administration and were ignored.
“We’ve made requests to the White House and the Justice Department for them to support our work — from increasing federal gun prosecution to more FBI, DEA and ATF agents to more funding for mentoring, job training and more,” Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson said in a statement. “The mayor made the request in person as recently as last week and we are hopeful the administration will finally respond.”

Ignorant tweeting seems to be a family pastime.

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 02:16 PM

Trump is once again running cover for white supremacists with his false "antifa"equivalence. Hey douchebag! How many massacres has antifa been involved with?

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As President Donald Trump departed the White House on Wednesday to visit El Paso, Texas and Dayton, Ohio — the sites of two mass shootings over the weekend that left 31 dead — he dodged a question about the rise of white supremacist violence in the United States, instead declaring that he is concerned about “the rise of any group of hate.”

“I am concerned about the rise of any group of hate. I don’t like it,” Trump told reporters on the South Lawn of the White House. “Whether it’s white supremacy, whether it’s any other kind of supremacy. Whether it’s antifa. Whether it’s any group of hate.”

“I am very concerned about it and I’ll do something about it,” he added.

Trump’s refusal to point out the role ideology played in the El Paso massacre echoed his controversial 2017 speech after the deadly white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where a self-professed neo-Nazi killed a counter-protester. The president at the time infamously argued that the group of white supremacist marchers included “some very fine people” and assigned “blame on both sides.”

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 02:51 PM

The former DHS analyst whose report on the rise of white supremacy was destroyed by Republicans for political gain minces no words; you motherf***ers own this.

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The former Homeland Security official who warned against the rising threat of right-wing extremism a decade ago places the blame for recent domestic terror attacks squarely on the Republican Party.

Conservatives reacted with outrage after DHS analyst Daryl Johnson and his team warned in 2009 that military veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan were vulnerable to recruitment by right-wing extremists, who were growing as a domestic terror threat due to the economic recession and the election of Barack Obama, reported The Guardian.

The DHS chief publicly apologized, the analysts who produced the report were reassigned to study Muslim extremism and Johnson was pushed out of the agency a year later — and has watched in horror as his warnings have come true.

“The political fiasco surrounding the report created a chilling effect in the law enforcement and intelligence community,” Johnson said. “It indicated that this topic is radioactive and you better stay away from it. If you pursue it, there’s going to be hell to pay — that was the message.”

Johnson was asked to study the threat in January 2007 by the Capitol Police, who were concerned about threats from white supremacists against Obama, then an Illinois state senator considering a run for president.

“We didn’t see any initially, but we kept it open for the duration of the whole campaign,” Johnson said. “Once Obama won the Democratic nomination, that’s when the threats started. We all knew a black man getting elected president of the United States, and him being a Democrat on top, was the worst nightmare for both anti-government extremists and white supremacists.”

Johnson believes the paper they eventually produced was the best work he’d ever done, and he was extremely disturbed to see Republicans politicize the term “right-wing extremism,” which had been used in counterterrorism for decades.

“I never thought that somebody would equate ‘right-wing extremism’ with the Republican Party or the Tea Party or anything like that,” he said.

The former DHS analyst believes the GOP intentionally twisted his work to win back a congressional majority after Obama’s 2008 election, and because they count on support from those same right-wing extremists.

“They’re the ones who are arming Americans,” Johnson said. “No matter how many times you can try to blame the person for carrying out the act, they still have access to weapons that are meant for war.”

“I also believe, going back to their campaign strategy for the 2010 midterms, there’s blood on their hands,” he added. “They’re definitely fanning the flame and providing the fuel, and it’s all to win elections.”

Looking back at that period, Johnson realizes the Republican Party helped radicalize Americans by politicizing his report and fanning the flames of extremism.

“Their fundraising strategy was to generate fear and paranoia about having a black Democrat in the White House,” he said. “They created all these memes to paint him as a Muslim, not a US citizen. All this crap.”

Johnson said Republicans must call out right-wing extremism instead of blaming domestic terrorism on mental illness, but he said President Donald Trump had made things much worse.

“We didn’t see any initially, but we kept it open for the duration of the whole campaign,” Johnson said. “Once Obama won the Democratic nomination, that’s when the threats started. We all knew a black man getting elected president of the United States, and him being a Democrat on top, was the worst nightmare for both anti-government extremists and white supremacists.”

Johnson believes the paper they eventually produced was the best work he’d ever done, and he was extremely disturbed to see Republicans politicize the term “right-wing extremism,” which had been used in counterterrorism for decades.

“I never thought that somebody would equate ‘right-wing extremism’ with the Republican Party or the Tea Party or anything like that,” he said.

The former DHS analyst believes the GOP intentionally twisted his work to win back a congressional majority after Obama’s 2008 election, and because they count on support from those same right-wing extremists.

“They’re the ones who are arming Americans,” Johnson said. “No matter how many times you can try to blame the person for carrying out the act, they still have access to weapons that are meant for war.”

“I also believe, going back to their campaign strategy for the 2010 midterms, there’s blood on their hands,” he added. “They’re definitely fanning the flame and providing the fuel, and it’s all to win elections.”

Looking back at that period, Johnson realizes the Republican Party helped radicalize Americans by politicizing his report and fanning the flames of extremism.

“Their fundraising strategy was to generate fear and paranoia about having a black Democrat in the White House,” he said. “They created all these memes to paint him as a Muslim, not a US citizen. All this crap.”

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 03:41 PM

Antifa has been the punching bag for Republicans yet I've heard little or nothing about them since Charlottesville and stuff that went on in Berkley over a year ago. Incidentally, a friend who was at one of the Berkley events perceived Antifa as trying to de-escalate things.

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 04:00 PM

One domestic terrorist plot thwarted due to a child pornography investigation.

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Federal agents believe the arrest of a Colorado child pornography suspect may have stopped a domestic terror plot.

Wesley David Gilreath was charged Tuesday with possession of child pornography, but federal authorities said his arrest was also intended to potentially stop a domestic terror attack, reported the Daily Camera.

The 29-year-old Boulder man is suspected of writing an online guide to committing violent hate crimes against refugee centers, synagogues and mosques.

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 01:23 PM

Trump and his minions have been running cover for the domestic terrorists. This is aiding and abetting. At this point those who don't wish to believe that Trump is a white nationalist (Rod Dreher is one) need to explain how he would behave differently if he was.

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The Trump administration has known since at least April that alleged white supremacists were responsible for every single act of race-based domestic terrorism in the U.S. in 2018, yet not only took no action to combat the growing right wing violent extremism, but actually substantially reduced or even eliminated funding and programs that combat white supremacist extremism, violence, and terrorism – and then blocked the data from reaching the hands of Congress.

“Domestic Terrorism in 2018,” a document (embedded below) prepared by the State of New Jersey’s Office of Homeland Security Preparedness, “shows 25 of the 46 individuals allegedly involved in 32 different domestic terrorism incidents were identified as white supremacists,” Yahoo News’ Jana Winter and Hunter Walker report.

That document finds there were “32 domestic terrorist attacks, disrupted plots, threats of violence, and weapons stockpiling by individuals with a radical political or social agenda who lack direction or influence from foreign terrorist organizations in 2018.”

The report was “circulated” throughout the U.S. Dept. of Justice “and around the country in April just as members of the Senate pushed the DOJ to provide them with precise information about the number of white supremacists involved in domestic terrorism.”

The Justice Department, under President Trump’s hand-picked Attorney General Bill Barr, refused to hand over the data or the document to Congress.

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 01:37 PM

Tucker Carlson, white supremacist / domestic terrorist mouthpiece. Of course he'd deny that but then again he lies for a living.

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After several days of controversy over his insistence that white supremacy in America is a hoax, Fox News superstar Tucker Carlson is tired. He announced on Wednesday night that he’d be going fishing for a few days. Fox News insists that this was a scheduled vacation but as CNN’s Oliver Darcy notes, Fox News hosts who start dumpster fires often “take a few days off” when advertisers’ customers feel they’ve gone too far and the boys in the boardroom start to feel too much heat. In the case of Bill O’Reilly, he abruptly went away on “vacation” one day and never returned.

It’s unknown whether Carlson will be back next week. According to the Hollywood Reporter, after he said last December that immigrants made America “dirtier” he lost 26 sponsors. They speculate that he won’t lose his job over this latest controversy because his show now depends upon smaller direct-marketing companies which are unlikely to flee. We’ll know soon enough.

But it’s possible that part of the reason he was sent off to the woods is something that goes beyond his insistence that White Supremacy is a hoax. As much as people are rightly laying responsibility for much of the philosophy and rhetoric that clearly motivated the El Paso killer at the feet of the president, it’s important to remember where Trump gets many of his talking points: Fox News.

Anyone who has tuned into their evening lineup over the past couple of years knows that the language in the shooter’s online screed could have come from the mouths of any number of the network’s stars. But the only one who has been spouting the specific ideological mix that motivated the killer is Tucker Carlson.

Media Matters cataloged some of the xenophobic and racist rhetoric of the most vociferous anti-immigrant pundits on Fox News:

https://youtu.be/YE1q4Ea9b4Y

And USA Today analyzed the president’s speeches since 2017 and found that he has “used the words ‘predator,’ ‘invasion,’ ‘alien,’ ‘killer,’ ‘criminal’ and ‘animal’ at his rallies while discussing immigration more than 500 times. But for all of the degrading language he’s deployed against immigrants and people of color, Trump has failed to adopt a very specific term that seemed defined the thesis of the El Paso shooter’s screed: “replacement.” However, if you watched that video above, you’ll have noticed that it’s used frequently on Fox News, particularly by Carlson.

It stands to reason that Trump wouldn’t have picked that up. It’s much too cerebral for him. After all, he didn’t understand that when the Charlottesville Nazis chanted “Jews will not replace us” they were talking about his own beloved daughter and son-in-law. He has no intellectual understanding of the white supremacist movement. He’s simply an old-school racist without any need for an underlying philosophy to justify it.

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 11:25 AM

Another Trumpy spews white nationalist crap ... and then makes it worse. Of course he thinks he's misunderstood. Anybody still trying to defend this administration as not being white nationalists is an idiot, ignorant, a liar, and/or just kneejerk defends their "team."

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The acting director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services dug himself into another hole on Tuesday evening.

After appearing to rewrite the famous Emma Lazarus poem emblazoned on the Statue of Liberty — “Give me your tired and your poor who can stand on their own two feet. And who will not become a public charge,” he told NPR earlier this week — Ken Cuccinelli told CNN that the poem was actually meant for Europeans.

“That poem was referring back to people coming from Europe where they had class-based societies — where people were considered wretched if they weren’t in the right class,” he said, expounding on the history of the “public charge” rule that the Trump administration wants to reinvigorate.

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 02:54 PM

View PostLFC, on 14 August 2019 - 11:25 AM, said:

Another Trumpy spews white nationalist crap ... and then makes it worse. Of course he thinks he's misunderstood. Anybody still trying to defend this administration as not being white nationalists is an idiot, ignorant, a liar, and/or just kneejerk defends their "team."

Hmmphf...lower class was usually poor no matter what European country one came from. It didn't mean having bad manners.

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 03:00 PM

View PostLFC, on 14 August 2019 - 11:25 AM, said:

Another Trumpy spews white nationalist crap ... and then makes it worse. Of course he thinks he's misunderstood. Anybody still trying to defend this administration as not being white nationalists is an idiot, ignorant, a liar, and/or just kneejerk defends their "team."
And to think, he almost became my governor six years ago.
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Posted 14 August 2019 - 04:59 PM

Despite the report that Republicans attacked (a political attack which I will blame directly for at least some of America's racism fueled massacres) the FBI put the threat of black and animal rights activists above that of white supremacists and other right-wing nutjob groups. OK, maybe there was a kneejerk panic after Ferguson but under Trump, when the data is overwhelming on where the threat is coming from, they still refuse to accept reality.

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The FBI ranked black nationalists and animal rights activists as bigger threats than white supremacists and terror groups like al-Qaida among their official counterterrorism priorities, according to leaked FBI documents obtained by The Young Turks.

The documents show that the FBI’s official Consolidated Strategy Guide, which lists the bureau’s counterterrorism priorities, continues to focus on “black identity extremists,” well after the bureau assured Democrats in Congress that it would stop using the term after a 2017 internal FBI report that included the phrase was published by Foreign Policy.

In a 2018 strategy guide obtained by The Young Turks’ Ken Klippenstein, the FBI not only used the term but referred to “black identity extremists” as a “priority domestic terrorism target.” The documents did not mention any specific attacks, though it did list examples of high-profile white supremacist attacks, which were ranked a lower priority.

In 2019, the FBI did replace the term “black identity extremists” with the term “Racially Motivated Extremism,” according to the fiscal year 2018-20 counterterrorism strategy guides obtained by The Young Turks. Despite the new term, the threat guidance still included “Black Racially Motivated Extremism” in the definition.

“Racially Motivated Extremism … generally includes White Racially Motivated Extremism, previously referred to as White Supremacy Extremism, and Black Racially Motivated Extremism, previously referred to as Black Identity Extremism,” the document said.

In 2020, the FBI changed the term again to “Racial Motivated Violent Extremism” but still included most of the previous definition for “Black Identity Extremist.”

“RMVEs [Racially Motivated Violent Extremists] use force or violence in violation of criminal law in response to perceived racism and injustice in American society, or in an effort to establish a separate black homeland or autonomous black social institutions, communities, or governing organizations within the United States,” the 2020 guide said.

According to previous guides, the FBI believes that the threat originated from the Black Lives Matter movement in response to the 2014 shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri.

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 05:12 PM

Another domestic terrorist with an AR. Bolding of hte note about the Trump banner is mine.

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Hispanic people “are what is wrong with this country,” a man who allegedly threatened to shoot up a Walmart in the Orlando area told a police officer just days after the El Paso shooting massacre left 22 people dead, according to newly surfaced documents on his arrest and online postings.

Richard Dean Clayton, 26, allegedly threatened to pee in his arresting officer’s car until the officer told him he wasn’t Hispanic, according to newly revealed police reports.

Clayton was “very uncooperative and belligerent” while in custody, Winter Park Police Officer Greg Gerardi noted in his report.

Clayton said he “prayed” the Gerardi would get “blown away and killed” on his next call, according to the report. Then, he allegedly threatened to pee in the patrol car.

“Your name is Officer Gerardi? That sounds Hispanic,” Clayton allegedly said. “They come in and are ruining everything,” he added, according to the report.

“While en-route to the jail, Clayton put his handcuffs in the front and began taking his penis out stating, ‘Officer I am going to pee in your car!'” Gerardi wrote. Only after the officer told Clayton “I am not Hispanic” did the threats stop.

“Ok well then I guess I won’t pee in your car then,” Clayton allegedly said.

According to the reports, first surfaced by the journalist Nick Martin on Tuesday, Clayton’s affinity for Nazism and desire to create a white ethnostate had long been evident online.

The police report cites Clayton’s Facebook posts, revealing what’s become a common thread among certain mass shooters and those who threaten mass violence: ultranationalism, racism, and an obsession with guns and violence.

For example, in one picture posted on a Facebook page allegedly controlled by Clayton, as described in a police report, a white male is seen wearing a stars and stripes bandana is holding an AR-15 style rifle and a bottle labeled Knob Creek. There’s a Trump banner on the wall.

Another post, the report says, displays a swastika. Another asks readers to “imagine for a moment that we’ve established out [sic] enthostate, physically removed all the commies and degenerates, and white birthrates are back in the positives. Who would there be left to make fun of?”

“Just packin pistols and beatin monkeys,” one post reads, per the police report. A comment underneath the post reads, “fuck the kyk3s that make the laws these gunmen gotta enforce.” And another post, from February: “Fuck the internet. I’m committing a hate crime irl tonight.”

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 06:01 PM

View PostLFC, on 14 August 2019 - 05:12 PM, said:

Another domestic terrorist with an AR. Bolding of hte note about the Trump banner is mine.

How long can someone like this be put away for making threats? Probably not for very long since he didnt shoot anyone. Yet. And when he is let out, as he will be at some point, I doubt he'll all of a sudden be 'thoughts and prayers' for everyone.
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Posted 14 August 2019 - 07:05 PM

View PostLFC, on 08 August 2019 - 10:37 AM, said:

Once again Trump is trying to get credit while he continues fueling hatred. It's a well established pattern now.

Well if he wants credit I don't think it unreasonable to give him a share of the credit for the body counts. Maybe "in a supporting role."
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