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#1 George Rowell

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 08:31 AM

Wednesday, the President of the United States of America, Donald Trump declared "I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the bikers for Trump - I have the tough people, but they don't play it tough - until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad"

There we have it. If it goes badly for Trump he will deploy his vigilante group 'The Bikers for Trump'. Good to know. Thank you Mr President. It just keeps getting better.

It is not the first mention of the bikers either. In September President Trump told his opponents 'they were lucky that we're peaceful." He added "They travel all over the country -- they've been great." Then again warned "these people are tough, and antifa and all, they'd better hope they stay that way" Once again, thank you Mr President for making that crystal clear. We know what to expect.
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Posted 16 March 2019 - 08:39 AM

After Christchurch, he deleted the tweet. Shows that even he has a sense of what is acceptable. Too bad that was after the fact. It is all out there for everyone to see his true intentions. The man, and his followers, are truly despicable. Ddi you see the veto ceremony? All these uniformed cops and military cheering him on. If they really think like that, we have a major problem indeed.
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Posted 16 March 2019 - 08:43 AM

Yeah, he's getting more and more open about his dictatorial ambitions. Push come to shove, though, I'm not at all sure that the police and military are going to be all that interested in overthrowing the Constitution.

Here's the thing, though: if we do get a coup d'etat, what will come if it fails? Will we pretend it never happened or will we (as happened 160 years ago) put some additional checks in place, or will we just accept that the 1789 Constitution has some structural problems that can't be fixed with Band-Aids?
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Posted 16 March 2019 - 08:49 AM

I have just seen Trumps 'biker' comments. He sure knows how to take the Office of President to new lows.
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Posted 16 March 2019 - 08:51 AM

View PostD. C. Sessions, on 16 March 2019 - 08:43 AM, said:

Yeah, he's getting more and more open about his dictatorial ambitions. Push come to shove, though, I'm not at all sure that the police and military are going to be all that interested in overthrowing the Constitution.

Here's the thing, though: if we do get a coup d'etat, what will come if it fails? Will we pretend it never happened or will we (as happened 160 years ago) put some additional checks in place, or will we just accept that the 1789 Constitution has some structural problems that can't be fixed with Band-Aids?
If Trump orders troops to do his dirty work I have no doubt there will be a mutiny.
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Posted 16 March 2019 - 08:59 AM

View PostTraveler, on 16 March 2019 - 08:39 AM, said:

After Christchurch, he deleted the tweet. Shows that even he has a sense of what is acceptable. Too bad that was after the fact. It is all out there for everyone to see his true intentions. The man, and his followers, are truly despicable. Ddi you see the veto ceremony? All these uniformed cops and military cheering him on. If they really think like that, we have a major problem indeed.
Yes, there could be a problem. Trump is mixing his message and these guys believe Trump supports them, he is THEIR president. He supports white superiority and white power. He rings their bell.
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Posted 16 March 2019 - 09:06 AM

View PostGeorge Rowell, on 16 March 2019 - 08:51 AM, said:

If Trump orders troops to do his dirty work I have no doubt there will be a mutiny.

It's not a mutiny for troops to refuse an illegal order. It's actually what they're required to do, by treaty, oath, and the UCMJ.

I might note that he also does not have direct command of troops but has to go through the chain of command (violating the CoC is another way he can really piss off the military, BTW.) He's already done quite a few things to get on the bad side of the flag ranks, even if it hasn't penetrated to the enlisted. If he gives a flagrantly illegal order I would not be surprised to see the generals send out an order citing the UCMJ, Nuremberg, statute, and their oaths. He might try a Saturday Night Massacre, but he can't promote flags without Congress and there would be a LOT of them to work through, unlike Nixon's handful.
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Posted 16 March 2019 - 09:16 AM

View PostTraveler, on 16 March 2019 - 08:39 AM, said:

After Christchurch, he deleted the tweet. Shows that even he has a sense of what is acceptable. Too bad that was after the fact. It is all out there for everyone to see his true intentions. The man, and his followers, are truly despicable. Ddi you see the veto ceremony? All these uniformed cops and military cheering him on. If they really think like that, we have a major problem indeed.
America has Trump but my country has problems too. The difference is here they do not know it yet. My estimate is in 10-15 years Australia could get nasty. At the moment there is so much wealth here that people just fallen into. The mining and gas booms have funded the coffers and people are complacent. That could all change. When unemployment comes and benefits drop people are going to look for somebody to blame.
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Posted 16 March 2019 - 09:28 AM

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In his chat with the Breitbart News Network, Trump said: "I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad."

Then again, he also has the support of the great majority of African-Americans and Latinx. He has, after all, told us just that.
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Posted 16 March 2019 - 11:06 AM

I looked for another thread to post this (found in non-political), but this is highly correlated with NZ.

Trump also said he had not seen a manifesto, purportedly from an attacker, that named him as an inspiration for white identity ideology.

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In the manifesto, Tarrant posed a series of questions to himself.

“Were/are you a supporter of Donald Trump?” the author of the manifesto wrote.

The reply: “As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policymaker and leader? Dear god no.”

Was this a terrorist attack? “Yes,” he wrote, “it is a terrorist attack.”

“Do you feel any remorse for the attack?”

“No, I only wish I could have killed more invaders, and more traitors as well.”


So that cat is now out of the bag.
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Posted 16 March 2019 - 05:08 PM

View PostTraveler, on 16 March 2019 - 11:06 AM, said:

So that cat is now out of the bag.

Trump can say that he's not a white nationalist all he wants but when they all line up behind you either change your tune a LOT or you accept the branding. Since the only change in his tune is that he keeps pushing the boundaries then we need to make him own it no matter what lies come out of his mouth.
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Posted 16 March 2019 - 05:31 PM

Really can't make Trump own anything; he simply needs to be purged from our culture.





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